mesamed mosvla

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mesamed mosvla
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014 #10 (027), fasi 2 lari
#10 (027) xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
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roman gociriZe:
lia eliava:
`CvenTan dRemde
SenarCunebulia
sabWoTa suk-is
instituti. mgoni, es
aris sircxvili~
safrTxis Semcvelia
erovnuli bankis mier
gatarebuli
monetaruli
RonisZiebebi
patarZlebi,
patimrebi da
socialuri
kinematografi
ekonomika, gv. 14
interviu, gv. 8
1
kultura, gv. 30
mamuka JRenti:
`xelisuflebaSic arian
Zalebi, romlebic
prorusuli arCevanis
SemTxvevaSi, ar
iqnebian winaaRmdegni,
flagmanis rolis
Sesruleba iTavon~
politika, gv. 10
sazogadoebriv-politikuri gazeTi www.premieri.ghn.ge
rogor aSovnina `saqarTvelos
bankma~ vaJa leluaSvilsa da
giorgi feiqriSvils pirveli
milionebi
gverdi 4-5
ratom daibara putinma ruseTSi mcxovrebi qarTvelebi...
ZiriTadi
tendencia
putinis ukrainuli
azarti; ramden
xans ijdeba vano
merabiSvili?
konstantinepolis
saeklesio kreba
da afxazuri
eklesia; vin
ibrZolebs
Tbilisis
merobisTvis?
Rurtis amboxi - giorgi abaSiZe - ruseTi
putinis qarTvelma mstovrebma
saqarTveloSi didZali fuli Camoitanes
da putinis davalebas zedmiwevniT
asruleben, anu sxvadasxva socialuri jgufis
warmomadgenlebs xvdebian da maT
`daverbovkebas~ cdiloben..
ruseTis mTavari mizani TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevebis win, xalxis quCaSi gamoyvanaa. quCaSi
gamoyvanil xalxTan dakavSirebiT, kremls
mware gamocdileba aqvs, nino burjanaZis
saxiT
gverdi 6-7
gverdi 6-7
analitika
analitika
reportaJi
politika
goCa vetriakovi:
oqruaSvilis
`yirims ruseTi
axla ar SeierTebs,
magram kars Rias
datovebs~
mesamed
mosvla
zura odilavaZe:
ra xdeba
okupirebuli
afxazeTis aqeT
da iqiT?!
`W memkvidreoba~,
anu rogor xnavs
rusuli Zala
dasavlur aRmarTs
gverdi 17
interviu
`oZvaled ginirT
afxazeTiq~
gverdi 3
gverdi 18
ekonomika
14-15
kultura
gverdi 12
30-33
sporti
`arsebuli
mdgomareoba
gvkarnaxobs, aRviqvaT
ruseTi, rogorc
Cveni damoukideb
damoukideb-lobis dauZinebeli
mteri!~
gverdi 22
38
putini rom Zalian
Wkviani da cbieri
politikosia, aqedanac
Cans: Tu ukrainam yirimi
formaluradac
dakarga, maSin axal,
`revoluciur~
xelisuflebas
aucileblad mouwevs
pasuxi gasces
ukrainelTa didi
umravlesobis kiTxvas:
`ramdenad arian
swored isini da maTi
`maidani~ pasuxismgebeli
imaze, rom qveyanam
teritoriis Zalze
mniSvnelovani nawili
dakarga, Tanac, dakarga
samudamod?!
gverdi 20-21
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xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
#10 (027)
mivmarTav axalgazrdebs, rac SeiZleba male daemSvidobon
`bios~
`Tu garigebul TamaSebze arsebuli eWvebi dadasturdeba,
umkacresi sanqciebi iqneba~
iusticiis ministri Tea wulukiani narkodamokidebul axalgazrdebs mimarTavs.
rogorc ministrma Jurnalistebs ganucxada, narkodanaSauli is danaSaulia, romelic
pirvel rigSi safrTxis winaSe ayenebs momaval Taobebsa da genofonds.
“Cvens mier inicirebuli kanoni ZalaSi savaraudod, aprilSi Seva da me minda miv-
saqarTvelos fexburTis federaciis generaluri mdivnis gancxadebiT, saeWvo
TamaSebTan dakavSirebiT sff gamoZiebas Caatarebs. amis Sesaxeb rezi arvelaZem “praimtaimis” presklubSi ganacxada.
rogorc sff-s generaluri mdivani ganmartavs, imis gamo, rom Tavis droze Cawyobil
marTo yvela axalgazrdas, ara mxolod biWebs, aramed gogonebs, rom rac SeiZleba
male daemSvidobon im e.w. Cais, bios Tu spaisebs, romlebic maT angrevs, anadgurebs da
wiravs sikvdilisTvis, radgan Zalian male es mkacrad dasjadi iqneba. kanoni mkacrdeba. premier-ministrma miiRo gadawyvetileba, rom sul ramdenime kvira vadrovoT sazogadoebas, es gaiTavisos da es aris swored
evropuli midgoma. me
vemxrobi da Cveni SemoTavazebaa da amas male
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rom Semovides, axali
odenobis cneba, magaliTad, komerciuli odenoba, 10 kilo kanafi iqneba
komerciuli odenoba da
rac ar unda amtkicos
braldebulma, rom is
moxmarebisTvis undoda,
ver iqneba gaziarebuli,
radgan 10 kilo kanafi ar
aris momxmareblis doza.
Cven unda davartyaT
ufro mkacrad iq, sadac arian gamsaReblebi, Semomtanebi, gadamyidvelebi da am qveynidan gamtanebi, radgan saqarTvelos imijis diskreditacias xels uwoyoben.” - aRniSna
ministrma.
TamaSebze federaciam amnistia gamoacxada dasjili pirebis mimarT, dRes rac xdeba,
swored misi gamoZaxilia.
“Cawyobili TamaSebis gamoZieba samarTaldamcavebis prerogativaa, magram sadac rame
amdagvri momxdara, es yovelTvis faqtebze dayrdnobiT da ara eWvebiT. es vlindeba
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ar gvaCvenes, reagireba ar yofila.
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sagamoZiebo
struqturas, maTTan
gvaqvs xelSekrulebac da misi TanamSromloba. Cveni fexburTi ar aris im
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aris, rom viRaca sam
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gaakeTos. Tuki is gundebi, romlebzec saubari midis,
miiReben eqvs qulas da amaSi iqneba safuZvliani eWvi,
bunebrivia, iqneba umkacresi sanqciebi, Tumca Tbilisis “dinamom” rom sionTan eqvsi
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#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
gela kalandaZe
i
nga grigolias
gadacemaSi
irakli
oqruaSvilis
morigi
`sensaciuri
gancxadeba~ (politikaSi
dabrunebis Sesaxeb),
miuxedavad
sensaciurobisa,
moulodneli mainc ar
yofila. es iSviaTi
Tvisebaa _
sensaciuroba
moulodnelobis gareSe
_ da gansakuTrebiT
skandalur subieqtebs
axasiaTebT. maSin,
rodesac adamiani
TviTon aris skandali
TavisTavad! anu
`cocxali skandali~.
aseT SemTxvevaSi xdeba
xolme, rom misi araTu
gancxadeba, gamoCenac ki
ukve skandali da
sensaciaa.
aseve, miSac Tavis droze:
yvela misi CarTva `gamarjvebuli xalxis televiziis~
eTerSi skandali iyo. magram
irakli oqruaSvilTan SedarebiT miSa (miSac ki!) RvTiuri
sasoebiTa da simSvidiT aRsavse umanko bekekaa. ai, daaxloebiT iseTi, mama abraamma
rom Seswira ufals Svilis
nacvlad.
xumroba iqiT iyos da irakli oqruaSvilis mZvinvare
vnebasTan miSac ver mova
marTla da Tu `es~ qarTul
politikaSi realurad dabrunda, `saintereso cxovreba~ mere vnaxoT: yvelaferi
sxva, warsuli Tu gadatanili, mosawyen vodevilad
mogveCveneba.
oqruaSvils erTi Tviseba
aqvs,
romelsac
misi
JamTaaRmwerelni ratomRac
ugulebelyofen da, ufro
metad, daurwyuleblad mZvinvare xasiaTis sxva waxnagebze akeTeben xolme aqcents:
esaa Wkua!
diax, oqruaSvils Wkua ar
aklia. amitomac SeZlo ise
gamomZvraliyo bolo 8 wlis
ganmavlobaSi Tavsdamtydari
faTerakebidan, rom bevri
oqruaSvilis
mesamed mosvla
arc araferi daekarga TviTon. im biznesmenebma ikiTxon, 6 milioni dolari rom
Caricxes biujetSi, raTa 2007
wels cixidan gamoexsnaT,
Torem TviTon iraklis namdvilad ar uWirda parizSi.
man zustad gaTvala, rom
saakaSvils misi cixeSi Casma,
sinamdvileSi, ar awyobda
(Torem 60 milionic ver uSvelida) da Semdegac aTianSi
gaartya, roca ukve `ocneb-
is~ mmarTvelobisas, uxifaTo safrangeTidan pirdapir
gldanis cixeSi dabrunda.
gariska.
seriozulad
gariska. Tumca, gariska
mainc gonivrulad: sworad
gansazRvra, rom misi yofili
kolega-advokati, arCil kbilaSvili, `srokze~ ar gauSvebda erTdroulad ramdenime mizezis gamo da arc,
mTlianobaSi, axal xelisuflebas awyobda eqsprezidentis yvelaze Seurigebeli da
mosisxle mtris cixeSi gamweseba.
* * *
daaxloebiT igive gaTvla
aqvs dResac: xelisufleba
aSkarad (Zalian malaven, ar
imCneven, magram mainc aSkarad!) SeSinebulia saakaSvilis
reanimaciiT, rac ukrainuli
oromtrialis erT-erT ucilobel Sedegad iqca. ar aris
gamoricxuli, miSam da misma
gundma kidev scadon `kudis
moqneva~ da mZlavradac
moiqnion. miT umetes, Tuki
ruseTi yirimSi damarcxda
(amis albaToba arsebobs,
Tundac mcire) da prodasavluri trendi saqarTveloSi
kvlav aqtualuri gaxda. ma-
Sin miSasa da `nacionalTa~
poziciebi SesamCnevad gaZlierdeba da oqruaSvilis
mZvinvare vnebac isev aqtualuri gaxdeba.
mas aqvs mniSvnelovani
resursi: qarizma e.w. `ubralo xalxSi~, romelic mudam
Zalisken miiwevs, rogorc
pepela _ alisken. `oqruaSvili magaria!~ _ xSirad
gaigoneb da ara mxolod
gorSi, Tumca goric Zalian
mniSvnelovania. agvistos
omma iqaur mosaxleobas gansakuTrebuli agresia da pasionaroba SesZina da oqruaSvilis magvar dabadebiT
populists (miSas arc aq
Camouvardeboda, provincieli rom ar iyos, enebi icodes
da odnav meti oratoruli
niWi hqondes), am agresiis
marTva da koncentracia ar
gauWirdeba.
rogor Cans, xsenebul
TvisebaTa kalkulacia mimdinareobda
`ocnebaSi~,
rodesac jer miiRes kanoni,
romliTac
mas SeeZlo
arCevnebSi monawileoba, Semdeg Sesworeba Seitanes
(aSkarad mis sawinaaRmdegod)
da axla, zogierTi simptomiT, Tavidan ixilaven, rogor
daexmaron, raTa mainc dabrundes did politikaSi.
Tumca, oqruaSvilTan
dakavSirebiT, es pirveli
SemTxveva rodia. `meocnebe
xelisufleba~ jer kidev maSin iRebda winaaRmdegobriv
gadawyvetilebebs, rodesac
is parizidan brundeboda: eka
beseliam `politdevnilTa~
siaSi ar Seiyvana (arada, koba
daviTaSvilis winaaRmdegobis
gadalaxvas iolad SeZlebda,
marTla rom moendomebina),
Tumca sxva doneebze, anu bi-
Zina ivaniSvilTan ufro axlos, misi cixeSi Casma mainc
mizanSeuwonlad CaiTvala,
Torem aba, vin daijerebs, rom
`jeoselis~ saqmeSi mTavari
mowme _ dimitri qitoSvili
_ winaswari, umtkicesi garantiebis gareSe Secvlida
Cvenebas? albaT, Zalian gulubryvilo unda iyo, es
daijero. miT umetes, rodesac dazaralebul biznesmens
(visac wili `aaxies~) Tavdapirveli Cveneba ar Seucvlia.
* * *
irakli oqruaSvilma zedmiwevniT icis masis fsiqologia, raki, nacionalTa `svetski elitisgan~ gansxvavebiT,
Tavad misi wiaRidanaa: gana
vin Seaxsenebs monaniebas, an
Jvanias mkvlelobis Sesaxeb
sensaciur gancxadebas? an
3
zRapars `cxinvalis gavliT
saqarTveloSi dabrunebis
Sesaxeb~ 2011 wlis aqciebisas?
aravin! aRaravis axsovs _
darCa mxolod `magaris~ imiji da, yvela sociologiuri
gaTvliT, xval rom gorSi
arCevnebi Catardes, ueWvelad mougebs nebismier
konkurents!
goris meroba ki SesaniSnavi tramplini gaxdeba
Tbilisisken. miT umetes, rom
goreli Zalovnebi aqtiurad
winaurdebodnen dedaqalaqSi
jer kidev im dros, roca
oqruaSvili `cvetSi~ iyo da
bevrma SeinarCuna kidec inercia.
* * *
darwmunebiT SeiZleba iTqvas: Tu irakli oqruaSvili
goris meri gaxda, saqarTvelos politikuri da mediaaqtivobis centri Tbilisidan
da quTaisidan gorSi gadainacvlebs! iseve, rogorc
Tbilisis sakrebulo iqca
mTavar `niusmeikerad~, rodesac iq miSa saakaSvilma dasca banaki.
dRevandel `mosawyen da
uRimRamo~ politikur cxovrebaSi, `axali irakli~ _
`Zveli miSas~ alteregod
iqceva, anu... mtrisas da avisas, aq ambavi datrialdeba
isev!
zogadad, unda iTqvas,
saqarTvelo tyuilad rodi
iTvleba `Wkviani giJebis~
qveynad.
rogorc
Cans,
swored esaa am qveynis bediswera, romelsac mosveneba ar
uweria.
zogjer saSinlad `arapolitkoreqtuli~ azric
gagielvebs: nuTu amas
gulisxmobda is dalocvili
ilia WavWavaZe, roca gveub-
neboda:
`moZraoba
da
moZraobaao...~
mereda,
maincdamainc aseTi subieqtebi
ratom
unda
`gvamoZravebdnen?~ ratom ar SeiZleba cota `dalagebulma~
gvamoZraos dalagebulad?
yvelaze kargad `mZvinvare
iraklis~ icnobs misi yofili
xelqveiTi da yofili maRmerTebeli: sacodavi, gulubryvilo da alal-marTali
goreli biWi, miSa qareli,
romelmac ramdenjerme gamoaqveyna werili oqruaSvilis
sawinaaRmdegod: `mag maniaks
araferi daejereba da
nuravin ahyvebiTo~. rogorc
Cans, parizSi erToblivi emigraciisas `moxarSa~, Tumca
ukve gvian iyo.
kidev bevrisTvis iqneba
`gvian~.
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premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
gega silagava
aradoqsebis
qveyana varT.
imas, rasac aq,
CvenTan moismen
da naxav,
sxvagan
iSviaTad
gadaeyrebi, an Tu SeeCexe
sadme, ara mgonia, aseTi
sisuleliTa da
sibriyviT gakeTebuli
naxo. Tumca imas, rac
qvemoT unda movyve _
sisulelesa da
sibriyvesTan aranairai
kavSiri ar aqvs da
sixarbis klasikuri
gamovnilebaa. yovel
SemTxvevaSi, me ase
davaskveni da sxva
daskvnis gakeTeba
mkiTxvelisTvis
mimindvia.
p
gaxsovT, albaT, 2008 wlamde ra sabanko bumi iyo
saqarTveloSi. gamarjobis
sanacvlod, gaZlevdnen kredits. maSin aravin fiqrobda
imis Sesaxeb, rom male SeiZleboda bevri usaxlkarod darCeniliyo. mTavari iyo, rom
adamianebs hqondaT stimuli
da cdilobdnen, raRac
ekeTebinaT. bankebi ki, ra Tqma
unda, sulac ar iyvnen orientirebulni Cveni Tanamoqalaqeebis keTildReobaze.
maTTvis, pirvel rigSi, mniSvnelovani sakuTari gamorCena da sargebeli iyo. amas
Tundac is garemoeba adasturebs, rom amJamad qarTuli bankebis sacavebSi miliardobiT Warbi Tanxaa da Tavs
aravin iwuxebs kreditis procentis dawevaze. Tumca es
mainc sxva Temaa. visac
bankidan sesxi auRia, yvelam
icis, ra rTuli procedura
unda gaiaros. saxlis SesaZenad sesxi rom aiRo sammagi
qoneba unda gqondes da kabalur xelSekrulebasac
moawero xeli. samomxmareblo sesxis dros, imasac gimowmeben, dReSi ramden kalorias miirTmev da ra haeriT
sunTqav, arafers vambob
Tavxedur moTxovnaze, _ Savi
buRalteriis Canawerebi
gvaCveneT. imis CamoTvla, ra
Seuacxyofas
gayeneben
datreningebuli, sakuTar
Tavze didi warmodgenis
mqone gogo-biWebi, Sors
wagviyvans. magram amaTac ra
qnan, zemdgomebi ase iTxoven.
yvelaze
rTuli
mainc
bankidan miwis uzrunvelyofiT misaRebi kreditia. miT
ufro, Tu miwa minimum
SemoRobili ar gaqvs da arc
saxnav saTesad iyeneb. mokled, zed araferi ar aris,
ar sargeblob da mxolod
dokumenti gikavia xelSi, rom
xar
mesakuTre.
Tumca
sirTule am saqmeSi SesaZloa,
rigiTi adamianisTvis dadges
da ara Tavad bankis an misi
Svilobili kompaniisTvis. magaliTisTvis,
rogor
rogor aSovnina
`saqarTvelos
bankma~ vaJa
leluaSvilsa
da giorgi
feiqriSvils
pirveli milionebi
fiqrobT, vis ekuTvnis is miwebi, romelic qarTveli
iunkrebis sisxliT aris morwyuli _ tabaxmela, wavkisi da
misi Semogareni? logikurad
unda vicodeT kidec, vis,
radganac, sxva Tu araferi,
weliwadSi erTxel Cveni patriotuli pozis warmosaCenad da alali Tu yalbi
paTetikis demonstrirebisTvis, prezidentidan dawyebuli rigiTi moqalaqiT dasrulebuli,
daRupul
iunkrebs miagebs pativs. sityva rom ar gamigrZeldes _
`saqarTvelos banks~.
mokled, ambavi aseTia, erT
mSvenier dRes banks moqalaqeebi d.o da g.T miadgnen, romlebmac sesxis
aReba moisurves. bankma
uzrunvelsayofad tabaxmelis miwebi Caido, 2,99 ha
saerTo farTiT, 120 TviT,
wliuri saprocento ganakveTi 5-20%-iT da arc
meti, arc naklebi, 1 500 000
aSS dolarad. miTxariT
axla, sam heqtar miwaSi,
romelzec dResac araferi
dgas, vin mogcemT amden
Tanxas? mere opoTekarebma
sesxi ver dafares, arc
ucdiaT da forsirebuli
procedurebis gavlis Semdeg es miwebi aRsrulebaze
gaitanes da isev `saqarTvelos bankma~ iyida. miwebis
SeZenisadmi `ltolva~ banks,
etyoba, paralelur reJimSic
hqonda, radgan am periodisTvis bankis Svilobil kompanias ss `sb uZravi qoneba~
sakmaod bevr miwas flobda
wavkissa da tabaxmelaSi. zogs
ipoTekiT
datvirTuls,
zogsac ipoTekis gareSe. magaliTisTvis bankma 2008 wlis
4 ivliss wavkisSi mTel rig
miwebs, romlis mesakuTre misi
Svilobili ss `sb uZravi
qoneba~ iyo, opoTeka saerTod mouxsna. sainteresoa,
albaT, ratom? 2008 wlis 16
ivliss gaformda xelSekruleba `sb uZrav qonebasa~
da ss `kaukazus enerji end
infrasTraqCas~
Soris.
gaiTvaliswineT, rom ss
`kaukazus enerji end infrasTraqCa~ im periodisTvis
`saqarTvelos bankis~ Svilo-
#10 (027)
bil kompaniad iTvleboda.
marTalia, amJamad sajaro
reestris amonawerSi verc ki
ipovi, vin arian saaqcio sazogadoebis damfuZneblebi
da vin ra wils flobs, magram im droisTvis rom kompanias `saqarTvelos banki~
gankargavda, yvela dainteresebuli pirisTvis cnobilia.
hoda, erTma Svilobilma mere
Svilobilisgan isesxa. msesxebelma ki Zmas Tu das,
rogorc geneboT, sesxis
uzrunvelsayofad wavkisi
tabaxmelis miwebi Caudo.
garigebis Tanxam ki _ sami
milioni dolari, vada _ 6
Tve da Tan 24%-ad. ar dagaviwydeT, es is periodia,
rodesac bankma ar icis, sakuTari fuli sad waiRos da
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis
`oranji baraTiT~ gaubedurebis gamalebuli aqcia
mimdinareobs. bevri rom ar
gavagrZelo da Tavic ar
mogawyinoT, ss `sb uZravi
qonebam~ da `saqbankma~ am miwebiT imdeni manipulacia
akeTes, dokumentebSi gavixlarTeT. xan sesxi gasca
`saqbankma~ Tavis Svilobilze
miwebis `garantiiT~, xan
datvirTva ipoTekiT, xanac
mouxsna es ipoTeka. Semdeg
adga da 2010 wels Tavad iyida Tavisi qoneba. Tumca am
yvelaferSi
saintereso
ufro sxva ram aris. Tavis
droze visgan SeiZina es miwebi `saqarTvelos bankma~. anu
realurad vin idga am garigebebis ukan da vin iyo miwebis mflobeli? rogorc
`premiers~ sakiTxSi Caxedulma adamianma ganucxada, miwis
pirvelma mflobelebma arc
ki ician, rom miwebi maT saxelze iyo gaformebuli da es
sakmaod rTuli kombinacia
kud-is ufrosis yofilma
moadgilem vaJa leluaSvilma da amJamindelma parlamentarma
giorgi
(Temur)
feiqriSvilma aawyves. swored
aqedan iRebs dasabams maTi
milionebi. `saqarTvelos
banki~ Tavidan aiZules, am
TamaSSi CarTuliyo da mere
ukve rac akeTes, eg maTi
saqmea~, _ ambobs informirebuli piri da dasZens, _ mTavaria, rom swored am periodSi gamdidrdnen leluaSvili da feiqriSvili, romlebmac qoneba adamianebis
ubedurebaze daagroves da
axla qveynis farglebs gareTac aqvT TavianTi kapitalis mniSvnelovani nawili.
axla sxva mimarTulebiTac
gavixedoT, ramdeni adamiani
gegulebaT iseTi, vinc
Tbilisis SemogarenSi, saagarako zolSi kuTvnil miwaze
uars ityvis da usasyidlod
saxelmwifos gadascems? rom
ar dagabnioT, konkretul
adgilebsac getyviT _
Tbilisis zRvis mimdebared,
bagebSi satyeo ubanSi, wyneTis satyeo teritoriaze,
gardabanSi _ bagebis satyeo
teritoriaze, varkeTilSi,
aRmaSeneblis
xeivanSi,
gldanSi, kojorSi, kojori _
kekeTSi, kojori _ kveseTSi,
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
SindisSi, gardabani _ foniWalaSi, tabaxmelaSi, gardabani _ martyofSi, gardabani
_ axal samgorSi da a.S. ramdeni iqneba aseTi adamianebis
ricxvi, romelsac saxelmwifom usasyidlod gadasca
#1-is mixedviT da gasceT
amonawerebi. werils 18 furcelic daurTes da aTasamde
adamianis mier `mitovebuli~
miwa saxelmwifos efeSqaSa.
Semdegi faqti, ratom Sei-
uris ufrosis saxlze: `s. kojorSi kerZo sakuTrebaSi
maqvs miwis nakeTi, romlis
sakadastro kodia 81.01.06.330.
aRniSnul miwis nakveTs ver
viyeneb, ris gamoc gadavwyvite misi mitoveba~. jer
erTi, cixeSi myofi kaci
rogor gamoiyenebda miwis nakveTs, magram cixes rom didi
muceli aqvs, yvelam icis da
am adamians survilic ki ar
gauCnda, rom Tundac minimalur fasad gaeyida es miwis nakveTi da sakuTari
ojaxisTvis an sakuTari
TavisTvis moexmarebina. sxva
Tu araferi, cixidan rom
gamovidoda, minimaluri kapitali xom daxvdeboda gareT? ara, adga da miatova.
zemonaxsenebi, saqmeSi Caxeduli adamianis ganmartebiT,
5
bi
`monawileobdnen~
arCevnebSi,
miveCvieT
micvalebulebis saxelebiT
manipulirebas. magram Cemi
arc sajaro samsaxurSi saqmianobis gamocdileba da arc
flobs. aseve, imas, rom TiTqmis aravis, feiqriSvil-leluaSvilis gareSe, miwis gasxvisebis ufleba ar aqvs.
miwa da am adamianebma aseve
usasyidlod daubrunes saxelmwifos? daujerebelia,
magram ramdenime aseuli. magram mTavari am yvelaferSi
is aris, rom saxelmwifo am
miwebs `mitovebuls~ uwodebs
da upatronod miiCnevs.
gjeraT Tqven, rom romelime
WkuaTmyofeli adamiani ase
naCuqar qonebas miatovebs da
Tan sad? kidev erTxel vimeoreb, Tbilisis SemogarenSi
da metwilad saagarako zolSi? magram mTavaria, xelisuflebas `sjeroda~ amis da
2011 wlis 13 maiss ekonomikisa
da mdgradi ganviTarebis ministris pirvelma moadgilem
abesalom kekeliam mimarTa
kidec sajaro reestris
saagentos Tbilisis saregistracio samsaxurs weriliT,
romelSic aRniSnulia: gTxovT, daaregistriroT saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi mitovebuli uZravi qoneba danarTi
mediaSi moRvaweobis periodSi amgvari ram arsad Semxvedria. anu ginaxavT mosiarule micvalebuli? Tan
ukve dasaflavebuli rom
aris, magram dadis, saqmeebs
agvarebs da arc meti, arc
Zleboda mietovebinaT ase
masobrivad adamianebs sakuTari qoneba? da ra SuaSia am
yvelaferTan kud-is yofili
ufrosi vaJa leluaSvili?
rogorc `premiers~ sakiTxSi
Caxedulma adamianma ganucxada, am miwebis umetesoba
swored rom leluaSvilisa
da amJamindeli parlamentaris giorgi (Temur) feiqriSvilis sakuTrebaa. miwebi sxvadasxva adamianebze iyo
gaformebuli ise, rom amis
Sesaxeb mflobelebmac ki
araferi
icodnen.
Tumca rodesac wina
xelisuflebisTvis am
duetis TavzexelaRebuli
saqmianobis
Sesaxeb gaxda cnobili,
miwebis dabrunebis
pirobac daido, miT
ufro, rom sakmaod
bevri miwa `mitovebuli~ aRmoCnda, an
kidev miatovebines.
rogor? ai, ase, magaliTad. me-8 sapyrobileSi myofi msjavrdadebuli g.S. 2010 wlis 13
ivliss wers gancxadebas sajaro reestris
saregistracio samsax-
cixeSi myofTagan aseTi
gancxadebis miReba leluaSvilisTvis Zalian advili
iyo. iseve, rogorc gareT
myofTa daSineba cixeSi CasmiT, Tu qonebas ar miatovebdnen. am saxelmwifoebrivi qmedebis sanacvlod,
feiqriSvilsa da leluaSvils sxva miwebi SerCaT, _
acxadebs igive persona.
Semdegi faqti _ Cven
miveCvieT, rom gardacvlile-
naklebi sajaro reestrSi
dokumentebic daaqvs. ki, xdeba Turme ase _ 2006 wels 29
dekembers tabaxmelis sakrebulos gamgeobis salikvidacio komisiis Tavmjdomare k.
kakaCia gascems cnobas,
romelSic sityvasityviT weria: cnoba eZleva aw gardacvlil roman gagniZes
masze, rom miwis mesakuTreTa
da siebis monacemebiT
sakuTrebaSi sofel wavkisSi,
gardabnis r-ni, dReis mdgo-
mareobiT iricxeba 1,25 ha
sakarmidamo miwis nakveTi
1998 wlidan. aqedan 0,17 ha
miwis farTze dgas sacxovrebeli saxli sakuTrebis
uflebiT. cnoba eZleva sajaro reestrSi warsadgenad~.
mokled,
gasces
cnoba
micvalebulze, romelsac is
unda waeRo sajaro reestrSi. mTavari aq mainc is aris,
rom gardacvlils cnoba
sWirdeba dakanonebisTvis,
xolo cocxali uars ambobs
sakuTar qonebaze. ar aris es
paradoqsi? ise nu ifiqrebT,
rom tabaxmelaSi cnobebs mxolod micvalebulebze gascemdnen, sulac ara, magaliTisTvis, imave 2006 wlis
8 Tebervals analogiuri
cnoba kidev erT moqalaqeze
gaica, magram mas xels kakaCia ki ara, amJamindeli deputati feiqriSvili awers.
wina werilebSi sakmaod
didi adgili davuTmeT batoni feiqriSvilis mier sakuTar naTesavebsa da axloblebze miwebis gaformebis
faqtebs da imasac, rom sakmaod bevrma gardabnis raionSi dRemde ar icis, ra qonebas
da mainc, morali aq sxva
rameSia. gasagebia, rom banks
aqvs Tavisi biznesambicebi.
isic gasagebia, rom banksac
adamianebi marTaven, romelTa dayolieba, daSantaJeba
da gnebavT wixlqveS gagdebac SesaZlebelia. magram
iunkrebis sisxliT morwyuli
miwa rom SemogatenaT leluaSvilma da feiqriSvilma
saqarTvelos wamyvan banks da
axla Tqveni kapitalizaciis
Semadgenel nawils warmoad-
gens es adgilebi, Tqven
rogor apirebT mis gamoyenebas? es gasagebia, rom am
miwebze didi fulebi akeTebineT dasaxelebul or personas da Tqvenc araferi
dagikliaT, iqneb premiebic
gamoiwereT istoriuli miwebis dasakuTrebisTvis. magram
Semdeg ra xdeba? anu ras
apirebT? imis garantia mainc
mieciT saqarTvelos mosaxleobas,
rom
minimum
ruseTidan Camosul investors ar mihyidiT samomavlod am miwebs. imis garantia
mainc mogveciT, rom leluaSvili-feiqriSvilis sixarbe
da vnebebi, romlis dakmayofilebasac Tqven daudeT
saTave, sabolood ar gaxdeba Cveni pirtitvela istoriuli winaprebis saflavSi
CafurTxebis tolfasi.
6
premieri
axali ambebi
gigi ugulavas
sasamarTlo sxdoma
17 martamde
gadaido
`Tbilisis ganviTarebis
fondTan” dakavSirebiT gigi
ugulavas da masTan erTad
braldebulebis winasasamarTlo sxdoma 17 marts
gagrZeldeba.
procesis
gadadebis mizezi mosamarTlisa da calkeuli advokatebis moucleloba gaxda. maTi ganmartebiT, maT
sxva procesebi hqondaT CaniSnuli da winasasamarTlo
sxdoma am mizeziT gadaido.
procesis dasrulebis
Semdeg gigi ugulavam ganacxada, rom misTvis kvlav
gaurkeveli rCeba saqmeze
prokuraturis mxridan misi
da misi Svilis satelefono
saubris darTva. ugulavam
aRniSna, rom miuxedavad
prokuroris pasuxisa, misi,
rogorc mamis SekiTxva pasuxgaucemeli darCa.
Tavdacvis ministri
oficialuri
vizitiT italiaSi
gaemgzavra
saqarTvelos Tavdacvis
ministri irakli alasania
oficialuri vizitiT italiaSi gaemgzavra. es aris
pirveli oficialuri Sexvedra saqarTvelosa da italiis Tavdacvis uwyebebis xelmZRvanelebs Soris. irakli
alasania italiel kolegas
roberta pinotis saqarTvelos Tavdacvis sferoSi
ganxorcielebul
reformebs gaacnobs.
Tavdacvis saministros
informaciiT, saubari ISAFis misiaSi qarTuli samxedro
qvedanayofebis monawileobas da avRaneTis saerTaSoriso operaciis samomavlo gegmebsac Seexeba.
ministrebi Tavdacvis sferoSi saqarTvelosa da
italias Soris ormxrivi
TanamSromlobis sakiTxebsac
Seexebian.
vizitis
farglebSi,
saqarTvelos Tavdacvis ministri italiis sahaero
Zalebis frenebis centrsac
estumreba da misi muSaobis
Sesaxeb prezentacias moismens.
saqarTvelos Tavdacvis
ministris ordRiani viziti
oficialurad xval dasruldeba.
axali ambebi
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
#10 (027)
ratom daemTxva droSi erTmaneTs
Rurtis amboxi da giorgi abaSiZis
saqarTveloSi dabruneba?
rusuli specsamsaxurebi
salome zurabiSvilisa da
gia maisaSvilis `daverbovkebas~ cdiloben?
informacia, romelic
`premiers~ eqskluziurad
moawodes, eqspertebs
jer ar gauanalizebiaT.
arada, informacia,
marTlac, sagangaSoa,
Tumca movlenebis
ganviTarebas
qronologiurad
mivyveT:
aleqsi nozaZe
i
mis Sesaxeb, ra
gavlenas
moaxdens
yirimis
rusuli
okupacia
saqarTveloze, bevrs
msjeloben. eqspertebi
da analitikosebi
movlenebis ganviTarebis
ramdenime scenarze
saubroben da
xelisuflebas urCeven,
nebismieri
provokaciisTvis mzad
iyos, Tumca is
ramdenime kvris win socialur qselSi gavrcelda
cnoba, rom ruseTSi mcxovrebma vinme mixeil xubutiam,
romelic imTaviTve putinis
qveSevrdomia, mZime seniT daavadebul qarTvel gogonas
mkurnalobisTvis soliduri
Tanxa Cauricxa. socialuri
qselis qarTvel momxmarebel-
Ta nawili okupantebis
ndobiT aRWurvil xubutias
qeba-didebas asxamda da lamis mesiadac naTlavda.
paralelurad, cnobili
gaxda, rom aslan abaSiZis vaJi,
giorgi abaSiZe, romelsac e.w.
aWaris revoluciamde baTumis meris posti ekava, megobrebis daJinebuli moTxovniT,
saqarTveloSi dabrunda.
giorgi abaSiZem Tbilisis
aeroportSi ganacxada, rom
saqarTveloSi aT dRe darCeboda da xazi imasac gausva,
rom am etapze politikuri
interesebi ar aqvs.
kidev erTi mniSvnelovani
informacia, romelic bolo
dros mediis yuradRebis centrSia: xulos raionis sofel
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
Rurtis mosaxleoba hesis
mSeneblobas aprotestebs da
xmaurian aqciebs marTavs...
`premieris~ konfidentis
TqmiT, yvelaferi zemoTqmuli erTmaneTTan kavSirSia.
metic, wyaro ambobs, rom `megobrebi~, viszec aqcenti
giorgi abaSiZem Tbilisis
aeroportSi gaakeTa, arc
meti, arc naklebi, vladimer
vladimeris Ze putinia!
`yirimis
movlenebis
paralelurad,
putinma
ruseTSi mcxovrebi qarTvelebi TavisTan ixmo da, praqtikulad, agina, aRar vapireb,
Tqvenze fuli davxarjo,
saswrafod saqarTveloSi wadiT da Zlieri prorusuli
partia SeqmniT, Torem yvelafers, rac TqvenTvis
gamikeTebia, cxviridan Zmrad
gadenTo. qarTvelebi mamamarCenals usityvod daemorCilnen da saqarTveloSi wamovidnen~, _ ambobs `premieris~
konfidenti, romelic uSiSroebis samsaxuris specifikaSi gadasarevad erkveva.
konfidentis informaciiTve, putinis qarTvelma
mstovrebma saqarTveloSi
didZali fuli Camoitanes da
putinis davalebas zedmiwevniT asruleben, anu sxvadasxva socialuri jgufis
warmomadgenlebs xvdebian da
maT `daverbovkebas~ cdiloben. paralelurad, putinis mstovrebi urTierTobis
damyarebas xelisuflebis
calkeul warmomadgenlebTanac gegmaven da, rogorc
`premieris~ wyaro ambobs, esec
putinis gegmis nawilia.
`mstovrebs, radac unda
daujdeT, `ocnebis~ romelime
warmomadgenels, gansakuTrebiT, mas, romelsac rusuli
begraundi ar aqvs, unda Sexvdnen da xeli CamoarTvan, Tan
es Sexvedra aucileblad mediiT unda gaSuqdes. am `gaSuqebis~ mizani erTaderTia _
dasavleTs
SekiTxvebi
gauCndes, ra saerTo aqvs `ocnebas~, magaliTad, xubutiasTan~, _ ambobs wyaro, romlis
versiiTac, es scenari kremlSi premier irakli RaribaSvilis aSS-Si vizitisa da barak
obamasTan Sexvedris mere
amuSavda.
mainc, vin arian putinis
mstovrebi? _ am SekiTxvaze
`premieris~ wyaro mianiSnebs
mixeil xubutiaze, aleqsandre
ebraliZeze, mama-Svil aba-
SiZeebsa da vinme xomerikze.
amasTanave, laparakia maT
adgilobriv iseT Tanamoazreebze,
magaliTad,
rogoric Jurnalisti valeri
kvaracxeliaa.
`premieris~ wyaros monacemebiTve, zemoxsenebuli adamianebis adgilobrivi Semsruleblebi konkretul biznesmenebTan midian da biznespartniorobas sTavazoben. erTi SexedviT, biznespartniorobaSi cudi
araferia, magram ZaRlis
Tavi swored aqaa damarxuli
_ Tu biznesmenebi, romlebic
2012 wlis pirveli oqtombris
saparlamento arCevebis Semdeg arcTu karg mdgomareobaSi aRmoCndnen, cdunebas
ver gauZleben da putinis
fuls aiReben, maSin kremlis
mizani Sesrulebuli iqneba,
anu putins qarTveli mewarmeebi yurebiT eyoleba
daWerili da rasac unda, imas
gakeTebinebs, Tumca `premieris~ wyaros TqmiT, `biznesdaverbovkeba~ arcTu warmatebiT midis da konkretul
biznesmenebsac asaxelebs,
romlebmac putinis qarTveli
mstovrebi sakuTari ofisebidan sul kinwiskvriT gayares (`premieri~ eTikuri mosazrebiT, am biznesmenTa vinaobis gasajaroebisgan Tavs
ikavebs).
rac Seexeba zemoxsenebul
xulos raionis sofel Rurtas, Rurtis movlenebamde
qarTulma mediam gaavrcela
informacia, rom sarfis sabaJoze specsamsaxurisa da
policiis warmomadgenlebi
iyvnen mobilizebulni. iTqva
isic, rom TurqeTis mxridan
saqarTvelos sazRvari SesaZloa, aslan abaSiZis dacvis
yofil ufross, vinme `qelfeTas~ gadmoekveTa. `premieris~
wyaros TqmiT, sofel Rurtis
movlenebi swored `qelfeTas~
mieraa organizebuli da farTomasStabiani destabili-
ambobs, situacia feTqebadsaSiSia. misive ganmartebiT, kargi iqneba, Tu qarTuli specsamsaxurebi saqarTveloSi
moRvawe iseTi rusuli ko-
mpaniebis saqmianobiT dainteresdebian, romlebic e.w.
komunalur da sayofacxovrebo bazarze arian gamagrebulni. `premieris~ konfidenti erT-erT rusul kompa-
axali politikuri Zala iseTi segmentisgan Seqmnan, magaliTad, rogoric veteranebi
arian.
ratom keTdeba aqcenti
maincdamainc zurabiSvilsa da
maisaSvilze? _ `premieris~ informators Tu daejereba, am
ori personis garda, qarTul
politikur bazarze, principSi, ar arsebobs politsubieqti, romelic e.w. rusuli warsulisgan Tavisufalia.
sxvaTa Soris, Tavis droze,
gaero-Si
moRavweobisas
salome
zurabiSvils
lavrovTan kargi urTierToba hqonia, magram, rogorc
`premieris~ konfidenti mianiSnebs, zurabiSvils lavrovi
garkveuli kompromatebiT
hyavs gamoWerili da swored
amiT aixsneba, rom sagareo
saqmeTa
ministrobisas
zurabiSvilma
lavrovi
saqarTvelodan rusuli jaris
gayvanaze
umtkivneulod
daiTanxma. ise, wyaro ambobs,
rom `ocnebis~ xelisuflebam
seriozuli Secdoma dauSva,
roca zurabiSvili sagareo
saqmeTa ministrad ar daniSna.
`premieris~
wyaros
dakvirvebiT, ruseTis mTavari
mizani TviTmmarTvelobis
7
axali ambebi
68 wlis qalis
gaupatiurebis
mcdelobis
braldebiT 21 wlis
biWi daakaves
kaxeTis sainformacio
centris informaciiT, yvarlis raionis sofel sabueSi,
21 wlis biWi 68 wlis qalis
gaupatiurebis mcdelobis
braldebiT
daakaves.
rogorc kaxeTis sainformacio centrs Ss saministroSi ganucxades, winaaRmdegobis gawevisas biWma qals civi
iaraRiT ramdenime Wriloba
miayena, Semdeg ki miimala.
„1993 wels dabadebuli mamakaci gaupatiurebis mizniT
Tavs daesxa 1946 wels dabadebul Tanasoflel qalbatons. qalma winaaRmdegoba gauwia, ra drosac mamakacma civi iaraRiT ramdenime msubuqi Wriloba miayena. man ganzraxvis sisruleSi moyvana ver SeZlo
da miimala. samarTaldamcavebma mamakaci ramdenime
saaTSi
imave
sofelSi
daakaves”, - ganucxada kaxeTis sainformacio centrs
Sss-s sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis samsaxuris TanamSromelma Sorena jaxuam.
misive TqmiT, dakavebuli
Cadenil danaSauls aRiarebs.
Sss-s informaciiT, gamoZieba ssk-is 19 - 137-e muxlis
pirveli nawiliT mimdinareobs, rac gaupatiurebis
mcdelobas gulisxmobs.
Sss-m
narkodanaSaulisTvis
erTi piri daakava
zaciis agorebas isaxavs
miznad. sagulisxmoa, rom Rurtis amboxi da giorgi abaSiZis saqarTveloSi dabruneba droSi erTmaneTs daemTxva...
ratom aZlevs xelisufleba
putinis
qarTvel
mstovrebs saqarTveloSi Semosvlis uflebas, es calke
saubris
Temaa,
magram,
rogorc `premieris~ wyaro
nias xels adebs da acxadebs,
rom is, praqtikulad, ruseTis
dazvervis
Stabia
saqarTveloSi!
`msoflios nebismieri qveynis specsamsaxuri adamianis
gadabirebas sami motiviT
axdens _ kompromatebis,
ideur-patriotuli da finansuri anazRaurebis safuZvelze. saqarTveloSi moRvawe
ramdenime kompaniis daxmarebiT, ruseTis specsamsaxurebs
saqarTveloSi nebismier moqalaqeze sruli dosie aqvs,
anu icis misi finansuri Semosavali, sad, visTan erTad cxovrobs, rodis ixdis gadasaxadebs da ase Semdeg, es ki,
praqtikulad, operatiuli
dakvirvebis baraTia~, _ ambobs
`premieris~ konfidenti.
misive TqmiT, putinisTvis
amJamad yvelaze saintereso
ori qarTveli politikosia.
Sesabamisad, vladimeroviCis
qarTveli mstovrebis erTerTi mTavari mizani, Turme,
isaa, rom rogorme salome
zurabiSvilisa da gia maisaSvilis garemocvaSi SeaRwion
da Tu es ar gamouvidaT, maSin
arCevebis win, xalxis quCaSi
gamoyvanaa. quCaSi gamoyvanil
xalxTan dakavSirebiT, kremls
mware gamocdileba aqvs, nino
burjanaZis saxiT. sxvaTa Soris,
putins kategoriulad uTqvams, rom burjanaZes aRar
gaekareba...
vin gaxdeba vovas axali
burjanaZe? _ amas dro
gaarkvevs. ise, msurveli, albaT, bevri ki ara, Zalian bevria. bolos da bolos, fuli
jojoxeTsac anaTebs!
P.S. ramdenime welia,
saqarTveloSi aleqsandre
ebraliZis e.w. fondi funqcionirebs, romelic sxvadasxva sferoSi moRvawe cnobil da
warmatebul qarTvelebs soliduri premiebiT ajildoebs.
ebraliZe Tavs iwonebs, rom
putinTan megobrobs. cnobili
qarTvelebi okupanti putinis
megobrisgan jildoebs siamovnebiT iReben! `premieris~ informaciiT, erTaderTi, vinc
ramdenime wlis winaT ebraliZis jildoze uari ganacxada, saxalxo poeti jansuR
Carkviania!
Sss-s centraluri kriminaluri policiis departamentis pirveli mTavari sammarTvelos TanamSromlebma,
operatiuli informaciis
safuZvelze Catarebuli
RonisZiebebis Sedegad, 1963
wels dabadebuli varuJan s.
gansakuTrebiT didi odenobiT narkotikuli saSualeb-
is ukanono SeZena-Senaxvis
braldebiT
TbilisSi
daakaves.
samarTaldamcvelebma
dakavebulis piradi Cxrekisas 16 abi „subuteqsi” amoiRes, romelic eqspertizis
daskvniT 0,1277 gr buprenorfins Seicavs.
braldebuli Cadenil
danaSauls aRiarebs.
gamoZieba gansakuTrebiT
didi odenobiT narkotikuli saSualebis ukanono SeZena-Senaxvis faqtze mimdinareobs (saqarTvelos ssk-is 260e muxlis me-3 nawilis „a” qvepunqtiT). gamoZiebas Sss-s
centraluri kriminaluri
policiis departamenti
awarmoebs.
axali ambebi
8 premieri
`CvenTan dRemde SenarCunebulia sabWoTa
suk-is instituti. mgoni, es aris sircxvili~
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
#10 (027)
`sanam me erovnuli bankis
prezidenti viyavi, CemTan
`odeeri~ ar yofila~
`rogorc Cans, salome
zurabiSvilis zedmetad
eSinodaT, kaxa lomaias
zedmetad endobodnen da roman
gociriZe zedmetad umarTavi
iyo~
`korufciis winaaRmdeg brZolis
meqanizmi dRevandelma
xelisuflebam unda Seqmnas~
xaTuna xatiaSvili
raerTgvarovani
gamoxmaureba
mohyva
parlamentis
safinanso _
sabiujeto
komitetis
iniciativis gaxmaurebas,
finansuri
monitoringis
samsaxuris erovnuli
bankidan gamoyofasa da
finansTa saministros
daqvemdebarebaSi
gadasvlasTan
dakavSirebiT.
a
aRniSnuli iniciativa
`ukanono Semosavlis legalizaciis aRkveTis Sesaxeb~
kanonSi Sesabamisi cvlilebebis Setanas iTvaliswinebs.
cvlilebebis samuSao varianti Sesabamis uwyebebsa da
eqspertebs gansaxilvelad
ukve gadaegzavnaT. am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT nagatiuri
pozicia gamoxata erovnuli
bankis rogorc moqmedma, ise
yofilma prezidentma roman
gociriZem. is, Teoriul
donzec ki, safrTxes xedavs
pirovnebebis xarjebisa da
Semosavlebis dRemde arsebuli konfidencialurobis
darRvevis kuTxiT. aRniSnuli Temis konteqstSi erovnu-
li bankis yofilma prezidentma metad saWirboroto
sakiTxi wamoswia, romelic
mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi
Cumi ganxilvis sagania, magram
ratomRac sajarod dRemde
aravis usaubria. saqme exeba,
e.w `odeeris~ instituts,
romelsac sxvadasxva dros
momxdari araerTi skandaluri ambavi ukavSirdeba.
maT Soris, erT-erTi yvelaze
gaxmaurebuli saqme iyo dapirispireba `odeersa~ da satyeo departamentis yofil
xelmZRvanels biZina giorgo-
de daxurul TemasTan dakavSirebiT,
`premieri~ ekonomikur
sakiTxTa eqsperts,
saqarTvelos
ekonomikuri
ganviTarebis centris
Tavmjdomare roman
gociriZes esaubra.
_ iqneb, detalurad
agvixsnaT ra aris
`odeeri~?
_ `odeeri~ aris Jargoni,
romelic warmodgeba rusuli sityvisgan da niSnavs sa-
(asrulebs StatiT gaTvaliswinebul Tavis saqmes am organizaciaSi da amave dros
aris gaSifruli `dambezRebeli~). Znelia, gadaamowmo, ra
saxis informacias agzavnis
`centrSi~, misi moqmedeba
mkveTrad subieqturia da
Seicavs SantaJis elementebs.
es gaxlavT sabWoTa suk-is
oficialuri instituti da
hqonda ormagi statusi, piri
iyo suk-is oficeri da
amavdroulad muSaobda saxelmwifo dawesebulebaSi
raime Tanamdebobaze. es Tan-
nebismieri saStato erTeuli.
es iyo mxolod avtoritaruli qveynebisTvis damaxasiaTebeli maxinji instituti,
romelsac araviTari saerTo
demokratiul normebTan ara
aqvs. dRes is aRarsad arsebobs, garda yofili sabWoTa
kavSiris ramdenime respublikisa. SemorCenilia ruseTSi, ukrainaSi, belorusSi, Sua
aziaSi. es aris policiur
kontrolze damyarebuli
sistemis nawili, romelic
Tavisi bunebiT ewinaaRmdegeba Ria Sida uwyebriv da sazogadoebriv kontrolze
dafuZnebul meqanizmebs.
_ ratom aris es sakiTxi
TqvenTvis ase nacnobi?
bians Soris, romelic am ukanasknelis germaniaSi emigraciiT dasrulda. ra aris
`odeeri~ da ratom aris misi
gauqmeba aucilebeli? dRem-
gangebo davalebis oficris
Canergvas ama Tu im saxelmwifo dawesebulebaSi ise, rom
is xdeba am dawesebulebis
oficialuri TanamSromeli
amdeboba SeiZleba yofiliyo
an Tavad dawesebulebis xelmZRvanelis moadgileoba, an
romelime departamentis
ufrosoba, an mrCeveli, an
_ pirvelad am problemas
erovnuli bankis prezidentobisas Sevejaxe, Tumca, am
simaxinjis
arseboba,
saqarTvelos damoukideblobis aRdgenidan dRemde grZeldeba. 1992 wels, rodesac
viyavi vice-premieri, vidre
ekonomikuri reformebis
koncefcias SevimuSavebdi da
ganxorcielebas daviwyebdi,
pirveli Cemi nabiji oTxi
ramis gauqmeba iyo: e.w. `obexeesi~, romelic aseve rusuli
sityvis qarTuli Jargonia,
arsebobda policiaSi da,
faqtobrivad, iyo sazogadoebis, biznesis sabWoTa
teroris meqanizmi; meore _
saxalxo kontroli, romelsac hqonda uzarmazari funqciebi da romlis sarevizio
saqmianobis msxverpli SeiZleba yofiliyo nebismieri
adamiani Tu organizacia nebismieri motiviT. mesame _
finansTa saministrosTan arsebuli sarevizio komisia,
romelsac uSualo Sexeba
hqonda sameurneo subieqtebTan finansuri kontrolis kuTxiT da Tavisi formiT represiuli instruments
warmoadgenda; meoTxe _
`odeeri~. pirveli sami instituti erTdroulad gavauqme.
amas didi winaaRmdegoba mohyva, radgan maSin prezidenti eduard SevardnaZe iyo da
im mTavrobis 90% partiuli
biurokratiiT iyo dakompleqtebuli. imis miuxedavad, rom maSin radikaluri
cvlilebebis Sedegad movida
xelisufleba, gvegona, marTvis sadaves xelSi erovnuli Zalebi aiRebdnen, magram
saxelmwifo gadatrialebis
Semdeg, sinamdvileSi partiuli nomenklatura moajda
saqarTvelos. Zalian didi
brZolis gadatana momixda
maSin uamravi mxridan da amitom `odeeris~ gauqmeba momavlisTvis gadavdeT. im
dros uSiSroebis ministri
iyo irakli baTiaSvili. sul
ramdenime adamiani viyaviT
erovnuli moZraobidan. radgan or frontze midioda
brZola, me da irakli baTiaSvilma CavTvaleT, rom Zveli
Zalovani struqturebis reformisa da masSi Semavali
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
struqturebis gauqmebis
fonze, erTbaSad meore
frontis gaxsna `odeeris~
gauqmebis kuTxiT im momentSi
swori ar iqneboda da gadavwyviteT, mis gauqmebaze ramdenime Tvis Semdeg gvefiqra.
im dros qveyanaSi samoqalaqo
omi iyo, omi iyo afxazeTSi,
cxinvalis regionSi, dasavleT saqarTveloSi gatacebuli hyavdaT vice-premieri
sandro kavsaZe, Ss maSindeli
ministri roman gvencaZec ki
gatacebuli hyavda maSindel
SeiaraRebul opozicias.
yovelmxriv absurdul viTarebaSi, cota ar iyos, romantikulad gamoiyureboda
Zalovani struqturis erTerTi `Tvalisa da yuris~ institutis moSla sxvadasxva
regionul Tu centralur
dawesebulebebSi. amis miuxedavad, Cemi da irakli baTiaSvilis pozicia principuli iyo, rom es simaxinje unda
dasrulebuliyo. saamisod,
Sesaferis moments veZebdiT.
mere moxda ise, rom eduard
SevardnaZis imdroindel xelisuflebas ver Sevegue, gansakuTrebiT fulad-sakredito politikis nawilSi,
romelmac did inflacias
daudo safuZveli da Tanamdebobidan wavedi. ramdenime
TveSi irakli baTiaSvilic
iZulebuli gaxda, wamosuliyo da `odeeris~ instituti im momentSi ase gadarCa. mas Semdeg 22-ze meti weli
gavida da am drois ganmavlobaSi saqarTvelos marTvis
sistemaSi, rogorc SevardnaZis, aseve mixeil saakaSvilis
struqturebis `Tvali da
yuri~ Canergili sazogadoebaSi. yvela demokratiul sazogadoebaSi aseTi tipis kontroli xdeba kanonisa da
Sida kontrolis meSveobiT.
Tuki raime darRveva xdeba,
es Cveulebrivi procesia
sasamarTlo, an aRmasrulebeli xelisuflebis urTierTobebSi. iseTi dawesebuleba,
rogoric aris finansuri
monitoringis samsaxuri da
sxva, romelic yvela qveyanaSi arsebobs, akontrolebs
fizikuri da iuridiuli
pirebis finansuri saxsrebis
moZraobas mxolod terorizmis dafinansebis, narkotikebis, iaraRiT vaWrobis, an
Savi fulis gaTeTrebis konteqstSi. danarCeni aravis
ainteresebs, adamiani ras
xarjavs, ratom xarjavs, ras
iZens, an ratom iZens, saidan
miiRo fuli, Tuki misi warmoSobis wyaro aris legaluri. rac Seexeba raime danaSaulis prevencias, saxelmwifo uwyebaSi korufciis arsebobas, an sxva formas, ra
Tqma unda, amisTvis arsebobs
sxvadasxva tipis, maT Soris
antikorufciuli meqanizmebi. rac yvelaze sainteresoa,
`odeeri~ SevardnaZis periodSi arasdros yofila
policiis
interesebis
gamtarebeli,
`odeeri~
yovelTvis emsaxureboda, im
uwyebis xelmZRvanelobas, sadac is iyo meorad samsaxurSi. is xels afarebda danaSauls, radgan ZiriTadi misi
interesi, maT Soris, finansuri, kmayofildeboda ara
gauCaliCebda, Tu finansTa
saministroSi iyo _ sabiujeto interesebs daukmayofilebda, Tu kontrolis
plataSi iyo, maSin mas im
darRvevebisgan daicavda,
romelic Zalovan uwyebebSi
TavisTavad
arsebobda.
miznebisTvis. saxelmwifo uwyebaSi is uzrunvelyofda
ara antikorufciul qmedebas, aramed xelisuflebisadmi politikuri keTilganwyobis SenarCunebas. mas SeeZlo,
SerCeviTi principiT emoqmeda da, rogorc wesi, misi amo-
`odeeri~ am SemTxvevaSi
garkveulad fari iyo Semowmebis procesSi gamovlenili
danaSaulebis dasafarad. SevardnaZis dros, yvelaze
metad kontrolis palatis
eSinodaT, is imdenad Zlieri
iyo, rom uklebliv yvela
uwyebis Semowmebisas iRebda
qrTams. rogori ucnauric
ar unda iyos, Sinagan saqmeTa
saministros Semowmebisas,
romlisac, wesiT, unda SinebodaT, ar daeWiraT, e.w.
qmedeba maSin xdeboda, Tu
politikurad xelisuflebisadmi araloialuri iyavi. ase
vTqvaT: vicav Cemebs da vsji
g a n s x v a v e b u l a d
moazrovneebs. ase rom, am
models ufro metad sajaro
moxeleebis politikuri
loialurobis SenarCunebis
funqcia hqonda, vidre danaSaulis aRkveTis, an antikorufciuli prevenciis.
prezidentobis dros, arsebobda da dRemde arsebobs es
instituti, romelic Tavisi
bunebiT aris policiur kontrolze
damyarebuli
meqanizmi.
policiidan miRebuli xelfasiT, aramed, `saodeerod~
mivlinebuli uwyebidan.
`stavka~ kontrolis palatas
am saministrodanac ki mohqonda.
_ rogorc vxvdebi, ori
batonis msaxuri
yovelTvis emsaxureboda
im batons, vinc mets
gadauxdida?
_ `nacionaluri
moZraobis~
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis
ZiriTadi slogani
saxelmwifo
struqturebSi arsebuli
korufciis damarcxeba
iyo. sainteresoa, ratom
SeinarCuna mixeil
saakaSvilis
xelisuflebam es e.w.
instituti?
_ ras niSnavs es?
_ es imas niSnavs, rom qveyanaSi yvelaferi, maT Soris,
erovnuli banki, saministroebi Tu sxva uwyebebi, unda
akontrolos policiam. arada, yvela demokratiul sazogadoebaSi, piriqiT, policia, rogorc SeiaraRebuli
Zalovani gansakuTrebuli
uflebebiT aRWurvili organo, kontrolis qveS Tavad
unda iyos. xumrobiT imasac
vityodi, rom, Tu `odeers~
sadme raime gamarTleba aqvs,
is unda iyos sazogadoebis
`Tvali da yuri~ Canergili
Zalovan struqturebSi da
ara piriqiT, Zalovani
_ ki, geTanxmebiT. policieli ise gulubryvilo ar
iyo, ar scodnoda, rom
`odeeri~ ar iyo dainteresebuli konkretul uwyebaSi
darRvevis gamovleniT. TiTqmis ar yofila SemTxveva, rom
`odeers~ Tundac erTi korufciuli faqti gamoevlina im periodSi. anu `odeeris~
saqmianoba mimarTuli iyo korufciis xelSewyobisa da korufciis mfarvelobisken.
amis sanacvlod, `odeeris~
meSveobiT Zalovnebi saqmeebs
agvarebdnen. Tu bankSi iyo
`odeeri~, is kreditebs
_ me mainc mgonia, rom ZiriTadi tendenciiT, `odeeri~
mainc ixreba im uwyebis interesebis dasacavad, romelSic is msaxurobs, es mixeil
saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSic
SenarCunda, Tumca, ar vambob,
rom amas korufciuli forma hqonda. meore mxriv, `odeeris~ amoqmedeba yovelTvis
SeiZleboda politikuri
_ finansuri
monitoringis
samsaxuris
erovnuli bankis
daqvemdebarebaSi
gadasvla rodis da ra
mizniT moxda?
_ rac Seexeba erovnul
banks, iq mudam iyo `odeeri~.
me rom 2005 welSi prezidentis Tanamdebobaze mivedi, is
adgilze damxvda. axalgazrda kaci ki iyo, magram pensiaze gasvla vurCie. Cemma
aseTma gadawyvetilebam Semdeg seriozuli konfliqti
gamoiwvia Zalovan saministrosTan. `odeers~ ori
daniSvna sWirdeboda, pirs
Sss niSnavs Tavis `odeerad~
da meore Tanamdeboba unda
gamouZebnos konkretuli uwyebis Tavmjdomarem. axali
`odeeri~ rom daniSna Sss-m,
erovnul bankSi me unda dameniSna igive piri erT-erTi
departamentis ufrosad da
es ar gavakeTe. sanam me
erovnuli bankis prezidenti
viyavi, CemTan `odeeri~ ar
yofila.
_ `nacionaluri
moZraobis~
xelisuflebis pirobebSi
Tqven gamonaklisi
iyaviT, vinc aseTi
principuli aRmoCnda?
_ saqarTveloSi aseTi uwyeba sul sami iyo: sagareo
saqmeTa saministro (rogorc
Cans, salome zurabiSvilis
zedmetad eSinodaT), ganaTlebis
saministro
(rogorc Cans, kaxa lomaias
zedmetad endobodnen) da
erovnuli banki, (rogorc
Cans, roman gociriZe zedmetad umarTavi iyo). me ar
vici, aris Tu ara dRes
`odeeri~ am or saministroSi, an erovnul bankSi, magram
cudi is aris, rom ramdeni
xelisufleba Seicvala, ramdens aqvs demokratiulobis
pretenzia da demokratiuli qveynebisTvis damaxasiaTebeli kontrolis formebis nacvlad, CvenTan dRemde SenarCunebulia sabWoTa
suk-is instituti. mgoni, es
aris sircxvili. korufcia
iseTi saSineli senia, sakmarisia, odnav modunde, is momentalurad gaCndeba sazogadoebaSi ise, rom verc
mivxvdebiT.
cnobil
moazrovnes aqvs naTqvami,
rom Tavisufleba nel-nela
ikargeba. raRac procesebi
SeiZleba wavides nel-nela
da uceb, aRmoCndes, rom isev
Zvel periodSi varT. korufciis winaaRmdeg brZolis
meqanizmi dRevandelma xelisuflebam unda Seqmnas da
es meqanizmi mravalnairia.
aseve, arsebobs uamravi
gamocdileba, rac ufro
efeqturi
iqneba
Cveni
sakadro, Tu mmarTvelobiTi
tradiciidan gamomdinare, is
unda Seiqmnas. korufciis
winaaRmdeg brZolis garda,
saxelmwifo dawesebulebis
raRac formiT kontrolis
mizans ver vxedav. Cven iseTi
saxelmwifo ara varT, rom
samrewvelo, an raime gansakuTrebuli saxelmwifoebrivi saidumlos gacemis
problema iyos. (amis dacva
sxva meqanizmebiT unda xdebodes).
saerTod,
saqarTveloSi saxelmwifo
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saidumlos cneba gaabsoluturebuli ar aris. imdenad
informirebulia yvela yvelaferSi. ar vici, es cudia
Tu kargi, magram Cvenze gamWvirvale procesebi, mgoni,
arsad ar mimdinareobs. yvelaferi viciT meore dResve.
es SeiZleba cudi iyos usafrTxoebis kuTxiT da Zalian
kargi iyos demokratiis
TvalsazrisiT. policiuri
`odeeris~ sistema niSnavs
imas, rom parlamenti da
politikuri Zalebi, romlebic arian xelisuflebis
wyaros _ xalxis nebis gamomxatvelni,
akompleqteben
mTavrobas (axali konstituciiT es funqcia mniSvnelovnad gazrdilia), faqtobrivad, am mTavrobis kontrolSi Zalauflebas uTmoben policias, konspiraciulTan axlo `odeerul~
meqanizmebs.. aseTi viTareba
politikuri kontrolis elementebsac Seicavs, riTac
asustebs parlamentis rolsa
da gavlenas sazogadoebaSi
(aq ar vgulisxmob imas, rom
`odeeri~ parlamentSicaa.
vgulisxmob mTavrobis struqturebze arasaparlamento,
paraleluri kontrolis arsebobas). es faqti lakmusis
qaRaldis msgavsad avlens
saqarTveloSi politikuri
sistemis xarvezebs da es
xarvezi unda gamoswordes.
_ visi iniciativiT unda
moxdes am sakiTxis
inicireba?
_ parlamentis Tavdacvisa
da uSiSroebis komitetma
unda ganixilos es sakiTxi da
unda gaauqmebinos mTavrobas.
amas kanoni ar sWirdeba.
`odeeri~ aris mTavrobis Sida
uwyebrivi normatiuli aqtiT
Seqmnili instituti, romlis
gauqmebasac mxolod politikuri neba unda. jer kidev
2006 wels, `memarjveneebis~
liderma daviT gamyreliZem
dasva parlamentSi sakiTxi
`odeeris~ institutis gauqmebis Sesaxeb, magram mxardaWera
ver moipova. saparlamento
opoziciac grZnobs, rom ara
aqvs moraluri ufleba am
Temis wamowevis, radgan wina
xelisuflebac aqtiurad iyenebda mas. mTavari mamoZravebeli Zala sazogadoeba,
arasamTavrobo seqtori,
eqspertebi unda iyvnen. es
Tema ukanono mosmenebis sakiTxTan unda iyos Sewyvilebuli. opoziciis mxridan Secdomebis aRiareba, an umravlesobis mxridan mTavrobis
araswori nabijebis koreqtireba,
amomrCevlis
TvalSic momgebiani iqneba.
Tumca, yvelafris keTeba
amomrCevelze
sworebiT
swori ar aris. momavlis xelisufleba aris is, romelsac SeuZlia viwropragmatul
interesze maRla dadgoma.
aqvs Tu ara parlaments
namdvili wona, es gamoCndeba
finansuri monitoringis samsaxuris gadaqvemdebarebaze
uaris TqmiT da e.w. `odeeris~
maxinji gadmonaSTis gauqmebiT.
10 premieri
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#10 (027)
`xelisuflebaSic arian Zalebi, romlebic
prorusuli arCevanis SemTxvevaSi, ar iqnebian
winaaRmdegni, flagmanis rolis Sesruleba iTavon~
`CvenTan ZiriTadad
mxolod devnilebs an iq
naomar gmirebsa da maTi
ojaxis wevrebs stkivaT
afxazeTi da samaCablo~
goCa mircxulava
p
remieris~
kiTxvebs
diplomatma,
saqarTvelos
evropul
faseulobaTa
institutis
TanadamfuZnebelma
mamuka JRentma upasuxa.
_ mogesalmebiT, saubari
erTi mniSvnelovani
sakiTxiT daviwyoT _
xSirad vismenT
sayvedurebs, rom media
da calkeuli institutebi
ruseTis wisqvilze
asxamen wyals. Tumca
pirdapir arc erTi
mediasaSualeba ar wers,
rom ruseTs unda
SevuerTdeT, davemonoT
da ase Semdeg. Zalian
iSviaTad SeiZleba
SevxvdeT aseTi survilis
mqone samoqalaqo
institutebsac. maSin ra
ganapirobebs am
sayvedurebs? ra
realuri faqtebis
meSveobis keTdeba aseTi
daskvnebi?
_ Tu ar CavTvliT ramdenime marginalur mediastruqturas, Ria prorusul agitacias saqarTveloSi, mgoni,
aravin eweva. is, razec zemoxsenebul kiTxvaSia saubari,
ufro sxva samwuxaro faqtorebiTaa ganpirobebuli.
ar minda sakuTari eris
`rac gadavitaneT da rasac
dRemde vitanT, araa
sakmarisi, davinaxoT, rom
dResac ki ukrainaze bevrad
gamwvavebul saomar viTarebaSi
vimyofebiT?!~
mamuka JRenti:
`ar aris gamoricxuli, mexuTe kolonis saqmianobam
ufro konkretuli da xelSesaxebi Sedegebi gamoiRos~
lad viRebT sxvis warmatebas
da sakmaod advilad _ sxvis
ubedurebas. es `sxva~ rom
marTla sxva iyos, imdenad
problematuri ar iqneboda.
samwuxaroa, magram faqtia,
rom ise, rogorc azerbaijanels stkiva mTiani yarabaxi,
rogorc kviprosels _ CrdiloeTi kviprosi an Tundac
serbs _ kosovo da metohia,
kargad vicnob ra moldovas,
aq specialurad ar momyavs
dnestrispireTis magaliTi _
sakuTar ojaxSi ar
Semovardebian, sanam
Cemi sakuTari ojaxis
wevrebs ar miayeneben
Seuracxyofas, sanam Cemi
sakuTari
sapirfareSodan ar
moiparavs rusi
saldaTi unitazs, es
yvelaferi mxolod
cincxlad mosmenilze
nemsis gakeTebis
tolfasi an sufraze
fistebi~,
romlebic
gvafrTxilebdnen da gvmoZRvravdnen, rom aRniSnuliT ruseTs gavaRizianebT
da miviRebT uaryofiT Sedegebs.
`
nuTu, is, ra Sedegic
dRes gvaqvs, ar
metyvelebs ukve
gaRizianebul ruseTze
da nuTu is, rom Cveni
qveynis 20%-ze meti
okupirebulia da Cveni
mosaxleobis sakmaod
seriozul nawils
warTmeuli aqvs
sakuTari miwa, wyali da
kera, rom araferi
vTqva im Seuracxyofaze,
rac gadavitaneT da
rasac dRemde vitanT,
araa sakmarisi, rom
davinaxoT, rom dResac
ki ukrainaze bevrad
gamwvavebul saomar
viTarebaSi
vimyofebiT?!
`
arasamarTliani kritika. Cven
gvaqvs Cveni plusebi da aseve,
gagvaCnia minusebic, iseve
rogorc yvela ers dedamiwis zurgze. Cven arc yvelaze
saukeTesoni varT da arc
aravisze uaresni. Tumca Cven,
samwuxarod, gvaxasiaTebs
zedmeti individualizmi,
rac xSir SemTxvevaSi egoizmSi gadaizrdeba xolme. Cven,
qarTvelebi, sakmaod rTu-
`
CvenTan ZiriTadad
mxolod devnilebs an
iq naomar gmirebsa da
maTi ojaxis wevrebs
stkivaT afxazeTi da
samaCablo. amas sufraze
Sesmuli
sadRegrZeloebis
statistikuri
monacemebiT ar vaskvni.
CvenTan, sanam `Cems~
kacisTvis cremlis
momdeni sadRegrZelos
warmoTqmis sababia.
`
mtkiva, magram faqtia, rom,
rodesac gaJRerda rekomendacia qveynis umaRles xelisufalTa ukrainaSi vizitis
Sesaxeb _ mimdinare movlenebis fonze da ukraineli xalxis mxardasaWerad _ umal
gamoCndnen `frTxili paci-
_ mas Semdeg, rac
evrokavSirTan
asocirebis
xelSekrulebis
parafireba movaxdineT,
yvela saubrobda, rom
agvistomde periodi
saqarTvelosTvis
sakmaod daZabuli
iqneboda. rogorc
ityvian, xiluli
daZabuloba ukrainis
procesebma gadaavada,
Tumca ramdeni xniT, es
ucnobia. amavdroulad,
araerTi wyaro
saubrobs, rom ruseTma
saqarTvelos gamalebuli
`humanitaruli da
ekonomikuri~ eqspansia
daiwyo. ramdenad
TvalSisacemia es faqti.
TqvenTvis ra aris
cnobili amis Sesaxeb da
ratom airCia kremlma es
gza?
_
kremlis
mxridan
saqarTveloze zewola ar
Semcirebula bolo 20 wlis
ganmavlobaSi. aRniSnuli zewola pirdapirproporciuli
iyo imisa, Tu ra viTareba iyo
saqarTveloSi.
zewola
izrdeboda,
rodesac
saqarTvelo TvalSisacemad
Zlierdeboda (2008 weli), an
maSin, rodesac saqarTvelo
uaxlovdeboda raime konkretul mizans _ stambulis
euTo-s samiti da xelSekruleba wina saukunis miwuruls da asocirebis SeTanxmebis xelmoweris moaxloeba ukve 21-e saukuneSi.
dRes, miuxedavad imisa, rom
TviT saqarTvelos xelisufleba akninebs saqarTvelos
arsebul Tu SesaZlo potencials _ magaliTad, xelisuflebis Teza, rom saqarTvelos ar gaaCnia ambicia, iyos
Tundac regionuli lideri
_ Cvens partniorebTan erTad, SevediT im stadiaSi,
rodesac saubari midis asocirebis SeTanxmebis xelmoweraze. ar aris gamoricxuli
Semdgomi xelSesaxebi progresi saqarTvelosa da natos Soris urTierTobebSic.
Sesabamisad, ruseTis mxridanac gaizarda zewola _
mavTulxlarTebis agebis
gaormagebuli
tempebi,
saqarTvelo-ruseTis
`
sazRvris gadmoweva da a.S.
ukrainis movlenebma,
sadac ruseTma fsoni
dado ianukoviCze,
magram ukrainelma
xalxma damagnitebul
zeroze ar dausva
burTi putins,
garkveulwilad aarida
an gadauvada
saqarTvelosa da
moldovas respublikas
ruseTis forsirebuli
Semoteva.
`
Tumca, kremli mis `dainteresebas~ am ori saxelmwifos mimarT ver daiviwyebs da
maSin, rodesac ukrainasTan
uwevs misi ZiriTadi nou-haus
gamoyeneba _ samxedro Zala,
SantaJi, buldozeruli diplomatia _
`
saqarTvelosa da
moldovas wilad ergo
e.w. rusuli `soft-power~-is
(rbili Zala. _ avt.)
ukeT gacnoba.
`
_ Cveni sazogadoebis
erTi nawili acxadebs,
rom verafers cuds ver
xedavs ruseTidan
`gamogzavnili~
qarTvelebis mier
qarTuli biznesiT
dainteresebaSi, qarTul
ekonomikaSi SesaZlo
investirebaSi da
calkeuli personebisTvis
`xelis gamarTvaSi~.
SesaZloa, amaSi cudi arc
araferi ar aris, magram
sazogadoebis es nawili
ar svams kiTxvas _ aqvT
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
ki am adamianebs imdeni
kapitali, rom is
qarTul ekonomikaSi
daabandon da realurad
visi fuliT `brundebian~
samSobloSi. Tqven
rogor uyurebT am
sakiTxs?
_ TavisTavad saqarTvelos
ekonomikaSi ucxouri, Tundac es rusuli iyos, investiciebis Semodineba cudi
namdvilad
araa.
iseve
rogorc aranairad araa
cudi is, rom saqarTveloSi
warmoebulma garkveulma
produqtebma pirdapiri gziT
SeaRwia rusul bazarze. Tumca, aris konkretuli saSiSroebac. udavoa, rom saSiSia
qarTuli ekonomikis rusul
bazarze damokidebulad qceva da rusuli bazris gaxsniT
dakmayofileba. ruseTi msoflioSi yvelaze arasando da
araprognozirebadi
biznespartnioria da aramc da
aramc ar unda davuSvaT is,
rom erT mSvenier dRes isev
Caketilma rusulma bazarma
Cveni qveynis isedac dasustebul ekonomikas fataluri
dartyma miayenos. Sesabamisad, igive SeiZleba iTqvas
rusuli kapitalisa da investiciebis
Semodinebaze
saqarTveloSi.
`
droTa ganmavlobaSi
ar aris
gamoricxuli, mexuTe
kolonis saqmianobam
ufro konkretuli da
xelSesaxebi Sedegebi
gamoiRos. miT umetes,
Tu gaviTvaliswinebT
evropuli kursis,
Tundac deklarirebis
doneze, momxre
gadawyvetilebis miRebis
procesSi invalidoba,
koordinaciis
ararseboba an Tundac
Seferxebuli
efeqturoba,
gansxvavebuli azrisa Tu
konstruqciuli
kritikisadmi uaRresad
antagonisturi
damokidebuleba iseve
sazianoa
qveynisTvis?
_ dRidan dRevandeli
mmarTveli Zalebis xelisuflebaSi mosvlisa, vacxadebdi, rom xelisuflebas aqvs
imis ufleba, rom scados esa
Tu is varianti ruseTTan
urTierTobis dalagebisa. miuxedavad imisa, rom skeptikurad viyavi ganwyobili
aseTi mcdelobis Sedegisadmi, dResac mjera, rom
mmarTvel Zalebs aRniSnuli
hqonda wina xelisuflebasac.
Tumca, wina xelisuflebam
moaxerxa an mas mouwia droulad imis realurad aRqma,
rom putinis ruseTTan e.w.
win-win game elementaruli
abstraqciaa. dRevandel xelisufleba Tu droze moaxerxebs im realobis aRiarebas, romelic darwmunebuli
var, ukve mSvenivrad aqvs
gaTviTcnobierebuli da
gaTavisebuli, ukeTesi iqneba
`
_ rogor fiqrobT,
romelia qveyanaSi
yvelaze mZlavri
instituti, romelsac
aSkarad rusuli
Seferiloba aqvs?
_ romelime calke aRebul
instituts
mkveTrad
gamoxatul rusul Seferilobas ver davwameb. meore
mxriv,
saqarTveloSi
yovelTvis iyo da dRes gansakuTrebiT aqtiuria e.w. mexuTe kolona. am mexuTe kolonis polkovnikebi Tu
praporSikebi sxvadasxva
raodenobiTa da gavleniT
arian
warmodgenilni
saqarTvelos sxvadasxva institutebSi. miuxedavad imisa, rom dReis mdgomareobiT
gadaWarbebuli iqneboda
saubari imaze, rom maT gaaCniaT gadamwyveti berketebi,
unda gaviTvaliswinoT, rom
araadekvaturi da
mliqvnelobiTi
politikis
ganxorcieleba, Tu imis
magivrad, rom
gamoviyenoT dRes
ukrainis xarjze
Seqmnili perspeqtivebi,
gavagrZelebT araTu
umoqmedobas, aramed
ganzrax mcdelobas
saqarTvelo-ruseTis
omis Sedegebis sakiTxis
saerTaSoriso
politikuri dRis
wesrigidan gasaqrobad,
Sedegebi gveqneba
savalalo.
`
_ im pirobebSi, Tu
ruseTma SeZlo, Tundac
mciredi, magram
xelSesaxebi
`humanitaruli da
ekonomikuri~ anklavebis
Seqmna, ra iqneba misi
mxridan Semdegi nabiji
da risTvis unda
vemzadoT? modiT,
SesaZlo variantebic
ganvixiloT, ra Sedegi
SeiZleba dadges am
eqspansiiT da realurad
rogori iqneba
zemoqmedebis formebi,
ruseTis miznebidan
gamomdinare?
`
Tu aRniSnul
ekomonikur eqspansias
ruseTis mxridan
CvenTan davaxvedreT
uaRresad dasustebuli
saxelmwifo institutebi,
araprofesionalizmisa
Tu gadawyvetilebebis
miRebis uunaroebis
gamo Sesustebuli
makontrolebeli, maT
Soris sazedamxedvelo,
aparati, gaugebrobaSi
myofi qarTuli
kapitali da a.S., am
SemTxvevaSi qarTulad
SefuTuli rusuli
kapitalis mozRvaveba,
ra Tqma unda,
konkretuli da
seriozuli
safrTxeebis
matarebelia.
11
politikuri speqtrisa
da pirvel yovlisa,
saxelisuflebo Zalebis
reitingis obieqtur
dacemas
sazogadoebaSi.
`
_ dRes xelisufleba
adekvaturad reagirebs
ruseTis mxridan
momaval safrTxeebze da
ramdenad aris qveyana
mzad nebismieri, am
droisTvis gaTvlili
Tu jerac ucnobi
safrTxeebisadmi?
_ saqarTvelos xelisufleba xan adekvaturia da
sakmaod xSirad araadekvaturi da dros CamorCenili
sakuTar qmedebebSi. es
metyvelebs imaze, rom reaqcia xelisuflebis mxridan
qaosuri da araprognozirebadia. es imazec metyvelebs,
rom xelisuflebas ar gaaCnia konkretuli strategia
da arc taqtika ama Tu im
gamowvevasTan gasamklaveblad. veWvob, arc SesaZlo
safrTxeebia jerovnad identificirebuli da gaanalizebuli. Sesabamisad, is, rom
me piradad ver davwameb am
xelisuflebas prorusulobas, veraferi bednierebaa.
`
arakompetenturoba,
qaosuroba,
saxelmwifosTvis,
rogorc mexuTe
kolona.
`
_ cxadia, rom ruseTis
Tema dRemde ver gaxda
politikuri
speqtrisTvis
konsolidaciis, erTian
poziciaze Camoyalibebis
sakiTxi. opozicia da
qarTveli xalxis
umravlesoba miiCnevs,
rom ruseTi agresoria,
xelisuflebam es sityva
saerTod amoiRo
mcdelobis saSualeba unda
miscemodaT. Tumca,
`
yvelafers aqvs
sazRvari da ukve dRes
imis araRiareba, rom
aRniSnuli mcdeloba
uSedegod damTavrda
anda Sedegis
dadgomisTvis
mcdeloba jer kidev
unda gagrZeldes, ver
iqneba Sefasebuli,
rogorc mxolod
saxelmwifosTvisac da am xelisuflebisTvisac. vimeoreb,
mcdelobis ufleba maT hqondaT da is, rom raRaca ar
gamovida, saqarTvelos xelisuflebis brali namdvilad araa. saqme gvaqvs ruseTTan da es saqarTvelos
mosaxleobas an mSvenivrad
esmis an amis axsna Cveni sazogadoebisTvis savsebiT realisturi amocanaa. Sesabamisad, arsebuli realiebis
aRiarebiT xelisufleba ar
dazaraldeba da qveyana ki,
seriozul safrTxeebs ai-
_ ruseTis mexuTe kolonis
gaZliereba, e.w. anklavebis
dafuZneba ruseTs mianiWebs
arCevanis ufro farTo areals saqarTvelosTan dapirispirebaSi. me piradad mimaCnia, rom rusuli `soft-power~
arasdros ar yofila da verc
axla iqneba imdenad mimzidveli,
rom
moxerxdes
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis umravlesobis anda Tundac seriozuli nawilis mosyidva an
gadabireba. Sesabamisad, prorusuli
Zalebis
mier
saqarTveloSi regularul
arCevnebSi warmatebis miRwevasa da am gziT xelisuflebaSi mosvlas gamovricxav.
Tumca, Tu aseTi anklavebis
zegavlenis qveS moeqca Tundac Cveni mosaxleobis 10%,
am segmentis aqtiurobis
SemTxvevaSi es savsebiT sakmarisi iqneba ukve arakonstituciuri gzebiT sasurveli
Sedegis misaRwevi mcdelobisTvis. aseT SemTxvevaSi, arc
e.w. prorusulad ganwyobili
`moZme eris~ dasaxmareblad
kremlidan gamogzavnili
tankis gamoricxva iqneboda
swori. miT umetes, rom am
tankis lula sul raRac
ormoci kilometridan Semoscqeris Cvens dedaqalaqs.
aseve, ar unda dagvaviwydes,
rom TviT
`
sakuTari politikuri
leqsikidan. eqspertebis
mier aris Tu ara am
arCevanis modelireba
gakeTebuli da ramdenad
sasargeblo SeiZleba
aRmoCndes es gza
idealisturiluzoruli
sibrmave.
` `
es ukve sxva SefasebiT kategoriaSia. aseTi mcdeloba
cilebs Tavidan. meore mxriv,
Tu xelisuflebam
gaagrZela ruseTis
mimarT, rbilad rom
vTqvaT, ususuri,
dRevandel Cvens
uaRresad ekleqtur
xelisuflebaSic arian
Zalebi, romlebic
prorusuli arCevanis,
rogorc realuri
samoqalaqo poziciis,
aRorZinebis
SemTxvevaSi, ar iqnebian
winaaRmdegni, flagmanis
rolis Sesruleba
iTavon.
`
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`vidre ruseTi torebs iqnevs, saqarTvelosa da
ukrainis natoSi gawevrianeba gamoricxulia~
xaTuna xatiaSvili
u
krainaSi
mimdinare
movlenebisa da
misi SesaZlo
ganviTarebis
samomavlo
scenarebTan
dakavSirebiT,
dasavleTisa da aSS-s
uunarobaze politikisa
da samxedro
eqspertebis nawili
alaparakda. mas Semdeg,
rac ruseTis samxedro
Zalebma yirimi daikaves,
ruseTTan
diplomatiuri
molaparakebisa da
ekonomikuri sanqciebis
muqara uSedego
tiuri izolacia da mudmivi
politikuri zewola, romelic ekonomikaze imoqmedebs,
magram es droSi gaiweleba.
goCa vetriakovi:
`yirims
ruseTi axla
ar SeierTebs,
magram kars
Rias
datovebs~
_ natos mouqneloba
raSi gamoixateba?
_ ukrainaSi Seqmnili
mdgomareobis
analizisas
analitikosebis erTi
_ marTalia, dasavleTis
qveynebs ara aqvT aranairi
berketi, sanqciis SemTxvevaSi, piriqiT, dasavleTi elementarulad TviTon dazaraldeba. ruseTSi saqonlis
40%-is importi dasavleTidan xorcieldeba, rac
imas niSnavs, rom am Semosavals evropelebi dakargaven. nato aris mouqneli da
zanti samxedro-politikuri
organizacia. masSi Semaval
qveynebs ar ZaluZT, ruseTis
winaaRmdeg raRac gaakeTon,
ar warmoadgenen im Zalas,
rom ruseTs daupirispird-
nawili miiCnevs, rom
dasavleTs ar gaaCnia
berketebi, romliTac
SeZlebs, ruseTze
gavlena moaxdinos.
rogorc samxedro
eqsperti, rogor
afasebT viTarebas, sadac
SeiaraRebuli
konfliqtis saSiSroeba
realurad arsebobs?
nen. ruseTs yirimSi sabrZolo moqmedebebis dawyeba ar
sWirdeba, radgan teritoriis 95%-s akontrolebs. es
scenari, albaT, gaTvlili
eqnebodaT. amitom moqmedeben
Tamamad da ukan ar ixeven.
grZelvadiani periodisTvis
ki yovlad SesaZlebelia finansuri sanqciebi, diploma-
enebs: problema-daZabulobasamxedro intervencia-politikuri mogvareba da bolo
30 wlis ganmavlobaSi amis
uamravi magaliTi dagrovda~,
_ ganacxada saqarTvelos
sazRvao Zalebis Stabis yofilma ufrosma, samxedro
eqspertma goCa vetriakovma, romelsac `premieri~
amerikaSi daukavSirda.
aRmoCnda. politikur
izolacias moskovis
amJamindeli
xelisuflebisTvis
aranairi mniSvneloba
ar eqneba, radgan mas
gaaCnia konkretuli
geopolitikuri,
geoekonomikuri, Tu
sxva samxedro-
politikuri interesebi,
romelsac nebismier
SemTxvevaSi daicavs.
`ruseTi natos samxedro
blokis saxiT safrTxes xedavs
da
Sesabamisad,
saqarTvelosa da ukrainis
natoSi gawevrianeba moskovisTvis kategoriulad mi-
uRebelia. moskovis xelisufleba cdilobs, ar dauSvas,
an ar moxdes Tbilisisa da
kievis gawevrianeba natos
samxedro-politikur blokSi. rac Seexeba paralelebsa
da moqmedebis scenarebs, SemiZlia giTxraT, rom yvela
qveyana, maT Soris aSS, safrangeTi da didi britaneTi, aseTive algoriTms iy-
_ jer erTi, TviTon natos
wevri qveynebis SigniT aris
politikuri azrTa sxvadasxvaoba, erTaderTi, visac natoSi gamorCeulad SeuZlia,
qmediTi nabijebi gadadgas,
aSS da didi britaneTia. danarCeni qveynebi, eWvi mepareba, samxedro moqmedebebs
Teoriuladac rom Seexon. am
yvelafris Sedegi is iqneba,
rom prezidenti vladimer
putini politikur viTarebas
duRilis maRal temperaturamde miiyvans, yirimSi
referendumi Catardeba da
misi Sedegic ruseTisTvis
sasargeblo aRmoCndeba. rusis erTi jariskacic rom ar
idges dRes iq, yirimis ruseTTan mierTebis gadawyvetileba mainc miRebuli
iqneba, radgan iqauri mosaxleobis 65%-s sxvadasxva
dros iq darCenili Savi
zRvis flotis yofili
samxedro, erovnebiT rusi
TanamSromlebi warmoadgenen
da isini sxva gadawyvetilebas ar miiReben.
_ imis miuxedavad, ra
SedegiT dasruldeba
referendumi, ukrainis
teritoriuli
mTlianobis sakiTxi
kiTxvis niSnis qveS mainc
dgeba. ra moxdeba aseT
SemTxvevaSi?
_ aq aris erTi momenti,
romelsac ruseTis xelisufleba dasavleTis winaaRm-
deg iyenebs. Tu kosovos SeuZlia, iyos damoukidebeli,
ratom ar SeuZlia iyos
damoukidebeli afxazeTs, e.w.
samxreT oseTs, yirims... TviTgamorkvevis ufleba yvela
ers aqvs, am SemTxvevaSi (maTive gagebiT) isini saerTaSoriso konvenciebsa da
kanonebs
ar
arRveven.
ukrainis mTavrobam dasva
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
sakiTxi, rom yirimSi referendumis Catareba ukrainis
konstitucias ewinaaRmdegeba. amis gamo, is mTel ukrainaSi ver Catardeba da mxolod yirimis mosaxleobam
unda gadawyvitos, avtonomiuri respublikis saxiT darCes ukrainaSi Tu ara. ase moxda afxazeTSi, e.w. samxreT
oseTSi, sadac ramdenjerme
Catarda
referendumi
saqarTvelodan
gamoyofazec, ruseTTan mierTebazec, magram praqtikuli
nabijebis gadadgmaSi es ar
gadazrdila, vidre sabediswero Secdomebi ar dauSva
saqarTvelos wina xelisuflebam.
igive
moxdeba
ukrainaSic. vfiqrob, yirims
ruseTi axla ar SeierTebs,
magram kars Rias datovebs.
_ anu mosalodnelia
samxedro dapirispireba?
_ ara, mosalodnelia
politikuri zewolis faqtori, romelsac ruseTi
ukrainis wina xelisuflebaze axorcielebda. ruseTs
sabrZolo moqmedebebis dawyeba ar ainteresebs, radgan
axla midis ukrainis gayofis
procesi am sityvis pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT. dasavleTis
yvela lideri dRes ambobs,
rom midis raRac teritoriebis me-19 saukunis doneze
gadawyoba-gadmowyoba da es
Cans kidec. ruseTi natos
samxedro blokis saxiT safrTxes xedavs da Sesabamisad,
saqarTvelosa
da
ukrainis natoSi gawevrianeba moskovisTvis kategoriulad miuRebelia, maSin, roca
es ukrainisTvis saxelmwifo
mniSvnelobis sakiTxia, yirims
ar daTmobs da dgas aseTi
dilema: an evropam unda Tqvas uari Tavis demokratiul
faseulobebze da dauTmos
ruseTs, an ruseTma unda
daixios ukan, aRiaros, rom
Caatara samxedro intervencia da ZaliT moaxdina sxva
saxelmwifos teritoriis mierTeba.
_ ruseTis mxridan
samxedro intervenciis
aRiareba saeWvoa,
dasavleTisa da amerikis
liderebma ki, ukve
ganacxades, rom
ruseTTan diplomatiur
doneze saubars azri
ara aqvs. Tuki, samxedro
konfliqtiT
dainteresebuli arc
erTi mxare ar aris,
gamodis rom dasavleTs
mouwevs Tavis
faseulobebze uaris
Tqma...
_ politologi ar var,
Tumca, yvelaze misaRebi
varianti ruseTisTvis SeiZleba es iyos: pirveli _
Catardeba referendumi, meore _ saparlamento da
saprezidento
arCevnebi
Catardeba ise, rom gaTvaliswinebuli iqneba yvela mxaris interesi, mesame _
ukrainis axali xelisufleba
arc erT SemTxvevaSi ar
moaxdens deklarirebas, rom
is SeuerTdeba Crdilo-atlantikur alianss, aramed
ityvis, rom iqneba nei-
traluri saxelmwifo. Tu am
sam punqtSi SeTanxmeba miiRweva, SesaZloa, yirimi darCes
ukrainis SemadgenlobaSi, magram ruseTis xelisufleba
daitovebs uflebas, nebismier dros, im referendumis
Sedegebisa da yirimis parlamentis mier ukve miRebuli
gadawyvetileba-Txovnis
safuZvelze, yirimi Seiyvanos
ruseTis SemadgenlobaSi.
13
wuxaro realuri suraTi.
imedi maqvs, bolo wlebSi
raRac Seicvala, magram oTx
welSi jari ar Sendeba. ar
SeiZleba iseT procesebSi
CarTva, rac SemdgomSi ukan
Tavadve Semogvitrialdeba.
aqedan rasac vxedav, qveynis
xelisuflebas swori politikuri midgoma aqvs. ukve
ramdeni welia amerikaSi var,
me am qveyanam gadamarCina,
romelic okeanis gamoRmaa,
saqarTvelo ki movlenebis
epicentrSia, amitom ar
gvWirdeba Tavis zedmetad
gamodeba. nu gavxdebiT romis papze didi kaTolikeebi.
Cven SeiZleba viyoT kargi
partniorebi, SeiZleba gavxdeT evrokavSiris wevri, magram aqve ismis kiTxva,
rogor SeiZleba saqarTvelo
TurqeTis respublikaze adre
gaxdes evrokavSiris wevri?
_ ukrainis movlenebamde
msoflioSi arsebuli
mdgomareobis
Sefasebisas ucxoeli
eqspertebis nawili mesame
msoflio omis
safrTxeebsa da
SesaZleblobebze
saubrobda. mas Semdeg,
rac yirimSi Seqmnil
viTarebaSi CineTma da
TurqeTma ruseTisadmi
mxardaWera gamoxates,
omis SesaZleblobaze
saubarma imata. Tqven ras
fiqrobT?
_ omi, rogorc iyo civi
omis dros, aseTi gagebiT
aRar iqneba. mesame msoflio
omi Tavisi gagebiT civilizaciebs Soris dajaxebas
gulisxmobs. es aris dasavluri da aRmosavluri civi-
lizaciebi da mxedvelobaSi
maqvs arabul-muslimanuri,
Cinuri da evropuli samyaroebi. msoflio omad SeiZleba CaiTvalos, roca ramdenime saxelmwifo CarTulia
sabrZolo moqmedebebSi da
yvela raRac interesebs
atarebs. nebismier SemTxvevaSi, mesame msoflio omi ver
moxdeba, radgan amis Tavi
aravis aqvs, TviT ruseTsac
ki. magaliTad, didi albaTobaa, rom moxdes dapirispireba pakistansa da indoeTs Soris, SesaZloa, CineTs
gauCndes pretenzia, aRadginos teritoriuli mTlianoba da taivans samxedro
ZaliT daupirispirdes, aseve
didi albaTobaa is, rac
ukrainaSi xdeba, aris bevri
sxva mimarTulebac, rasac
aucileblad mohyveba dasavleTis reagireba. jer kidev
ar aris garkveuli qurTistanis respublikis bedi,
romelic xels ar aZlevs
TurqeTs, asevea siriis SemTxvevaSic. msoflioSi Zalian
bevri saSiSi teritoriaa, sadac omis gaCaRebis saSiSroeba nebismier dros arsebobs.
ruseTTan dapirispireba upiratesobas aravis aZlevs.
ruseTsa da ukrainas Soris
konfliqtis gamwvaveba politikur da informaciul doneze SeiZleba moxdes, daZabulobis miuxedavad, amis iqiT,
ara mgonia, raime saxis dapirispirebaSi gadaizardos.
_ ukrainis winaaRmdeg
ruseTis mxridan
mimdinare agresiis
paralelurad,
saqarTvelo
evrokavSirSi asocirebis
xelSekrulebis
xelmosawerad emzadeba.
Tqveni azriT, rogori
pozicia unda daikavos
qveyanam ukrainis
movlenebTan
mimarTebaSi, rom Cveni
saxelmwifo interesebi
ar daziandes?
_ saqarTvelos wili am
SemTxvevaSi Zalian martivia:
cxviri aravis saqmeSi ar unda
CavyoT. yvelasTan keTilmezobluri ganwyoba unda
gvqondes, maqsimalurad vifiqroT
ekonomikis
aRorZinebaze da nebismier
samxedro kampaniaSi neitraliteti davicvaT. Cven
jerjerobiT lokalur konfliqtSi varT CaTreuli,
ruseTis mxares surs, es warmoaCinos, rogorc eTnikuri
dapirispireba afxazebsa da
qarTvelebs, osebsa da
qarTvelebs Soris, magram
dRes msoflioSi yvelam icis,
rom es xelovnurad inspirirebuli konfliqtebia. amis
miuxedavad, es CvenTvis sakmarisze meti problemaa.
politikaSi arsebobs interesebi da ara emociebi, an mxolod survilebi. interesebs
kidev cvalebadoba axasiaTebs. viyoT patriotebi,
rogorc ar unda gvindodes,
Cven realurad ar gvyavs SeiaraRebuli Zalebi, formis
Cacma da jariskacis lamaz
yazarmaSi dasma ar niSnavs,
rom jari gvyavs. Cven gvaqvs
Canasaxis doneze awyobili
struqturebi, romelsac ganviTarebisTvis kidev 20-25
weli esaWiroeba. ukrainaSi
sabWoTa sistemidan ver gadaewyvnen Tanamedrove, dasavlur sistemaze. saqarTvelos
SemTxvevaSi, mTeli struqtura gadmoRebulia dasavluridan, cdiloben, is natos
standartiT aawyon, magram
ar arsebobs misi Sinaarsobrivi aRqma. imedi maqvs,
bolo wlebSi raRac Seicvala, Torem 2008 wlis movlenebma yvelas dagvanaxa, rom
Cven jari ar gvyavda. Cven
jerjerobiT
kanonieri
gasamxedroebuli
for-
mirebebi gvyavs. 1989 wels,
afxazeTis omamde, pirveli
gvardiis danayofebi rom
Seiqmna, iq ufro meti
suliskveTeba da Segneba iyo,
vidre axla.
_ ra aris amis mizezi?
_ albaT, pirvel rigSi,
araswori sakadro politika,
dawyebuli
SevardnaZis
droidan. Semdeg moiyvanes
adamianebi,
romlebsac
samxedro saqmis araferi gaegebodaT. SeiZleba viRac kargi pirovneba iyos, magram ar
SeiZleba Sesabamisi ganaTlebisa da gamocdilebis armqones Caabaro generaluri
Stabi. 2008 wlis SeiaraRebul
konfliqtamde, saqarTvelos
SeiaraRebul Zalebs saerTod
ar gaaCndaT sameTauro-sakomando sistema da rac mTavaria, sameTauro Semadgenloba saerTod mospobili
iyo. es aris pirveli danaSauli, romelic mixeil saakaSvils qveynis winaSe piradad
aqvs Cadenili. rogorc
stalinma meore msoflio
omis dros gaakeTa, mTeli
generalitetis naxevari daxvrita, naxevari _ gadaasaxla
da saWiro dros adgilze
aRaravin iyo, visac SeeZlo,
jari brZolaSi gaeyvana.
igive viTareba gaxldaT
saqarTveloSi, es aris sam-
es qveyana didi xania cdilobs, Sevides am gaerTianebaSi. Cvenze gacilebiT Zlierebi arian ekonomikurad, ase
Tu ise, demokratiac aris da
sainteresoa, rogor unda gadavuswroT mas. asocirebis
xelSekrulebis xelmoweram
kargi Sansebi SeiZleba
mogvces ekonomikis mxriv,
magram natos wevri qveyana
Cven verasodes gavxdebiT,
sul cota Semdegi 20 wlis
ganmavlobaSi. vfiqrob, amis
Sesaxeb saqarTvelos xelisuflebaSi ician, magram an
xmamaRla Tqmas eridebian, an
Tavs ar utydebian. natoSi,
rogorc saxelmwifom, raRac
funqcia unda Seasrulo.
roca aRmosavleT evropisa
da baltiis qveynebi miiRes,
maSin es politikuri gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze moxda, vidre ruseTi torebs
iqnevs, saqarTvelosa da
ukrainis natoSi gawevrianeba gamoricxulia. yirimi SeiZleba darCes ukrainis SemadgenlobaSi, magram, sanam ruseTis samxedro bazebi dgas
ukrainaSi, Zalian didi eWvi
mepareba, rom ukraina natos
wevri gaxdes. ase varT Cvenc,
sanam saqarTvelos konfliqtur teritoriebze rusuli
bazebi iqneba, natos verc mivuaxlovdebiT. simarTle
unda iTqvas da es aris.
14 premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
saqarTvelo investorebs 900-milionian bazars sTavazobs
,,saqarTvelo investorebs SesaniSnav adgilmdebareobas da 900-milionian bazars sTavazobs”, _amis Sesaxeb, spremier-ministrma irakli RaribaSvilma ganacxada.
“investorebs vTvazobT - myar suverenul balanss; liberalur sagadasaxado sistemas, rac
gulisxmobs dabali gadasaxadebis mxolod eqvs fiqsirebul tips;
konservatiul sabanko seqtors; ganviTarebul satransporto infrastruqturas vaWrobis, logistikisa da warmoebisaTvis, rac
moicavs multimodalur sazRvao, saxmeleTo da sahaero komunikaciebs; konkurentuli fasebiT da stabilurad miwodebul energoresursebs; kvalificiur samuSao Zalas konkurentuli tarifebiT”, -aRniSna saqarTvelos premier-ministrma.
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ekonomikis 5 %-iani zrdis miRweva, savsebiT
realisturia
014 wels ekonomikis 5 %-iani zrdis miRwevas savsebiT realisturs uwodebs
saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis prezidenti giorgi qadagiZe.
„Cven vfiqrobT, rom 5 %-iani zrdis miRweva savsebiT realisturia. ra
Tqma unda aris riskebic, romlebic ZiriTadad geopolitikur mdgomareobas
ukavSirdeba. mogexsenebaT, mimdinare movlenebi, romelic viTardeba Cvens
TiTqmis yvela mezobel qveyanaSi da gansakuTrebiT ukrainaSi, aman raRaca
tipis gavlena SesaZloa iqonios qarTul ekonomikaze. Tu gamovricxavT sagareo faqtorebs, romelzec
Cven gavlena ar gvaqvs, maSin 5 %-iani ekonomikuri zrdis miRweva savsebiT realisturia”- ganacxada
seb-is prezidentma giorgi qadagiZem
`realuri safrTxe, ris winaSec dgas saqarTvelos ekonomika,
aris misi fulad-sakredito sistemis araefeqturi marTva~
laSa nodia
p
remiers~
esaubra
eqsperti lia
eliava
eliava:
_ q-no lia
xelisufleba saubrobs
ekonomikis gajansaRebis
procesze, realurad Tu
SeiniSneba gajansaRebis
procesi da sad?
_ xelisufleba valdebulia, isaubros ekonomikur
gajansaRebaze. es miRebuli
formaa yvela qveyanaSi, radgan maRalCinosnebis mier sazogadoebisadmi mowodebul
informacias didi datvirTva aqvs. albaT, yvelas gvaxsovs gasuli 2013 wlis pirveli
Tveebi,
rodesac
ekonomikuri zrdis tempebi
yovelTviurad iklebda. maSin
mTavrobis warmomadgenlebi
jiutad imeorebdnen, rom
wlis bolos dagegmil 6-procentian zrdas eqneboda adgili. darwmunebuli var, rom
maT yvela Cvenganze kargad
icodnen, rom dagegmili tempebi ver Sesruldeboda. Tumca mas Semdeg, rac saerTaSoriso institutebma zrdis
prognozebi Seamcires, xelisuflebis rixiani mtkiceba dagegmili zrdis tempebis
Sesaxeb Sesustda. metic, zogierTma misma warmomadgenelma zrdis ufro dabali
tempebi SesTavaza sazogadoebas. ase xdeba gardamaval
qveynebSi, gansakuTrebiT iq,
sadac mwvave Sidapolitikur
winaaRmdegobas aqvs adgili.
damTavrda 2013 weli da 6procentiani zrdis sanacvlod miviReT 3.2-procentiani zrda.
mTavrobas amJamad namdvilad aqvs safuZveli,
isaubros ekonomikis gajansaRebaze. amis safuZvels
iZleva `saqstatis~ mier gasuli wlis dasasrulsa da mimdinare wlis pirveli ori
Tvis ekonomikuri zrdis
maCveneblis winaswari Sefaseba. kerZod, 2014 wlis ianvarSi zrdam 7.8% Seadgina. am
cifris gaangariSebas safuZvlad daedo samomxmareblo
da mwarmoebelTa fasebis indeqsebis zrda (0.8% da 2.3%
Sesabamisad), sagareo savaWro
brunvis zrda (14.5%), dRg-s
brunvis maCveneblis zrda
(14.9%), axlad registrirebu-
li biznesis zrda (9.9%), sabiujeto Semosavlebis zrda
(3.8%). rogorc vxedavT,
maCveneblebi sakmaod optimisturad
gamoiyureba.
rogorc finansTa saministro acxadebs, winaswari monacemebiT,
TebervalSi
ekonomika ufro maRali tempebiT gaizarda. amasTanave,
ar unda dagvaviwydes, rom
gacxadebuli cifrebi saboloo araa, maTSi Seitaneba
koreqtivebi matebis an klebis mimarTulebiT.
`saqstati~ oficialurad
acxadebs, rom `realuri
kvartaluri gaangariSebebi
SesaZloa mniSvnelovnad gansxvavdebodes winaswari Sefasebisgan~. es ganmarteba
sruliad samarTliania, vinaidan ekonomikuri zrdis
winaswari Sefaseba realuri
zrdisgan SeiZleba gansxvavdebodes 4-6 procentuli
punqtiT. Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, rom gasuli wlis
ianvarSi zrdam 2.4% Seadgina da es cifri met-naklebad
ukve dazustebulia, mimdinare wlis 7.8%-iani zrda,
koreqtirebuli cdomilebaze, ar SeiZleba CaiTvalos
ekonomikur zrdaSi miRweul
gansakuTrebul warmatebad.
rac Seexeba sabiujeto Semosavlebs, gasuli 2013 weli
arc ise warmatebuli iyo.
biujets 600 milion larze
meti daaklda, Tumca wlevandeli sastarto maCvenebeli
damakmayofilebelia. ianvarSi sabiujeto Semosavlebi
3%-iT gaizarda. finansTa
saministros monacemebiT,
gadaWarbebiT Sesrulda biujetis saSemosavlo nawili da
ianvar-TebervalSi TiTqmis
100 milion laramde zegegmuri Tanxaa mobilizebuli.
iklo wina wlis dekemberTan
SedarebiT. importi Semcirebulia 33.7%-iT, xolo
eqsporti _ 23.6%-iT. aseTi
mniSvnelovani
klebis
mizezad SeiZleba dasaxeldes
ianvrisTvis damaxasiaTebeli
dabali biznesaqtivoba, Tumca wina wlebSi am ukanasknels
ar hqonia ase aSkarad
gamoxatuli saxe. SeiZleba
vivaraudoT, agreTve, ZiriTadi savaWro partnioris _
es aris biznesis gaaqtiurebis erTgvari pozitiuri signali.
ianvarSi sagareo savaWro
brunva, marTalia, gaizarda
2013 wlis ianvarTan SedarebiT, Tumca mniSvnelovnad
ukrainis faqtoris gavlenac.
biznesaqtivobis erT-erT
maCveneblad miiCneven axlad
registrirebuli biznesis
raodenobas. vfiqrob, is ver
gamodgeba ekonomikis zrdis
maCveneblad. 2013 wlis mo-
vixilavT qveynis ekonomikas
ukanaskneli 3-4 Tvis ganmavlobaSi, aSkarad aRmavlobis
procesTan gvaqvs saqme wina
TveebTan SedarebiT. Tumca
jerjerobiT tendenciaze
saubari zedmetia. mTavrobas
ki imedi ar mouSalos RmerTma da am imedis praqtikuli
realizacia uTuod waadgeba
qveyanas.
_ antimonopoliuri
kanonproeqti mzadaa da
is parlaments
gadaegzavna
gansaxilvelad. ra
Sedegs mogvcems es
kanonmdebloba?
eqspertTa nawili am
kanonmdeblobaze did
imedebs amyarebs. nawili
ki fiqrobs, rom
mTavaria politikuri
neba. Tqven rogor
fiqrobT?
safrTxis Semcvelia
erovnuli bankis mier
gatarebuli monetaruli
RonisZiebebi
nacemebiT, daregistrirebuli biznesis mxolod 20 procenti eweva aqtiur saqmianobas, xolo am 20%-dan
53%-is
saqmianoba
`saqstatisTvis~ ucnobia. gamomdinare aqedan, daregistrirebuli biznesis mxolod
9.5%-s Seaqvs wvlili mTliani
Siga produqtis formirebaSi. biznesis daregistrireba
saqarTveloSi advilia da am
maCvenebliT Cven msoflios
pirvel aTeulSi varT, magram
es mxolod piaris atributia.
daregistrirebuli biznesis
mxolod mcire nawili agrZelebs saqmianobas. amas
statistikac adasturebs.
dReisaTvis daregistrirebuli biznesis raodenoba 557
aTasia, xolo, faqtobrivad,
funqcionirebs mxolod 113
aTasi erTeuli. ase rom, biznesis daregistrirebis
maCvenebliT
qveynis
ekonomikur aRmavlobaze
saubari safuZvels moklebulia.
amrigad,
SeiZleba
davaskvnaT, rom mSp-s zrdis,
biujetis saSemosavlo nawilis zrdis kuTxiT Tu gan-
_ ekonomikis monopolizacias mTeli msoflio ebrZvis, radgan is zRudavs sabazro ekonomikis umTavres
princips _ Tavisufal
konkurencias. saqarTvelos
ekonomikisTvis rom yofiliyo damaxasiaTebeli monopoliuri konkurencia, es iqneboda bevrad ufro ukeTesi,
vidre
konkurenciasTan
dakavSirebuli dRes Seqmnili viTareba. monopoliuri
konkurencia gulisxmobs bazarze didi odenobiT msxvili mwarmoeblebis arsebobas, maT Soris karteluri
garigebis dadebis sirTulesa da monopoliuri brZolis
Sedegad
warmoebul
saqonelze fasebis vardnas.
samwuxarod, saqarTveloSi
arsebobs ara monopoliuri
bazari, aramed oligopoliuri bazari. oligopolia
gulisxmobs ramdenime msxvili mewarmis arsebobas bazarze, maT Soris mWidro kavSirs da bazarze axali potenciuri konkurentebis Sesvlis SeuZleblobas. oligopoliebi advilad Sedian
kartelur garigebebSi erTmaneTTan da, monopolisturi
bazrisgan gansxvavebiT, dainteresebulni arian maRali
fasebis dawesebaSi maT mier
warmoebul produqtebsa da
momsaxurebaze. aseT sferoebze didi xania saubaria
eqspertebis, mecnierebisa da
TviT xelisuflebis mxridanac. aseTia, magaliTad,
saqarTvelos farmacevtuli
da navTobproduqtebis bazrebi, sadac oligopoliebi
adgenen
importirebuli
saqonlis moculobasa da
masze fasebs. amaT ricxvSia
agreTve sabanko bazari, sadac oligopoliebi, anu
sistemawarmomqmneli bankebi,
romlebsac bazris 80% ukavia, adgenen maRal saprocento ganakveTebs kreditebze.
es ki mZime tvirTad awveba
bizness, mosaxleobas, mTlianad ekonomikas da, saboloo
jamSi, mosaxleobis cxovrebis dones.
konkurenciis
dacvis
Sesaxeb rogori saxis kanonmdeblobac ar unda iyos miRebuli, yvelafers ekargeba
azri, Tu isev iqneba SenarCunebuli oligopoliuri
bazari. mxedvelobaSi maqvs
erTi ekonomikuri subieqtis
mier bazris 40% wilis flobis ufleba. praqtikulad,
kanonmdeblobiT dasaSvebia,
rom bazarze sami oligopolia marTavdes ekonomikis
erT dargs. aseTi mZime viTarebaa Seqmnili sabanko bazarze, sadac ori oligopolia gansazRvravs sakredito
produqtis fass da qmnis
iseT viTarebas, rom bazridan
ganidevneba
iafi
sakredito produqtebis mimwodeblebi.
saqarTvelos
sabanko
sistemaSi komerciuli bankebis araTanabar pirobebSi Cayenebas xelisufleba mizanmimarTulad axorcielebda.
amis mkafio magaliTia is, rom
mTavroba mxolod calkeul
2-3 msxvil bankSi axdenda
TiTqmis mTeli samTavrobo
da municipaluri miznobrivi
daniSnulebis sabiujeto
Tanxebis akumulirebas, rac
am bankebs privilegirebul
mdgomareobaSi ayenebda.
oligopoliuri bazris
problemasTan erTad arsebobs, agreTve, saxelmwifos
mier maTi regulirebis problemac. didi xania damkvidrda mavne tradiciad araspecialistebis daniSvna im Tanamdebobebze,
romlebic
moiTxoven specifikur kvalifikacias. ucodinari piri
ver gaerkveva oligopoliebis saqmianobis niuansebSi,
oligopoliis argumentebs
ver daupirispirebs Tavis
argumentebs, ris Sedegadac
konkurenciis dacvis kanonmdebloba iqneba praqtikulad umoqmedo.
aqve minda Sevexo konkurenciasTan dakavSirebul metad
mniSvnelovan sakiTxs. es aris
momxmareblebis dacva ara-
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
msoflio valma 100
trilion dolars
gadaaWarba
TebervlSi 4 194 biznessubieqtebi daregistrirda
saxelmwifoebisa da kompaniebis valma, mTeli planetis masStabiT 100 trilion dolars ukve gadaaWarba. SedarebisaTvis, 2013 wels msoflio mSp-m 87,18
trilioni dolari Seadgina. aRsaniSnavia
isic, rom 2007 wels 2013 welTan SedarebiT vali 30 trilionidan 100
trilion dolaramdea gazrdili.
keTilsindisieri mewarmeebisagan. da problema aramarto uxarisxo saqonelSia. mewarmeebi Tavis saqonlisa da
momsaxurebis gasayidad iyeneben momxmareblebis SecdomaSi Seyvanisa da aSkarad
motyuebis meTodebs. Sedegad
zaraldeba Cveni qveynis mosaxleobis rogorc janmrTeloba, aseve materialuri
keTildReoba. rac dro gadis, miT ufro mravalferovani da mravalricxovani
xdeba bazarze gamotanili
saqoneli da momsaxureba.
aseT pirobebSi momxmarebeli
Tavad ver icavs Tavis uflebebs da, samwuxarod, arc saxelmwifo
zrunavs
mis
dacvaze. momxmarebelTa
uflebebis dacvis, faqtobrivad, gauqmebuli meqanizmisa
da am sakiTxis bazrisTvis
mindobis Sedegad monopoliebma da oligopoliebma
fexqveS gaTeles momxmarebelTa uflebebi.
_ premier-ministri da
ekonomikuri gundi
dagegmili ekonomikuri
zrdis prognozs
realisturs uwodeben.
Tu gasuli wlis
magaliTs moviyvanT
lamis bolo Tvemde ar
aRiarebda xelisufleba
imas, rom ekonomikuri
vardna iyo. amis
gaTvaliswinebiT,
ramdenad realisturia
ekonomikuri zrdis
prognozi?
_ rogorc sazogadoebisTvis cnobilia, saxelmwifo
biujeti daigegma mSp-s 5procentiani zrdiT, gasul
welTan SedarebiT erTi procentiT naklebi. Tu gamovalT dReisTvis Camoyalibebuli maCveneblebidan, SeiZleba vivaraudoT, rom
dagegmili maCvenebeli miRwevadia. mxedvelobaSi maqvs
gasuli wlis noember-dekembrisa da mimdinare wlis
ianvar-Tebervlis mSp-s zrdis maRali maCvenebeli, magram Tqma imisa, rom am prognozis cdomilebis albaToba
erTis tolia, SeuZlebelia
sxvadasxva garemoebebis gamo.
upirveles
yovlisa,
gasaTvaliswinebelia is garemoeba, rom saqarTvelos
ekonomika importis kuTxiT
sakmaod integrirebulia
msoflio ekonomikaSi. aseTi
integraciis veqtori ufro
calmxrivia, vinaidan msoflio ekonomikidan Cven ufro
mets viRebT, vidre gavcemT.
faqti saxezea _ importi 4jer aWarbebs eqsports.
amasTanave,
msoflio
ekonomikaSi mimdinare negatiuri ryevebi uaryofiTad
moqmedebs Cveni qveynis
ekonomikis zrdaze. anu es
unda CaiTvalos erT-erT
risk-faqtorad.
meore, friad damafiqrebeli faqtori aseve ukavSirdeba sagareo sferos.
ukanasknel dros Cveni qveynis sagareo vaWrobis struqturaSi moxda seriozuli
gadaadgilebebi. sagareo
savaWro umsxviles partniorebs Soris, TurqeTisa da
azerbaijanis Semdeg, mesame
da meoTxe adgils iyofen
ukraina da ruseTi. am or did
qveyanas Soris warmoqmnili
dapirispireba uTuod negatiurad aisaxeba saqarTvelos ekonomikur zrdaze.
am or sagareo faqtorTan
erTad gasaTvaliswinebelia
Sida faqtorebic. kerZod,
bolo ar uCans politikur
dapirispirebas mmarTvel da
opoziciur partiebs Soris.
am WidilSi mmarTvel partias
naklebi
dro
rCeba
ekonomikisTvis. amas emateba
moaxloebuli adgilobrivi
xelisuflebis arCevnebic.
aravisTvis araa ucxo, rom
aseTi mcire zomis qveyanaSi,
rogoricaa saqarTvelo,
arCevnebi negatiurad zemoqmedebs
ekonomikaze.
gasaTvaliswinebelia isic,
rom dRevandeli Cveni sazogadoeba
zedmetadaa
politizebuli, rac nakleb
dros tovebs ekonomikaze
safiqrelad. pirveli niSnebi
ukve saxezea. daiwyo gaficvebis axali talRa: WiaTuris
maRaroelebi,
bolnisis
oqros
mompoveblebi,
mZRolebi, mexanZreebi da a.S.
es ki ekonomikuri zrdis
risk-faqtorebia.
saerTod prognozireba
umaduri saqmea, miT umetes
ekonomikuri prognozireba.
mimaCnia, rom Tu gamovalT
Camoyalibebuli retrospeqtuli maCveneblebidan da
15
Tu is miiRebs tendenciis
saxes, 5-procentiani zrda
garantirebulia. magram, Tu
sagareo da saSinao negatiuri risk-faqtorebis neitralizacia ar moxda, zrdis
dagegmili maCveneblis praqtikuli realizeba SeuZlebeli iqneba. xolo prognozireba imisa, rogor ganviTardeba globaluri, ufro sworad, samezoblo regionuli
movlenebi da rogori politikuri wonasworoba damyardeba qveynis SigniT, mxolod RmerTs SeuZlia.
aqve minda aRvniSno erTi
garemoeba. saerTaSoriso safinanso-ekonomikuri organizaciebi xSirad varjiSoben
calkeuli qveynebis da, maT
Soris,
saqarTvelos
ekonomikuri ganviTarebis
prognozirebaSi. sakmarisia
aRiniSnos, rom SarSan saerTaSoriso savaluto fondma
samjer Secvala saqarTvelos
ekonomikuri zrdis prognozi, sxva organizaciebma _
4-jer da yvela prognozi
Semcirebis veqtoriT xasiaTdeboda. am wlis prognozi
saerTaSoriso savaluto
fondma gazarda kidec da
gviwinaswarmetyvela 6-procentiani zrda. miuxedavad
Cemi didi pativiscemisa am
organizaciebis mimarT, minda vTqva, rom maT dauZveldaT prognozirebis meTodologia da meTodika da
ufro politikuri manipulaciebiT iwoneben Tavs. aba,
sxvas ras unda mivaweroT
maTi prognozebis dabali
xarisxi?
_ gasuli wlis 2miliardiani
sainvesticio gegma
Cavarda, mTavroba mTel
imedebs 2014 wlis meore
naxevarze amyarebs.
rogorc wesi, kapitali
miiswrafvis iqiT, sadac
gamoyenebis saukeTeso
sajaro reestris erovnuli saagentos oficialuri monacemebiT, 2014 wlis TebervlSi qveyanaSi registrirebuli biznes subieqtebis raodenobam 4 194 erTeuli Seadgina,
romelTa Soris 95.9% samewarmeo subieqtia (individualuri mewarme, solidaruli pasuxismgeblobis sazogadoeba, SezRuduli pasuxismgeblobis sazogadoeba, saaqcio sazogadoeba, komandituri
sazogadoeba, kooperativi, ucxouri samewarmeo iuridiuli piris filiali), xolo
4.1% - arasamewarmeo subieqti (arasamewarmeo iuridiuli piri, ucxouri arasamewarmeo
iuridiuli piris filiali, sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli piri). amave TveSi biznesis
registraciis Tvis indeqsi (dekemberi 2010=100) 0.958 doneze dafiqsirda.
pirobebia. igulisxmeba
jansaRi biznesgaremo.
gamoiTqva mosazreba,
rom xelisuflebas
investorebTan
urTierToba uWirs. ras
ukavSirebT kapitalis
Semodinebis Semcirebas?
_ axalma xelisuflebam
jer kidev winasaarCevno
programaSi gaakeTa gancxadeba sainvesticio politikis
transformaciis Sesaxeb. mTavari aqcenti aRebuli iyo sainvesticio garemos gaumjobesebasa da sainvesticio
fondebis Seqmnaze. Tumca
yovelgvari Selamazebis
gareSe unda iTqvas, rom xelisuflebam sworad ver
daaprognoza qveyanaSi ucxouri investiciebis Semodinebis parametrebi. Tavidanve
iyo saubari 2-miliardiani
investiciebis mozidvaze.
jerjerobiT gasuli wlis
ucxouri investiciebis moculoba ar aris gansazRvruli, magram `saqstatis~ monacemebiT ianvar-seqtemberSi
man 698 mln. aSS dolari Sead-
gina,
rac
wina
wlis
analogiur periodTan SedarebiT
2.8%-iT
aris
gazrdili, Tumca Cveni
ekonomikis finansuri ukmarisobis pirobebSi es zrda
Zalian mcirea.
droSi gaiwela sainvesticio fondebis Seqmna. saxelmwifom ver uzrunvelyo am
fondebis gamWvirvaloba. am
garemoebas xazs usvams saerTaSoriso savaluto fondi,
romelic Tavis angariSSi
aRniSnavs, rom saqarTvelos
xelisuflebam unda uzrunvelyos sainvesticio fondebis miznebis, moculobisa da
saqmianobis detaluri ganmarteba.
samarTlianoba moiTxovs
iTqvas, rom ucxouri investiciebis mozidva CvenisTana
patara da arastabilur qveyanaSi sakmaod rTuli saqmea.
ucxoel investorebs jer
kidev axsovT saxelmwifos
mier reideruli Setevebi,
qonebis warTmeva adgilobrivi mewarmeebisTvis da
ucxoeli mewarmeebis devna.
amitomac is ucxoeli investorebi, romlebic riskaven
saqarTveloSi kapitalis dabandebas, ZiriTadad operireben qarTveli araoficialuri milionrebisa da
miliarderebis TanxebiT. amitomac mimaCnia sasicocxlod aucilebel garemoebad
xeli Seewyos araoficialuri
milionrebis statusebis garantirebas da maT neba daerToT sakuTari saxeliT investiciebis saxiT Semoitanon
saqarTveloSi aqedan waRebuli kapitali. amiT ixeirebs,
pirvel rigSi, saqarTvelos
ekonomika.
_ rodesac saubaria
ZiriTad safrTxeebze,
ris winaSec dgas dRes
saqarTvelos ekonomika,
maT Sorisaa inflacia
da sainvesticio
politikis efeqturobis
sakiTxi. saubaria imaze,
rom gansakuTrebiT wlis
meore naxevrisTvis,
yvelaze mniSvnelovani
swored inflaciis
zRvruli 6%-iani
maCveneblis `daWera~
iqneba, Tanac ise, rom
arc savaluto rezervi
Semcirdes saxifaTo
zRvramde da arc
zedmetad moxdes fulis
`gaZvireba~. Tqveni
SefasebiT, ra aris dRes
ekonomikis mTavari
safrTxe?
_ safrTxeebi da muqarebi
saqarTvelos ekonomikis
mudmivi Tanmxlebi garemoebebia. maT Tavs ver arideben
verc ganviTarebuli qveynebi, Tumca CvenTan safrTxeebis realizebas ufro mZime
Sedegebi mohyveba xolme. yvelaze mniSvnelovani safrTxe
Cveni qveynisTvis aris
umuSevroba da masTan dakavSirebuli siRaribis safrTxe.
am problemis gadawyvetis
mimarTulebiT nabijebi praqtikulad ar gadadgmula, Tu
ar CavTvliT soflis meurneobis dafinansebis programas. arada saqarTvelos aqvs
imis potenciali, rom importirebuli saqonlis naxevarze meti, gansakuTrebiT
sasursaTo
saqoneli,
Caanacvlos adgilobrivi
warmoebis saqonliT.
mniSvnelovani safrTxis
Semcvelia erovnuli bankis
mier gatarebuli monetaruli RonisZiebebi, romlebmac
ver miiRo srulyofili
politikis saxe da sul axlaxan ubralod deklarirda
rogorc strategia. arada
qveyanas sWirdeba sworedac
mecnierulad argumentirebuli monetaruli politika
da, amasTanave, gasajaroebuli da prognozirebadi
politika. yvela mewarmes,
investorsa da, ubralod,
nebismier pirs unda hqondes
cxadi warmodgena imis Sesaxeb, ra zomebs miiRebs erovnuli banki safinanso seqtorSi
ganviTarebuli movlenebis
sapasuxod.
araadekvaturi monetaruli RonisZiebebis Sedegia,
rom ukanaskneli 3 wlis ganmavlobaSi
inflaciis
maCvenebeli xan orniSna xdeba, xan ki uaryofiTi da qveyana eqceva deflaciaSi.
erovnuli bankis araefeqtiani saqmianobis Sedegad
ukanaskneli 5 wlis ganmavlobaSi ver moxerxda inflaciis 6%-iani miznobrivi
maCveneblis miRweva an masTan
miaxloebac ki. sazogadoebisTvis saerTod ucnobia, ratom CaTvala erovnulma bankma, rom inflaciis 6%-iani
maCvenebeli optimaluri
iqneba qveynis ekonomikisTvis,
arc is icis, vin ukarnaxa, es
niSnuli gamoeyenebina miznobriv maCveneblad. da arc is
icis, ratom unda iyos inflaciis maCvenebeli 5%-is
doneze 2015 wlidan.
optimaluri monetaruli
politikis arqonisa da epizoduri monetaruli zomebis gatarebis pirobebSi
erovnuli banki advilad
kargavs savaluto rezervebs,
romlebic ara erovnuli
bankis, aramed saxelmwifos
sakuTrebaa. calke sasaubro
Temaa am rezervebis marTvis
problema, vinaidan sazogadoebisTvis ucnobia, ramdenad sando fasian qaRaldebSia ganTavsebuli erovnuli
simdidre da ra safrTxe SeiZleba daemuqros maT, kerZo
fondebis gakotrebis SemTxvevaSi. aseve, gakvirvebas
iwvevs im Tanxebis simwire,
romlebsac Semosavlis saxiT
iRebs, erovnuli banki
rezervebis ganTavsebidan.
rac Seexeba laris zedmetad gamyarebis problemas,
lari ukve aris zedmetad
gamyarebuli, rac zRudavs
bizness, zrdis sakredito
resursebis fass da xels uSlis qveynis ekonomikis ganviTarebas.
amrigad, SeiZleba iTqvas,
rom yvelaze realuri safrTxe, ris winaSec dgas
saqarTvelos ekonomika, aris
misi
fulad-sakredito
sistemis araefeqturi marTva.
16 premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
#10 (027)
`xelisufleba ar aRmoCnda mzad, politikuri
gavlenebisgan, centralizebisgan gaeTavisuflebina is
sferoebi, sadac `meti demokratiaa~ saWiro~
gega silagava
p
remieris~
kiTxvebs
samoqalaqo
ganviTarebis
saagentos (sida)
aRmasrulebelma
direqtorma zviad
devdarianma upasuxa:
_ mogesalmebi, Cveni
saubari zogadi kiTxviT
daviwyoT _ ramdenad
angariSgasawevi Zalaa
saqarTveloSi samoqalaqo
seqtori?
_ Cveni tipis qveynisTvis,
sadac saxelmwifoebriobisa
da kanonis uzenaesobis garanti ara saxelmwifo instituciebi, aramed kvlav am instituciebis pirveli pirebi
arian, swored samoqalaqo seqtoria is sapirwone, romelic miukerZoeblad popularizebas uwevs, icavs da axorcielebs adamianis sxvadasxva
uflebas. ase rom, am seqtoris
mniSvneloba ganuzomelia. centraluri mediis politikuri
dRis wesrigisa da regionuli
mediis sisustis fonze, samoqalaqo seqtori rCeba individi moqalaqis interesebis sadarajoze.
ganvlili 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi, vfiqrob, sakmaod
didi gamocdileba SeiZina am
seqtorma. sakmaod didi gavlena moaxdina 2012 wlis
arCevnebamde
garemos
formirebaze kampaniam `es Sen
gexeba!~, romelic, sxvaTa
Soris, ramdenime dRis win ganaxlda ukanono mosmenebis
winaaRmdeg, rac xazs usvams
imas, rom arasamTavrobo organizaciebi romelime xelisuflebis winaaRmdeg ki ar arian, aramed im sakiTxebis daregulirebaze gavlenas cdiloben, romelic sasicocxloa demokratiisa da adamianis uflebebis ZiriTadi
principebis realizebisTvis.
_ rodesac angariSgasawevi
Zala vaxsene, pirvel
rigSi, vigulisxme Cveni
realoba, `qveynis
umTavresi `moqalaqis~
pozicia, romelsac
metwilad arc samoqalaqo
seqtoris mier danaxuli
realoba moswons,
mediaze xom saubari arc
Rirs. SevecadoT, viyoT
gulwrfelebi _ ra
problemebia samoqalaqo
seqtorSi da ramdenad
negatiur gavlenas axdens
es qveynis ganviTarebaze?
_ samwuxarod, samoqalaqo
seqtoris problemebze Tavad
am seqtorSi naklebi iniciativiT saubroben. arada bune-
brivia, rom iseve rogorc
demokratiuli institutebis
mSenebloba, es seqtoric didi
xani ar aris, rac viTardeba
da mis ganviTarebas, bunebrivia, xarvezebic axlavs. am problemebis erT-erTi pirveli
indikatori sxvadasxva organizaciebis mier Catarebuli
kvlevebia, romlebic aCvenebs,
rom sakmaod dabalia sazogadoebis ndoba arasamTavrobo
organizaciebis mimarT. amas
ganapirobebs ramdenime faqtori: 1. am organizaciebs
dRemde kargad ar icnobs qveynis mosaxleoba; 2. mediaSi naklebad Cans is saqme, rasac es
organizaciebi akeTeben. Tu
Cndebian arasamTavroboebis
warmomadgenlebi, isev mediis
politikur dRis wesrigTan
dakavSirebiT da ufro
rogorc individebi, eqspertebi; 3. arasamTavroboebi xSirad donorebze ufro arian
orientirebulebi, vidre beneficiarebze/moqalaqeebze, rac
iwvevs imas, rom maTi saqmianoba, calkeul SemTxvevebSi, daSorebulia sazogadoebis
saWiroebebs; 4. aris sferoebi,
sadac samoqalaqo organizaciebis kvalifikacia arc ise
didia da a.S. yvelaferi es
bunebrivi, arasaTanado konsolidaciis pirobebSi, uaryofiTad aisaxeba samoqalaqo
organizaciebis saqmianobis
efeqtianobaze.
_ Cven xSirad vapelirebT
demokratiul
faseulobebze,
principebze. ganvlili
periodis magaliTebi
cxadyofs, rom
nebismieri xelisufleba
calkeul kompromisebze
sakmaod rTulad modis.
metic, diametralurad
gansxvavebulia xolme
maTi poziciebi
opoziciaSi yofnisas da
absoluturad sxva aris
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis
Semdeg. radgan es
qronikul daavadebad
iqca, amas mizezic unda
hqondes. ra aris amis
umTavresi mizezi da
rogor unda
vumkurnaloT mas?
_ nebismieri politikuri
rac Seexeba kiTxvas,
rogor unda vumkurnaloT?
unda vumkurnaloT procesSi
monawileobiT, mxolod kritikiT ar unda viyoT dakavebulebi da unda SevecadoT,
monawileobiTac viqonioT
gavlena procesze. Tumca,
paralelurad, mniSvnelovania, movaxdinoT mosaxleobis,
sxvadasxva interesTa jgufebis informireba da mobilizeba, raTa gadawyvetilebis
mimRebebi mixvdnen, rom am
sakiTxebis ukan ara calkeuli arasamTavrobo organizaciis, aramed sazogadoebis interesi dgas.
zviad devdariani:
`jer isev
postsabWoTa
sazogadoebis
maxasiaTeblebiT
varT savse~
organizaciis amocanaa, movides xelisuflebaSi, mosvlis
Semdeg ki es gadaiqceva
amocanad _ SeinarCunos xelisufleba. Tu es `TamaSis
wesebis~, kanonis dacviT xdeba, _ kanonzomierebaa, Tumca
samwuxaro swored isaa, rom,
rogorc wesi, winasaarCevnod
`met demokratias~ gvpirdebian da arCevnebis Semdeg, am
danapirebis Sesruleba aravis
surs.
magaliTisTvis moviyvandi,
TviTmmarTvelobis reformisa da sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis sameurveo sabWos SerCevis procesebs. es aris calsaxad mniSvnelovani ori sakiTxi, romelTa aqtualizeba
axali xelisuflebis pirobebSi moxda, risTvisac qebis sityvebs ar daviSurebdi. Tumca, inicireba sakmarisi ar
aris da aRmoCnda, rom xelisufleba mzad aris, politikuri gavlenebisgan, centralizebisgan gaaTavisuflos is sferoebi, sadac amis
aranairi aucilebloba ar
arsebobs, sadac swored `meti
demokratiaa~ saWiro.
_ ganvlili ori aTeuli
wlis ganmavlobaSi
dasavleTma sxvadasxva
fondebisa Tu
programebis meSveobiT
sakmaod didi saxsrebi
daxarja CvenTan imisTvis,
rom mniSvnelovan
sakiTxebSi
gavrkveuliyaviT. sxva Tu
araferi, faseulobiTi
Sedarebebis saSualeba
mogvca. magram am
yvelaferSi umTavresi
iyo mudmivi mesiji _
adamianis uflebebi.
rogor fiqrob, ratom
xdeba, rom nebismieri
tribunidan, nebismieri
persona, xazgasmiT
deklarirebs adamianis
uflebebze, xolo
qveyanaSi, visac
gauxardeba, yvela
cdilobs, sxvadasxva
xerxebiTa da formebiT
Seilaxos es uflebebi?
_ mTavari problema, albaT, mainc informaciis arqona da ganaTlebis problemaa.
xSirad ar viciT da swored
es xdeba imis mizezi, rom sxvis uflebas vlaxavT. Tumca,
es araa erTaderTi mizezi. xelisuflebebs rom Tavi davaneboT, sayofacxovrebo donezec ki, naklebad vcdilobT
sxvisi uflebis aRiarebas.
umeteswilad sakuTari Tavis
irgvliv vtrialebT. ar vuTmobT gzas sxva avtomobils,
vaCerebT transports fexiT
mosiaruleTa sivrceSi, vakeTebT ukanono miSenebebs da
sul ar gvainteresebs mezoblebis azri, vWriT mwvane
nargavebs da vabinZurebT
garemos. ra gasakviria, rom,
roca rigiTi moqalaqeebi ase
viqceviT, am adamianebis xelisuflebaSi
mosvlis
Semdgomac ar icvleba principulad Cveni saqcieli. jer
ar gvaxasiaTebs Semdgari saxelmwifos
sazogadoebis
Tvisebebi, jer isev postsabWoTa sazogadoebis maxasiaTeblebiT varT savse.
Tumca, maxarebs, rodesac
vxedav, igive samoqalaqo sazogadoebis organizaciebi,
individebi, rogor icaven umciresobebis uflebebs da ar
eridebian, rom garkveulwilad riskzec wavidnen. rac
ufro meti iqneba im adamianTa raodenoba, romlebsac
gacnobierebuli eqnebaT, rom
mxolod sakuTari uflebebisTvis ki ara, sxvisi uflebisTvisac
Rirs
brZola,
vfiqrob, am uflebebis garantirebisTvis xelisuflebac
mets gaakeTebs.
_ dabolos, rogor
fiqrob, ra aris imis
mizezi, rom nebismieri
saxelisuflebo
cvlilebis Semdeg
calkeuli
sazogadoebrivi
organizaciebi
Zalisxmevas ar iSureben
xelisuflebasTan
dasamegobreblad da
arian mis qeba-didebaSi.
Tumca arc is
dagvaviwydes, rom, Tu
sakuTar miznebs ver
miaRwies Semdeg iwyeba
omi xelisuflebis
winaaRmdeg. arsebobs
standarti, ra
`manZilzea~ dasaSvebi
aseTi organizaciebis
xelisuflebasTan
miaxloeba?
_ yvela xelisuflebis
pirobebSi arian samoqalaqo
organizaciebi, romlebic
metad an naklebad arian xelisuflebasTan `daaxloebulebi~, arian miukerZoeblebic. arian iseTebic, romlebic pirdapir xelisuflebaze muSaoben. amis garCeva
rTuli araa da saqarTvelos
tipis patara qveyanaSi es advilad identificirebadia.
rogorc wesi, donorebi
damoukidebel organizaciebs
uWeren mxars, vinaidan isini
samoqalaqo organizaciebSi
swored xelisuflebis makontroleblebs xedaven da ara
xelisuflebis lobistebs.
calke sakiTxia is, rom
xSirad xelisuflebasTan
daaxloeba-ardaaxloeba eSlebaT samoqalaqo organizaciebis tipebSi. arseboben
servisis mimwodeblebi, kvleviT/analitikuri da e.w. meTvalyure organizaciebi (WATH
DOG). bunebrivia, es meTvalyureebi ufro Canan kidec da
ufro met oponirebaSi arian
xelisuflebasTan, vinaidan
ZiriTadad uflebebis sferoSi saqmianoben. da is, rom
servisis mimwodebeli, an analitikuri organizaciebi naklebad Canan, an nakleb
oponirebaSi arian xelisuflebasTan, ar niSnavs imas,
rom isini xelisuflebasTan
arian daaxloebulebi. samive
am tipis organizaciis arseboba aucilebelia, rom moqalaqeebis saWiroebebis sfero srulad iyos dafaruli
samoqalaqo seqtoris mxridan.
premieri
premieri
xuTSabaTi,13-19
13-19marti,
marti,2014
2014
#10
#10
(027)
(027) xuTSabaTi,
17
`W memkvidreoba~, anu rogor xnavs
rusuli Zala dasavlur aRmarTs
daviT avaliSvili
a
m avismomaswavebel
dReebSi
yvelaze
saintereso,
Cemi azriT,
ara uSualod
yirimSi ganviTarebuli
movlenebi (iq
moulodneli araferi
xdeba), aramed
dasavlur telearxebze
gaCaRebuli diskusiebia
imis Taobaze, `ra uyon
ruseTs~ da rogor
moiqces evro-amerikuli
Tanamegobroba,
rodesac moskovi
pirdapir,
mourideblad saxeSi
afurTxebs im
civilizacias, romelsac
(fukuiamas briyvuli
Teoriis Sesabamisad),
komunizmis aRsasruliT
istoria dasrulebuli
egona, civi omi ki _
mogebuli.
rogorc vxedavT, erTma
Cveulebrivma, saSualo niWisa
da inteleqtis `kgb-Snikma~
putinma mTeli maTi filosofia da msoflaRqma Tavdayira daayena.
dasavlur telearxebze ki
(malaiziuri TviTmfrinavis
`idumali
gauCinarebis~
Sesaxeb gauTavebeli msjelobis SualedebSi) im kategoriis subieqtTa namdvili
`doRia~, gasuli saukunis
boroti genia, vladimer
ulianov-lenini
rom
`sasargeblo
idiotebs~
uwodebda. Turme nu ityviT
da ruseTis winaaRmdeg savizo sanqciebis SemoReba ar
SeiZleba, raki... `bolo wlebSi rusi turistebis ricxvi 6
milionidan 36 milionamde
gaizarda da es seriozulad
exmareba dasavlur civilizacias, daZlios finansuri
krizisi~.
TiTqos yvelaferi rigzea,
araferi momxdara, olimpiadac unda gaimarTos soWSi
da, saerTod, ruseTTan Business as Usual, SesaZloa, putini kidec dafiqrebuliyo,
Rirda Tu ara ukrainasTan
igives gameoreba. magram rom
ar eyoT arc amis Sno, arc
amis Zala, unari da Segneba,
Tundac samomavlo Tavdacvis instinqti?
axla ukve rigaSi (latviaSi!!!) imarTeba demonstraciebi lozungiT: mxars vuWerT
yirimis ruseTis SemadgenlobaSi Sesvlas. xval igive xalxi
sxva lozungiT gamova,
amerikam da nato-m ki isRa
gabedes jerjerobiT baltiis zRvis Tavze 4 aviagamanadgureblis nacvlad... 6 dafrinavs!
sasaciloa (satirali rom
ar iyos), magram diskusiaSic
ki ugeben rusebi: `aba, Tqven
rom kosovo aRiareT, is kargi iyo?~
`
anu, im civilizaciis
bedi, romelsac Tavi
sakacobrio liderad
moaqvs, misi romauli
memkvidreobiT, misi
qristianobiT, danteTi
da SeqspiriT, veniTa da
pariziT, londoniTa
da niu-iorkiT, Turme
rus turistebze yofila
damokidebuli da Tu
rusebi iq aRar (veRar)
Cavlen, `absoluts~ aRar
iyidian, es civilizacia
daiRupeba mTeli Tavisi
kapelebiTa da
tauerebiT!
`
londonis `sitim~ mkacrad
ganacxada: `aranair finansur
sanqciebs ruseTis sawinaaRmdegod ar daveTanxmebiT,
raki es seriozulad dagvazaralebso~. gamodis, marTlebi yofilan is rusi cinikosebi, 2008 wlis Semdeg rom
ambobdnen: `evropul Rirebulebebs gasaTbobad rusuli
gazi sWirdebaT, Torem gaiyinebiano~. Tanac, 2008 wlisgan gansxvavebiT, amjerad is
komfortic aRar aqvT, yvelaferi
isev
ukrainas
daabralon: aki ukrainelebi
Cvenze ufro `Wkvianurad~
iqcevian, TiTs ar atokeben
da mxolod uyureben, rogor
miaqvs ruseTs yirimi.
* * *
realurad ra SeuZlia
dasavleTs? rogorc aRmoCnda, arc araferi: savizo sanqciebis SemoRebas jerjerobiT mxolod CinosanTa viwro
wris (davakvirdeT: da ara
maTi ojaxis wevrTa) winaaRmdeg Tu bedavs, magram isini
rogorme gaZleben amerikuli
`
da evropuli vizebis gareSe.
putini gaaZlebinebT.
namdvilad mwvave dartyma
iqneboda mTeli rusuli
istebliSmentisa da maTi SvilikoebisTvis analogiuri
SezRudvis daweseba, magram
amas ver bedaven.
rac Seexeba ekonomikur
sanqciebsa da angariSebis
gayinvas: putins, sapasuxod,
SeuZlia ruseTSi dasavluri
investiciebis nacionalizacia. ra dauSlis?
`
Zalian gulubryvilo
unda iyo, geimedebodes:
dasavlur bankebSi rus
biznesmenTa da rusuli
korporaciebis avuarebi
gaiyineba, xolo am
dros moskovi xels ar
axlebs, magaliTad,
britiS petroliumis
qonebas ruseTis
teritoriaze. `xels
axlebs~ ki ara,
bdRvirs adens!
`
es Zalian kargad ician
imave londonsa da parizSi.
amitomac iTreven fexs. safrangeTis prezidenti olandi acxadebs, rom `mainc~ mihyidis ruseTs vertmfrenmzid `mistrals~. aba, aTasobiT
frang muSas uxelfasod xom
ar datovebs? amerikelebi ki
imas arkveven, ubralod,
daemTxva Tu winaswari ganzraxviT daamTxvia putinma
sakanonmdeblo iniciativa
ukrainaSi jaris gamoyenebis
Sesaxeb prezident obamas iniciativas siriaSi Zalis SesaZlo gamoyenebis Taobaze.
SesaniSnavi eqspertebi
hyavT da ician:
`
roca saqme ruseTs
exeba, mosalodneli
danakargis nebismieri
kalkulacia sabolood
imisTan midis, rom
moskovma SeiZleba
balistikuri raketebi
gadasces irans an sulac
`birTvuli iaraRis
gauvrceleblobis~
xelSekrulebidan
gavides da imave irans
pirdapir atomuri
bombi aCuqos. albaT,
xSirad Tavadac
imeoreben abezar
kiTxvas: ra dauSlis
putins, Tuki kuTxeSi
miayeneben, swored ase
moiqces? pasuxi: arc
araferi!
`
* * *
yovelive amis miuxedavad,
2008 wlis Semdeg dasavleTi
ise rom ar moqceuliyo,
bolos da bolos,
movida dro, iTqvas:
ramdenadac
maniakaluria putinis
daJineba yirimTan
dakavSirebiT, asjer
amaze maniakaluri da
idioturi iyo jorj
buS-umcrosis daJineba
kosovos
damoukidelobis
Taobaze. TiTqos, amis
gareSe, kosovoel
albanelTa
usafrTxoebis dacvas iq
Seyvanili nato-s jarebi
ver moaxerxebdnen.
`
putini sakuTari qveynis
interesebs mainc icavs da
istoriulad rusul teritoriebs ibrunebs, amerikam
ra miiRo kosovos precedentis SeqmniT? mxolod problemebi! oRond ufro metad
sxvebisTvis (maT Soris
saqarTvelosTvis da evropisTvis), raki kosovodan
amerikamde metismetad Soria.
`
amerikelma
reJisorma, oliver
stounma 2008 wels
gamosul filmSi, (W.))
iwinaswarmetyvela, rom
buSTa dinastiis
umcrosi
warmomadgenlis
`inteleqtualuri
memkvidreoba~ kidev
didxans daetyoboda
msoflios da uamrav
qveyanas daaqcevda.
rogorc Cans, didi
xelovanis geniiT
ganWvrita.
`
18 premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
#10 (027)
reportaJi galidan `golodomoramde~
ra xdeba okupirebuli afxazeTis aqeT da iqiT?!
eka gulua
Tamar belqania
q
arTuli
policiis
saguSago... e.w.
blokposti da
Slagbaumi
warweriT
`STOP~.
adamianebi CvilebiT,
bargi-barxaniT.
megruli saubari,
cxenebi `taWkiT~.
blokpostTan
samarSruto taqsebidan
da manqanebidan
mgzavrebi Camodian,
micvalebulic ki
Camoasvenes.
Wirisufalic adgilzea,
mosTqvamen. didi
moZraobaa, mxolod
qveiTebis. SigadaSig
manqanebic gadadian, ABH
sanomre niSniT.
blokpostis erT mxares
saqarTvelosa da
evrokavSiris droSa
frialebs, meore
mxares ki - mxolod
afxazuri.
aq okupirebuli afxazeTi
iwyeba.
qarTuli policiis saguSagos da `STOP postis~
Semdeg e.w. blokposti unda
gaiaro, barikadebiT. iaro,
iaro, iaro, isev barikadebi
gxvdeba da ai, gamoCnda grZeli xidi. guliscema Cqardeba, SiSi mainc oxeria. ufro
Sors, xidis bolos ki `imaTi~
droSa frialebs, iq rusi
samxedroebi dganan. rusuli
blokpostis iqiT ki mxolod
is gadadis, visac an iqauri
pasporti aqvs, afxazeTis moqalaqea an miwveva aqvs. mosaxleobis udidesi nawili ki
(orive mxridan) mowyvetilia
sanaTesaos, saaxloblos,
saflavebs, radgan maT afxazuri an rusuli pasportebi
ar gaaCniaT.
erTi `postidan~ meoremde
`oZvaled ginirT afxazeTiq~
manZili erTi kilometria.
arc ise Soria afxazeTamde
da es erTi dRe afxazeTSi
uqmad ar Caivlis... mivadeqiT
gamyof xids. komunistebisdroindeli lampionis boZebi isev SemorCenilia, etyoba,
rom xidi adre, 20-25 wlis
winaT, sanam omianoba daiwyeboda, mSvidobian periodSi
lurjad iyo SeRebili. axla
ki mxolod SigadaSig amCnevia atyavebuli, aqerclili
lurji saRebavi. xids xavsi
da Jangi Wams. dabzaruli
xidis abra ki isev Zveleburad
iuwyeba, rom `ÌÎÑÒ ×ÅÐÅÇ
ÐÅÊÓ ÈÍÃÓÐÈ ÏÎÑÒÐÎÅÍ
ÄÎÐÎÆÍÈÌÈ
×ÀÑÒÀÌÈ
ÂÎÈÑÊ ÌÂÄ ÑÑÑÐ 1940~ _ ase
SevediT xavsmokidebul sabWoTa kavSirSi...
gagvimarTla. moxerxda,
rom rusul blokpostTan
sakmaod axlos mivdivarT.
mgzavrebiT datvirTuli
urmebi, ucnauri motocikletebic midian da modi-
an. iclebian, ivsebian da isev
gadadian da gadmodian.
neta, es xidi ar Caingreodes, _ vfiqrob CemTvis...
ai, erTi uremic gamoCnda,
lurji `tentiT~. iq, sadac
mgzavrebi sxedan, tentia
Camofarebuli.
TiTqos
imalebian.
erTi wuTiT gaaCereT, ra....
_ raSia saqme?
_ rogor xarT, ra xdeba
iqiT?
_ eh... es Tqven Cemze kargad iciT (ambobs meetle).
_ dReSi ramdenjer gadadixarT am xids?
_ bevrjer... daaxloebiT
10-jer. enguris xididan
movdivar. `Soferi~ var da
xalxi damyavs.
_ iqiT ra xdeba?
_ situacia `narmalna~,
kargad aris yvelaferi
(eRimeba)... midian, modian. mgzavris gadayvana 2 maneTi
Rirs. xalxi blomad dadis,
arauSavs ise. Cven `Soferebs~
pasportebi ar gvaqvs da amitom xidis TavTan Slagbaumamde mivdivarT, sadac afxazeTi iwyeba. postamde. meti
iqiT ver mivdivarT.
`tenti~ gadavwie da mgzavrebTan SeviWyite. saxeze maSinve xels ifareben, zogma
svitris sayelo aifara saxeze.
_ rogor xarT, romel
sofelSi midixarT? _ vekiTxebi, pasuxad _ dumili.
ai, fexiTac gadmodian.
mgoni, es ojaxia. mamakaci,
qalbatoni 2 patara bavSviT.
_ romel sofelSi iyaviT?
_ axla maT miveWeri.
_ galSi, kaco. ra xdeba?
_ mSvidobaa iqiT? rodis
waxvediT, risTvis iyaviT?
_ mSoblebi cxovroben iq
da davdivarT (midis, mivdev)...
_ erTi wuTiT ver gaCerdebiT?
_ ai, iqiT gaixede (Sematri-
ala okupirebuli afxazeTisken, sadac droSa frialebs). ai, mwvane balaxebiT
dafarul raRacas xedav?
_ diax, vxedav da iqidanac
mxedaven...
_ ai, iqidanac rom
gviyureben, es aris problema... me aq xSirad davdivar,
Tqven moxvediT da waxvalT.
mere rom mkiTxon, ra uTxari, aseo da iseo. ra vuTxra?
_ kargad... (wavida).
Sevtrialdi iqiT, saidanac isini mxedaven. Cans is
mowyobilobebi, romelic
ramdenime adgilasaa damontaJebuli da gvakontroleben. xels vuqnev... etyoba, rom
kargad mxedaven. iqidanac
periodulad raRac anaTebs,
TvalSi mxvdeba... albaT, fotoebsac iReben...
xidze 2 axalgazrda gogona modis, Cvili mohyavT.
axla maTTan mivedi, iqneb
miTxran rame, ra uWirT, ra
ulxinT...
_ gamarjoba, saidan modixarT?
_ iqidan...
_ iq cxovrobT Tu stumrad iyaviT?
_ afxazi var.
_ Zalian kargi, stumrad
midixarT?
_ ara, bavSvi damyavs masaJebze?
_ sad, zugdidSi?
_ ki, zugdidSi, ufasod
gvikeTeben.
_ masaJisTvis afxazeTidan
zugdidSi dadixarT?
_ ki, asea. masaJisTvis ki
ara, yvelafrisTvis aqeT
davdivarT...
_ kviraSi ramdenjer?
_ rogorc movaxerxebT.
orjer, samjer.
_ iq, afxazeTSi, ar keTdeba masaJebi?
_ ara, ar ician, Tan iq Tu
rame keTdeba, cecxlis fasi
adevs.
_ giWirT, albaT, CviliT
xelSi kviraSi ramdenjerme
fexiT erTi kilometris gavla. blokpostamde xom
transportiT midixarT?
_ afxazeTidan rusul postamde transportiT, mere
fexiT da qarTuli postidan
zugdidamde isev transportiT. zogjer, roca fuli
gvaqvs, am postzec cxeniT
gavdivarT, magram Zviri gamodis. Tu 2 adamiani gadmovalT, sadRac 17 lari jdeba
erTi gza.
Wirisuflis tirili ismis...
micvalebuls miasveneben.
xidze gadamsvlel-gadmomsvlelebi Cerdebian da Tavs
xrian.
_ icnobdiT? _ vekiTxebi
erT-erT gadmomsvlels.
_ ara, magram ager gavige,
TbilisSi hyavdaT samkurnalod wayvanili... `onafa va
uWiSes... droze wayvana ver
mouswriaT, _ CaerTo meore
qalbatoni...
_ afxazeTSi ver mkurnaloben?
_ afxazeTSi vin ra icis.
Tu seriozuli rame gWirs,
ruseTSi unda waxvide samkurnalod an TbilisSi. ruseTSi
magari fuli unda gqondes,
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
TbilisSi ufasoa (Tan midis,
Tan vsaubrobT, cdilobs,
Tavidan momiSoros).
_ samkurnalod bevri Cadis TbilisSi, ZviradRirebul operaciebsac ukeTeben,
ukan dabrunebulebs problema xom ar eqmnebaT?
_ axla, kaco, yvelaferi me
unda giTxra? ginda damxvtiron? _ wavida.
isev uremi gamoCnda. stafilosferi tentiT. gavaCere,
`Sofers~
Camovujeqi.
wavediT...
_ dReSi daaxloebiT ramdeni adamiani gadaadgildeba engurs iqiT da aqeT?
_ ooo. gaaCnia, xan ise, xan
ase. albaT, 250-300 adamiani.
wvalobs xalxi.
_ cota nela iareT, rom
saubaric SevZloT...
_ me raze unda dagelaparakoT... ar minda... yvelaferi
kontroldeba.
_ stumrad midixarT, Tu?
_ Sevyavi Tavi, sadac mgzavrebi sxedan. _ zogs cocxebi miaqvs, zogs ra da zogs
ra. magram, sruli dumili.
pasuxs aravin iZleva.
_ ra unda giTxran, kaco,
_ agrZelebs isev `Soferi~...
_ mainteresebs, rogor
cxovroben, axalgazrdoba
ras akeTebs, dasaqmeba, ganaTleba, ganviTareba Tu ar-
sebobs iq... _ axla saubars
meetlesTan vagrZeleb. tenti CamoSvebulia. xidze gadavdivarT da sacaa rusebis
kontrolirebad teritoriasac mivadgebiT...
_ `Tena mi re~ (megr.: es vin
aris?), va uCquno Teq muWo
wvalena... arZaq genarkkoman...
ZRabebq, bosebq... sodga iSinq
es (ar icis, iq rogor
wvaloben... yvela ganarkonamda... gogonebi, biWebi. es yvelgan iSoveba...)... _ iwyebs
saubars erTi qalbatoni.
_ `oZ-
valed ginirT afxazeTiq (samarxad gadaiqca afxazeTi)...
_ agrZelebs meore...
_ va Tqua muTun, irfel
uCquna do fuluna (ar Tqva
araferi, yvelaferi ician da
malaven), _ awyvetinebs mesame...
rusul postsac mivuaxlovdiT... urmidan Camovxti.
mgzavrebi daicalnen... kontroli gaiares da afxazeTSi gadavidnen. cxeni motrialda, zugdidisken momavali
mgzavrebi Caisva. fexiT
movdivar xidze.
_ iq ratom ar gadadixar,
kaco, iq unda naxo, rac xdeba, _ momiaxlovda da momaZa-
xa meetlem...
_ gadamiSveben?
_ Tu rusuli pasporti
gaqvs, gagiSveben. ise, Jurnalistebi ainteresebs imaT, SeiZleba arc gamogiSvan... uSiSroebaSi
wagaTreven...
gagawvaleben...
_ margaluri giCquno? _
isev meetle.
_ qo...
_ aTaq Txiroba iin Tinwkuma morTi do Zirunq
saswauls (aq Txilis sezonze
19
modi da saswaulebs naxav)...
xididan kargad Cans, rom
meTevzeebi fexiT tye-tye
gadadian, mxarze Semodebuli
ankesi iaraRiviT aqvT moRerebuli, isinic gavidnen...
SavebSi Cacmuli moxucebi
modian... isev afxazeTidan.
axla maT miveWeri:
_ Tqva mi zojunT (Tqven
vin brZandebiT)?
_ Jurnalisti var, mainteresebs, rogor cxovrobT,
ra giWirT, ra gilxinT...
_ gaWirveba imdenia, magram
laparaki ras Svelis... ager,
gadaiyvanes, xelfass gadagixdiTo da amuSaves is kaci
viriviT. 3 kaci gadavida, 8
Svili hyavda im kacs da ra
unda eqna, fuls viSovio da
wavida samuSaod. aSenebda
raRacas da kidev 2 biWi waiyvana. miSe ragadanq boS (visze
laparakob, kaco?) _ ekiTxeba
meore.
_ is, kaco, raulis siZe...
_ aaa. sawyali...
_ ra moxda? _ isev me.
_ ra moxda da fuli rom
ar misces, is kido iTxovda,
gadamixadeo. eseni usabuToebi iyvnen, afxazma
gadaiyvana. 3 Tve amuSava, mere
fulis gadaxda rom ar undoda, policias Caabara,
gadmoparulebi ariano da
iyo erTi ambebi. iqiT mouwia
mis ojaxs fulis Sovna da
gagzavna, ukan rom dabrunebuliyo is kaci cocxali. ai,
es xdeba.
bneldeba, ukve ukan dabrunebis droa. kidev erTi
etli gadmodis afxazeTidan.
vcdilob, gadmomsvlelebs
kidev erTxel davelaparako.
_ afxazeTSi cxovrobT?
_ otobaiadan var. dedaCemTan viyavi.
_ xSirad dadixarT?
_ ara, ras ambob... xSirad
marto pasportianebi gadadian da visac saSualeba aqvs.
pirvelad gadavedi. 12 welia,
deda ar minaxavs... _ tirils
iwyebs.
_ ratom ver moaxerxeT
Casvla?
_ ar mqonda imaTi pasporti. dedaCemi ise cudadaa,
rom ar gadavsuliyavi, Tavs
moviklavdi. sawyali. Cavardnilia, wevs. es ra cxovrebaaa... didi wvalebiT gadavedi. aucileblad unda menaxa,
sanam mokvdeba... fexiT gadasasvleli SemovliTi gzac
arsebobs, magram zamTarSi
SeuZlebelia
gadasvla,
mdinarea gadasasvleli. es
cxovrebaa. `fui iSmeti~, _
agrZelebs megrulad.
_ samkurnalod aqeT xom
gadmodian, ver moxerxda
gadmoyvana?
_ awi imis wamoyvanas ra
azri aqvs, Svilo, im sawyals
awi araferi eSveleba... _
Suaxnis qalbatoni acremlebuli Camodis etlidan da xeljoxiT agrZelebs gzas
zugdidisken.
danarCenebic Camovidnen
etlidan. `ki, asea, Svilo~, _
meubneba imave etlidan Camosuli meore, SavebSi Cacmuli
qalbatoni. `CvenianebisTvis
iqiT gadasvla SeuZlebelia.
ar arian iqauri moqalaqeebi.
Svili dedasTan rom ver Cadis da momakvdavs naxulobs,
esaa cxovreba? gayofilia
ojaxebi, ver vnaxulobT erTmaneTs. ki gavida 20 weli, Cems
tolebs yvelaferi kargad
axsovT, magram Sens `pakalenies~ ar axsovs araferi da
maTTvis afxazeTi gadmocemiT arsebobs. iseTi kargi
afxazi mezoblebi, megobrebi
gvyavda. sad arian? gaaqres
yvela. gaqrnen afxazebi, cotani arian. Cemi soxumi...~
sazRvrispira sofelSi
yvela frTxilobda CvenTan
saubrisas, Tumca yvelas surda Cveni mosmena. ainteresebT,
ra xdeba aqeT, Cven ki piriqiT.…
mze didi xnis Casuli iyo,
rodesac ukan viwyeT svla,
meetles xidamde unda miveyvaneT... swored misgan SevityveT, rom aq Turme am marxils Sebmuli cxenebi mxolod
erT kviras Zleben, amdeni
tvirTis Trevasa da fizikur
datvirTvas ver uZleben.
cxenebs cvlian, radgan
afxazeTidan xalxi samegreloSi saWmlis maragis gadasatanad intensiurad gadmodis, Tu arada iq siduxWires
SimSilic daemateba.
P.S. `golodomori~ gagvaxsenda da Tbilisamde arc
aravis amogviRia xma. stalinis politikiT ukrainis
dasamorCileblad iq sagangeboda daigegma SimSili, ise,
rom adamiani adamianis xorciT ikvebeboda. SimSilma
icis es.
20 premieri
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#10 (027)
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
ZiriTadi tendencia
putinis ukrainuli azarti; ramde
zurab RoRoberiZe
r
useTis
prezidentma,
rogorc
iqna, gaxsna
banqo
ukrainul
TamaSSi: sagareo
saqmeTa ministr
lavrovTan
Sexvedrisas putinma
yuradRebiT moismina
mTavari rusi
diplomatis moxseneba,
rom moskovi amzadebs
sapasuxo winadadebebs
yirimis (anu ukrainis)
krizisuli situaciis
`daregulirebis~
Taobaze.
es amazrzeni termini _
`daregulireba~ _ gasuli
saukunis 90-iani wlebis
ubadrukobidan Semogvepara enaSi, magram, raoden
paradoqsulic ar unda
iyos, semantikurad sakmaod
zustad asaxavs mimdinare
procesis arss:
`
vladimer putini,
rogorc aRmoCnda,
vaWrobs da sulac ar
aris gamoricxuli,
yirimis ruseTTan
uSualod mierTebaze
uari Tqvas im
pirobiT, Tu kievSi
SarSandel
seqtembramde arsebul
status kvos
aRadgens.
`
anu, putin-lavrovis winadadeba Semdegia: yirimSi
tardeba referendumi, mosaxleobis udidesi umravlesoba xmas aZlevs ruseTis federaciasTan mierTebas, amiT `Sewuxebuli~
`
moskovi ki mzadaa,
wavides kompromisze
da uari Tqvas
anSlusze im pirobiT,
Tu
1) moxdeba ukrainis
federalizacia;
2) SemuSavdeba ukrainis
axali konstitucia,
romlis ZaliTac,
ukraina mxolod im
SemTxvevaSi moawers
xels evropasTan
asocirebis
xelSekrulebas (natoze xom saerTod
aRaraa laparaki), Tu
momavali federaciis
yvela subieqti
dasTanxmdeba amas;
3) yirimsa da
aRmosavleT ukrainis
regionebs eniWebaT
realuri avtonomia,
rac, kremlis gagebiT,
imas niSnavs, rom,
magaliTad, rubli
grivnasTan
gaTanabrdeba;
4) rusuli ena,
ukrainulTan erTad,
ukrainis mTel
teritoriaze meore
saxelmwifo enad
cxaddeba, rac
realurad ukrainuli
enis saxelmwifo
statusis dasrulebas
niSnavs, _ Tu enobriv
realiebsa da
tradiciebs
gaviTvaliswinebT.
`
ai, am pirobebis miRebis
SemTxvevaSi, ruseTi `didsulovnad ar daeTanxmeba~
yirimis anSluss. es gegma
amerikelebs ukve magidaze
udevT da aucileblad
iqneba ganxiluli obamasTan premier-ministr
iaceniukis momavali Sexvedris dros.
ramdenad
awyobT
amerikelebsa da evropelebs? ratomac ara?
`
gansakuTrebiT
qalbatoni merkeli
iqneba gaxarebuli da
yvelanairad Seecdeba,
evropeli kolegebi
daarwmunos, rom
amiT evropa `saxesac
SeinarCunebs~ da omsac
Tavidan aicilebs.
`
Tan,
formalurad(!)
ukrainis teritoriuli
mTlianobac ar dairRveva,
isev da isev im azriT,
rogorc
saqarTvelos
teritoriuli mTlianoba
`ar iyo darRveuli~ 19942008 wlebSi.
marTlac, putinis samizne xom mTeli ukrainaa da
ara yirimi? Tu ukrainis
federalizacias miaRwevs
da mis evropul orbitaze
gadasvlas gamoricxavs,
sulac ar epitnaveba saerTaSoriso problemebi mxolod yirimis gamo. aseT
SemTxvevaSi, kompromisi
kidec SeiZleba Sedges,
xolo yirimuli referendumis Sedegi darCeba saTadarigo variantad: `rame
rom iyos~ samomavlo
gamoyenebisTvis.
aq mTavari kiTxvaa, daeTanxmeba Tu ara amgvar
kompromiss ukrainis axali
xelisufleba, romelic
`maidanze~ airCia xalxma.
ruseTi sulac ar apirebs,
daiJinos yovelmxriv yavlgasuli ianukoviCis dabruneba politikaSi: Wirsac
wauRia ianukoviCi, _ es gakotrebuli mZori, _ mTavaria, axali ukrainis konfiguracia da kievze
(aramxolod
yirimze)
zemoqmedebis samomavlo
berketebi.
* * *
dRevandel ukrainel
liderebsa da, mTlianobaSi, ukrainul istebliSments ki, _ Tu davakvirdebiT, ra xdeba ukrainuli
samxedro
nawilebis
garSemo yirimSi, _ sulac
ar etyobaT neba, omi dauwyon ruseTs mxolod im
mizniT, rom evrokavSirTan
asocirebis xelSekrulebas
miaRwion da ukrainis federalizeba ar dauSvan.
SesaZloa, es daskvna
gadaWarbebulic
aRmoCndes da STabeWdileba
araswori iyos, magram ra
vqnaT, namdvilad ar Canan
arc iaceniuki, arc timoSenko da arc Tundac
kliCko stepan banderasa
da roman SuxeviCis masStabis (rac mTavaria, maTi
mentalobis) figurebi,
amgvar `kompromissa~ da
`saxis SenarCunebis~ gulmowyale SeTavazebas ar
dasTanxmdnen.
`
putini rom Zalian
Wkviani da cbieri
politikosia, aqedanac
Cans: Tu ukrainam
yirimi
formaluradac
dakarga, maSin axal,
`revoluciur~
xelisuflebas
aucileblad mouwevs
pasuxi gasces
ukrainelTa didi
umravlesobis kiTxvas:
`ramdenad arian
swored isini da
maTi `maidani~
pasuxismgebeli imaze,
rom qveyanam
teritoriis Zalze
mniSvnelovani nawili
dakarga, Tanac,
dakarga
samudamod?!
`
xom faqtia: im `korumpirebuli postsabWouri
elitis~
dros
(anu
kravCukis, kuCmas, ianukoviCis mmarTvelobisas) yirimi ukrainis organuli
nawili iyo: saqmis warmoeba iq ukrainulad mimdinareobda, rubli Ria
brunvaSi ar WaWanebda, saxelmwifo dawesebulebebis
Tavze ukrainuli droSebi
frialebda da aranairi
`sazRvari~
perikopis
yelTan ar arsebobda.
axla ki?
es ar aris martivi sakiTxi: jer kidev safrangeTis didi revoluciidan
moyolebuli Camoyalibda
`naciis~ TviTdadgenis ori
aucilebeli piroba: revolucia da sisxlismRvrel
omSi gamarjveba.
mxolod da swored amgvar omSi ibadeba nacia da
Tuki ukrainelebs omi
aSkarad ar surT da arc
SeuZliaT (arada, rogor
ginda, eomo birTvul saxelmwifos, roca dasavleTi londonis `CelsiSi~
abramoviCis investirebul
miliard girvanqas efereba?), maSin imasac unda
Seurigdnen, rom teritoriuli mTlianobis formalurad SenarCunebisa da
omis Tavidan
acvlod moxd
federalizac
ana samudamod
evropasTan a
raki federac
na, moskovis
olod yvel
TanxmobiT Tu
vnelovan sag
tikur gadawy
maSin risT
`zeciuri ase
maidanze?
arc es ki
magram mainc n
anea, vidre
saSviliSvilo
*
am proeqt
cielebis SemT
ni mainc moge
ba. kremlis s
resursebi sak
rusebs auxsna
ar SemoierTa
mTeli ukrain
misi kieviTa
lavriT. ga
amerikis kid
damcireba da
bis demonstr
mareba reitin
saocrad n
ram Tqva pr
ciaze: `ai, iq _
miRma qveyanaS
romeli qve
azriT, `didi
an es `didi w
rasakvirve
tikis okeane
mdebare ameri
li Statebi.
paT
sinamdvil
aris, magr
paTo
sZuls. aba,
okeane
adam
ro
mo
g
cn
namdvili C
`civi g
cxeli
ramdena
misi guli `m
konstantinepolis saeklesio
vin ibrZolebs Tbil
ZiriTadi tendencia
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ZiriTadi tendencia
en xans ijdeba vano merabiSvili?
acilebis sandeba ukrainis
cia da es qveyd ityvis uars
asocirebaze,
ciuli ukraigegmiT, mxa subieqtis
u miiRebs mniSgareo polivetilebebs.
Tvis daiRupa
euli~ kievis
iTxvaa ioli,
nakleb mrisxteritoriis
od dakargva.
* *
tis ganxorTxvevaSi, putiebuli darCesainformacio
kmarisia, raTa
as, rom yirimi
a, samagierod
na daitova! _
da peCoras
arda amisa,
dev erTxel
a misi umweorirebac daexngis awevaSi.
niSandoblivi
reskonferen_ didi wumpis
Sio~.
eyanaa, putinis
wumpis miRma~,
wumpe~ raRaa?
elia, atlanda mis miRma
kis SeerTebu-
`
putini
Tologiao.
leSi, giJi ar
ram amerika
marTla
ologiurad
atlantikis
normalur
mians wumped
ogor unda
ogeCvenos an
gexatebodes
obierebaSi?
Cekistia, anu
onebiTa da
guliT~. da
adac cxelia
mSobliuri
derJavis~
damangreveli amerikis
siZulvilSi, imdenadve
civad, racionalurad
da eSmakurad
moqmedebs, roca banqo
ukve darigebulia.
`
saWadrako analogias aq
nu mivmarTavT, radgan banqo ufro zustad asaxavs
did geopolitikur TamaSs,
rac amJamad gaCaRda, da
romelsac swored banqosTvis (ara WadrakisTvis)
damaxasiaTebeli riski axlavs. Tan iseTi wvrilmanebiT zavdeba, rogoricaa, magaliTad, sastumro
`ukrainis~ Tavze orive mxares msroleli idumali
snaiperebi, an CineTis zRvaSi, maincdamainc axla,
aseve idumalad gauCinarebuli `boing 777~, ris gamoc
msoflio mediis yuradReba ukve aRar aris koncentrirebuli yirimze.
ramdenic ar unda
vilaparakoT konspiraciuli Teoriebis miuReblobaze,
`
roca saqme
putinTan gaqvs,
nebismieri konspiracia
gamarTlebulia
cnobili gamoTqmis
Sesabamisad: `Tu
paranoia gWirT da
geCvenebaT,
giTvalTvaleben, es
sulac ar niSnavs, rom
marTla ar
giTvalTvaleben~.
miT umetes, Tuki
sababi da mizezi aqvT.
yirimsa da ukrainaze
didi `sababi da
mizezi~ ki Znelad
warmosadgenia
`
* * *
ra zegavlena SeiZleba
hqondes ukrainul kriziss
saqarTveloze? pirdapiri
da Zalze mniSvnelovani!
rogorc
ar
unda
damTavrdes yovelive, mixeil saakaSvilma SeiZina
sagareo resursi, raTa
darCes (mainc) qarTul
politikur landSaftze
da ar iqces `pensionerad~.
es ukve cxadia. iseve,
rogorc vano merabiSvilis
bedi: erTaderTi Sansi,
cixidan
gamosuliyo,
evrokavSiris mier asocirebis xelSekrulebis win
oficialuri TbilisisTvis
Sesabamisi moTxovnis wayeneba Tu iqneboda. magram
ukrainuli movlenebi iseT
saerTaSoriso da evropul
koniunqturas qmnis, vano
aRaravis exsomeba!
meore mxriv, saakaSvilis
mzardi aqtivobiT SeSinebul xelisuflebas namdvilad eqneba motivacia,
rac SeiZleba didxans amyofos cixeSi, raki merabiSvilis (iseve, rogorc imave
gundis sxva wevrTa) ganTavisufleba xalxis TvalSi miSas revanSad da dabrunebad aRiqmeba.
`
masis fsiqologia
ki iseTnairadaa
mowyobili,
politikur process
gladiatorTa
brZolad aRiqvams:
sabolood is
aucileblad Zliersa
da warmatebuls
(ufro zustad, vinc
mas `Zlierad~ da
`warmatebulad~
moeCveneba) dauWers
mxars. aqedan
gamomdinare, `saidan
sadao~ TiTqos,
magram... `ukraina~
vanosTvis imas niSnavs,
rom wlobiT cixeSi
yofna garantirebuli
aqvs.
`
* * *
amavdroulad, `ocnebam~
isic gaacnobiera, rom
kart-blanSi sulac ar aqvs.
amitom, Tbilisis sakrebulos (maT Soris `nacionalTagan~ portirebul agresiulad morCil umravlesobas) droulad mianiSnes:
biujeti ar unda CaegdoT,
Tbilisis sakrebulo ar
unda daeSalaT, raki
arCevnebamde ramdenime
kviriT adre TbilisSi centraluri mmarTvelobis
SemoReba xelisuflebas
imijurad ar awyobda.
amitom biujetic damtkicda, Tumca
`
ocneba~ mainc
seriozulad riskavs
imave mizezebis gamo,
rac isev da isev
ukrainas ukavSirdeba:
Tbiliseli
amomrCeveli
tradiciulad yvelaze
metad STabeWdilebebs
eqvemdebareba da
yvelaze naklebad _
administraciul
resurss.
`
Tu ukrainis garSemo
movlenebi zemoaRwerili
kompromisuli scenariT
warimarTa da putinis gamarjveba ise erTmniSvnelovani ar gamoCnda, rogorc
Teoriulad jer kidev SeiZleba iyos, maSin nacionalTa kandidats Sansi
gauCndeba daviT narmaniasTan WidilSi.
viTarebaSi, rodesac
gigi ugulavam merobaze
uari Tqva, yvelaze meti
Sansi giorgi vaSaZes eqneba, Tumca misi resursi SeiZleba sakmarisi ar aRmoCndes gasamarjveblad,
magram
`
gigi ugulavasTvis
sakrebulos wevroba
(es garantirebuli
aqvs, radgan Zneli
warmosadgenia,
`nacionalurma
moZraobam~ barieri
ver gadalaxos)
misTvis SesaniSnavi
placdarmi iqneba
SemdgomSi ufro sxva
masStabis brZolebis
gasamarTad.
`
es dRes Cans TiTqos SeuZleblad, Tumca `nacionalebi~ da TviT gigi ugulavac 2-3-wlian perspeqtivaze Tvlian, rodesac `ocnebis~ devalvacia kidev
ufro TvalnaTeli da arsebiTi gaxdeba. am devalvaciis Tavidan acileba
mxolod
masStaburi
ekonomikuri garRveviT Tu
iqneboda SesaZlebeli, risi
niSnebic jerjerobiT ar
Cans.
* * *
yirimidan stambulSi,
anu istoriul konstantinepolSi: gasul kviras
(arc es unda iyos ubralo
damTxveva), marTlmadidebeli qveynebis patriarqebma miiRes istoriuli gadawyvetileba: pirvelad aTasi wlis(!!!) Semdeg, konstantinepolSi Sedgeba msoflio saeklesio kreba. am
gadawyvetilebas samma yvelaze gavlenianma subieqtma dauWira mxari: konstantinepolis, ierusalimisa
da moskovis patriarqebma.
moskovis mizania, nebismier SemTxvevaSi SeinarCunos poziciebi imave ukrainaSi da ar dauSvas ukrainis
marTlmadidebeli eklesiis raimenairi legitimacia.
yvela gadawyvetileba mxolod konsensusiT iqneba
miRebuli, anu separatistTa ocnebebi `afxazuri eklesiis
avtokefaliis~
Taobaze iluziebad darCeba: saqarTvelos patriarqis Tanxmobis gareSe verc
erTi gadawyvetileba ver
iqneba miRebuli, xolo
qveynis saeklesio erTobas
rom udidesi politikuri
mniSvneloba aqvs, Tundac
iqidan Cans, ra gaafTrebiT
cdiloben separatistebi am
mimarTulebiT warmatebis
miRwevas imdenad, rom
rusuli eklesiis gaRizianebasac ar eridebian.
es resursi saqarTveloSi daufasebelia. arada
`
Tu
gaviTvaliswinebT, ra
mniSvneloba eniWeba
putinis ruseTSi
eklesiis faqtors,
Wkvianuri da
frTxili nabijebis
gadadgmiT Zalian
mniSvnelovani Sedegebi
SeiZleba miviRoT.
politikaSi vaWrobas
ver ascdebi.
erTaderTi
saSualebaa, saerTod
daanebo Tavi
politikas.
`
kreba da afxazuri eklesia;
lisis merobisTvis? ZiriTadi tendencia
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`arsebuli mdgomareoba gvkarnaxobs, aRviqvaT ruseTi,
rogorc Cveni damoukideblobis dauZinebeli mteri!~
ramdenime fundamenturi
Rirebuleba da Cven
SemTxvevaSi ra unda iyos
da aris es Rirebuleba.
goCa mircxulava
p
remieris~
kiTxvebs
mweralma zura
odilavaZem
upasuxa:
_ zura, mogesalmebi,
bolo erTi wlis
ganmavlobaSi
gansakuTrebiT igrZnoba
sazogadoebaSi arsebuli
dapirispireba. TiTqos
gadavagoreT 90-iani
wlebi, arc `vardebis~
periodi iyo, am mxriv,
ia-vardebiT mofenili,
magram axla
gansakuTrebiT igrZnoba
agresia. realurad ras
efuZneba procesi,
ramdenad aris
dapirispireba
RirebulebiTi, Tu amas
sxva procesebi da
garemoebebi
ganapirobebs?
_ dapirispireba marTlac
didia! TviT sazogadoebaa
gansxvavebuli azrisadmi Seuwynarebeli da siZulviliT
gaJRenTili _ is dResac or
mtrul banakad, e.w. `qocebad~
da `nacebad~ aris gaxleCili.
masebis, sabWoeTidan gadmoyolili fsiqologia aseTia:
`vinc Cvens ideologias ar
iziarebs _ is mteria da unda
ganadgurdes~!
swored
koleqtiuri azrovneba hyofs
adamianebs `marTlebad~ da
`xalxis mtrebad~, sxva gradacias koleqtivi, ubralod,
arc ki icnobs.
amgvari midgomis gamo,
`
adamianebi sruliad
kargaven obieqturobas,
radgan ama Tu im
pirovnebis,
politikosisa Tu
adamianTa jgufebis
qmedebebs, ara realuri
saqmeebiTa da sargeblis
motaniT, aramed
partiuli kuTvnilebis
mixedviT afaseben.
_ Tu Rirebulebebze
zogadad
visaubrebT,
CvenTvis es, raRa Tqma unda,
dasavluri, anu qristianul
faseulobebze dafuZnebuli
sistema unda iyos. kerZo
SemTxvevaSi ki, me or fundamentur, CvenTvis metad mniSvnelovan RirebulebiT dapirispirebas gamovyofdi: 1.
dasavleTi _ ruseTi; 2. ganaTleba, Sromis kultura _
warmosaxviTi upiratesoba da
uvicoba, uqnaroba da araprofesionalizmi. ganvmartav, ras vgulisxmob:
`
zura odilavaZe:
`saqarTvelos saxelmwifos mTavari
amocanaa: `borotebis imperiis~
klanWebidan Tavis daRweva~
am sferoSi siZulvilisa Tu
dapirispirebis advili gadatanisa da misi gamoxatvis
SesaZleblobiT. swored amis
gamo ver viklavT wyurvils
politikisa da religiis mimarT _ Cven ara RmerTi,
aramed sxvaze upiratesoba
gvwyuria. Cven boRma da gesli ver davSriteT sakuTar
gulSi. diax, Cven urTierTzizRiTa da SuriT gaJRenTili `ymebis~ eri varT.
axla rac Seexeba CvenTvis
sasicocxlod mniSvnelovan,
marTlac RirebulebiT dapirispirebas. dRes arsebuli
realobidan gamomdinare,
mTavar obieqtur wyalgamyofsa da RirebulebiT bariers,
ruseTTan mimarTeba warmoadgens. swored
zogadad vin unda
moaxdinos agresiis
prevencia da ukve
arsebulis gaqarwyleba?
_ siZulvilis problemas
ori mxare gaaCnia. masebSi
arsebuli dapirispireba,
romelsac individualur
doneze
totalitaruli
azrovnebis stili ganapirobebs, zemoT ukve ganvixileT. axla rac Seexeba xe-
mdgomareobis
daZleva.
igive xdeba individis donezec: adamianSi Cabudebul
`qondris kacs~ pirovnuli
mniSvnelovneba da yovlisSemZleoba swyuria; pirovnebas
sakuTari Zalauflebisa da
agresiis realizebiT, arasrulfasovnebis kompleqsis
demonis gamokveba surs da am
gziT TviTSefasebis aweva.
`
dRevandel
politikur elitas Tu
religiur liderebs
siZulviliT
dakmayofileba, gaZRoma
swyuriaT.
`
imavdroulad, cnobilia,
rom
mtrobis
buneba
gaumaZRaria. amis gamo, sanam
1. me, rogorc
damoukidebeli
saqarTvelos moqalaqe,
mmarTveli Zalis
Sefasebisas vsargeblob
_ mTavari wyalgamyofis
cnebiT da pirvel
rigSi, swored
,,borotebis
imperiisadmi~
damokidebulebiT
vadgen ama Tu im
partiis, politikosisa
Tu religiuri
lideris
avkargianobas.
`
rogorc zemoT aRvniSne,
pirvel rigSi, swored am sakiTxis garSemo unda moxdes
erovnuli SeTanxmeba.
2. upiratesobis SegrZneba dafuZnebulia istoriul-religiur miTebze da
is yoveldRiurad moZRvrebis qadagebiT ikvebeba. `uZve-
` `
es ki nebismieri umsgavsobis gamarTlebas, e.w. `gapravebas~ gulisxmobs. mokled, imisTvis, rom win ufro
swrafi tempebiT wavideT, amgvari
totalitaruli
azrovnebis stili droze
unda davZlioT da Sefasebis
obieqturi kriteriumebiT
vixelmZRvaneloT.
amJamad ki, Cvens Soris
araferia saerTo _ sruli
gaucxoeba da autanloba.
barieris orive mxares _ 20
wlis Cagubebuli zizRi.
_ am yvelafers xom aqvs
mizezi, motivacia...
_ iciT, ratom varT ase
gatacebulni politikiTa da
sarwmunoebiT? gpasuxobT _
ruseTis, rogorc
sakuTari qveynis
dampyroblis aRqma
unda iqces
yovlismomcveli
erovnuli SeTanxmebis
ZiriTad sagnad.
`
_ Zalian xSirad, CvenSi
Tu sazogadoebis
garkveul jgufebSi
Cabudebul agresias
xelisuflebas _ wasuls
Tu amJamindels
vabralebT xolme.
magram aqvs ki
valdebuleba
xelisuflebas, rom
gansazRvros, viyoT Tu
ara loialurni,
momTmenni,
Semwynareblebi. da
lisuflebis rols am procesSi.
meryevi mdgomareobis
SegrZneba nebismier
mTavrobas metad
aRizianebs da masSi
metoqis mudmiv SiSs
badebs. swored
aRniSnuli SiSis
gadasalaxadaa saWiro
Zalauflebis
yoveldRiuri
demonstrireba, `xalxSi~
siZulvilis Tesva da am
gziT sakuTari
arasrulfasovnebis
SegrZnebisa Tu meryevi
SegviZlia saboloo daskvna gamovitanoT: sakuTari
amaRlebis droebiTobisa da
warmavlobis SegrZnebisgan
gasaTavisufleblad, xelisuflebas represiebi da `samagaliTo procesebi~ sWirdeba. swored mmarTveli elitis skamis gamyarebas emsaxureba brbos siZulvilis
miTebiTa da `Semzaravi
faqtebiT~ kveba. yovelive es
ki maTi SiSebis, dabali TviTSefasebisa da misgan Sobili
zizRis anareklia. erTi sityviT _
sazogadoebaSi siZulvilis
miTebisa da `mtris xatebis~
moTxovnileba iqneba, manam
zemodan miwodebac ar daayovnebs. politikosi Tu religiuri lideri xom, erTi
mxriv, masebis dakveTas asrulebs, xolo meore mxriv,
am siZulvilis miTebiT awarmoebs is masobrivi SegnebiT
manipulirebas da masebis
marTvas.
_ modi, pirdapir
gkiTxav, nebismier
sazogadoebas unda
hqondes Tu ara erTi an
lesi gadmocemebiT~ warmoebs
istoriis TviTneburi gadakeTeba, warsulis zRaprulad
gazviadeba da heroizacia,
xolo arasasurvelis miCumaTeba.
`
masebis ukritiko
gonebac am zemodan
mowodebuli
warmosaxviTi
upiratesobis qarTuli
miTebiT tkbeba. aseTia
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`
`Trobis~
teqnologia.
_ iqneb am miTis Tu
miTebis arsic ganmarto
_ am rigis miTebi sxvaze
usafuZvlo aRmatebulobisken mogviwodebs. sakuTar
upiratesobaSi darwmunebidan Zaladobamde ki erTi
nabijiRaa. sxva _ cudia, Sen
_ kargi! Sefasebis etapis Semdeg moqmedebis dro dgeba.
masebSi warmoebs pirovnebebis, seqsualuri jgufebisa,
mTeli erebis sabWour-rusuli gemovnebiT arCeviTi demonizacia.
_ amis daZleva
SesaZleblad geCveneba?
_ anu, Tu ra unda viRonoT, raTa es sibnele davZlioT?
dasawyisisTvis,
metad damafiqrebeli faqtebi. SvedeTis mosaxleoba 9.5
milionia. erTi dRis ganmavlobaSi SvedeTis biblioTekebSi profesiuli informaciis mosapoveblad dadis 70.000
adamiani. saqarTvelos mosaxleoba daaxloebiT 4 milions
Seadgens. zemomoyvanili
statistikis mixedviT, dReSi,
wesiT, saqarTvelos biblioTekebSic imave mizniT
saSualod 35.000 adamianze
odnav meti unda dadiodes.
sinamdvileSi dadis 700-dan
900-mde adamiani. gansxvaveba
SvedeTsa da Cvens Soris, marTlac TvalSisacemia! Sesabamisad, aseTi gansxvavebaa
saqarTvelosa da evrokavSiris qveynebis xalxebs Soris
wignierebisa da profesionalizmis kuTxiT. ase rom,
`
Tu gvinda, win
wavideT da
civilizebul
sazogadoebad
CamovyalibdeT, mudmiv
swavlasa da Sromas,
dasavluri ganaTlebis
miRebas, Sromis
kulturis mkveTr
amaRlebas alternativa
ar aqvs.
`
_ nebismieri Cvengani
ityvis, rom samSoblo
misTvis yvelaferia,
Tumca Zalian xSirad
samSoblo abstraqtuli
gagebac ki ar aris Cveni
TanamoqalaqeebisTvis da
is mTavrdeba iq, sadac
iwyeba me...
_ mizezi isev sabWoeTia _
saxelmwifoebrivi azrovneb-
is arqona da koleqtivSi
gabatonebuli upasuxismgebloba. odnav Soridan daviwyeb... jer kidev sabWouri
epoqidan moyolebuli morali da principebi SeumCnevlad iqca ganyenebul cnebebad. vinaidan yoveldRiur
cxovrebaSi samarTlianobis,
wesierebis dacva-SenarCuneba
SeuZlebeli gaxda, zneoba
mxolod warmosaxviT kategoriad, fiqciad iqca da man
miTis sferoSi gadainacvla,
sadac keTili mxolod zRaprulad sZlevs borots.
meqrTameoba marTldeba, cxovrebis wesad iqceva _ am
gziT `ojaxSi fulis Semomtani kaci~ sanaqeboc xdeba. sazogadoebis `warCinebul
wevrebs~ qurdoba xelovnebis dargSi ahyavT,
`
ojaxis mamebi~
ostaturad iparaven, ar
eridebian qrTams da
imavdroulad,
`umwikvlo wesierebisa~
da `ganaTlebulebis~
is~ roli. amieridan, `saamur~ monobas, partiisa da
mTavrobis brZnuli xelmZRvanelobiT, gaaferadebs
`wiTeli inteligencia~, is
Seqmnis axali adamianis, axal
kulturasa da morals! elitarul
kastebsa
da
feodalur klanebs nair-nairi privilegiebiT xelisufleba kvebavs. samagierod,
`inteligentebi~ Zalas ar
iSureben, raTa gaakeTilSobilon batonebi. sazogadoebis es mcire, magram gavleni-
_ am yvelaferSi sad
aris moraluri
Semadgeneli? Tumca raRa
Semadgeneli _ morali
sad aris, sad gaqra?
_ zogadsakacobrio Rirebulebebis miTosis sferoSi
gadatanis Sedegad,
`
qarTuli
sazogadoebis didi
nawilisTvis morali
abstraqtul kategoriad
iqca, is mxolod
`
idea _ mebrZolia,
morali _ sindiss
aSfoTebs, principi _
cuds ar gakeTebinebs,
xolo miTi advilad
Segaguebs sakuTar
umsgavsobasa da
uzneobas. aseTia am
komunisturi
Zaladobisgan dacviTi
meqanizmis etiologia.
ase dadga
farisevlobisa da
ormagi moralis
batonobis xana.
lmZRvanel postebsa da
TvalsaCino adgilebs sazogadoebriv cxovrebaSi _ zeda
socialuri fena ixrwneba.
kanondarRveva, kanondamcvelTa mosyidva _ cxovrebis yoveldRiur wesad iqceva.
Cndeba axali misabaZi magaliTi _ mliqvneli, mparavi sabWoTa adamianis tipi _ ,,aTas
y... gadamxtari sabWoeli
virTxa~.
saxelmwifo mteria, amitom, Tu mas mohparav, moaxerxeb da SeumCnevlad aiReb
qrTams _ kargia. qurdoba,
_ rogor fiqrob,
arsebobs imis
SesaZlebloba, rom
Tundac uaxloes
momavalSi, raRac ideis
garSemo erT poziciaze
davdgeT?
_ zemoT ukve vTqvi, rom
swored ruseTis imperiis,
rogorc saqarTvelos okupantis aRqma unda iqces eris
gaerTianebisa da SeTanxmebis
ZiriTad principad. aris Tu
ara es vinmesTvis sasiamovno
mosasmeni,
realoba
qarTvelebs Semdegs gvkarnaxobs: ruseTis imperiis agresiuli arsi saukuneebia ar
icvleba
da
misi
politelitis
ZiriTadi
sazrunavi dResac sabWoTa
kavSiris aRdgenaa. Sesabamisad,
`
`
swored im droidan modis
da CvenSi dRemde formalur
saxes atarebs idealebisa da
wesierebis dacva _ principuloba xom warmosaxvaSi sjobs,
ase ufro usafrTxo da komfortulia.
mokled, batonymuri urTierTobebi Cveni cxovrebis
normad iqca. zemdgomi gCagravs, is batonia, gulSi _
mteric. amave logikiT, sabWoTa saxelmwifo, romelic
mimarTavs Zaladobas, Tesavs
SiSs da awesebs yovelgvar
SezRudvas, borotebaa. masTan
Riad dapirispirebisa yvelas
eSinia, es warmoudgenelicaa.
amitom wina rigebSi inacvleben Semguebeli, moxerxebuli
adamianebi. isini ikaveben xe-
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saxelsac inarCuneben.
respeqtabeluri
`naTlimamebi~
sazogadoebis
msajulebad,
damrigeblebad,
moralistebad
gvevlinebian. adamianTa
uaresi nawili umaRles
socialur fenaSi eqceva.
ase dadga nagvis
zedapirze amotivtivebis
epoqa. ase Seiqna
saxelmwifosTan
mtroba, qurdoba da
meqrTameoba Cveni
cxovrebis wesisa da
moralis nawili. es
`
seni dResac
cocxalia.
_ magram Cven xom ver
vityviT, rom ar
arsebobda qarTuli
goni, qarTuli azri,
mokled, ganaTlebuli
da patiosani qarTveli
adamiani?
_
ganaTlebuli
da
imavdroulad zneobrivi adamianebi adre, 50-ian wlebamde daxvrites, sxvebi daaSines.
Semdeg sabWoTa ideologiam
gaafetiSa da xelovnurad
gazarda `axali inteligenci-
ani, elitaruli fena, rigiTi
adamianebisTvis ara mxolod
upirobod avtoritetuli,
aramed zemoaRwerili umsgavsobis yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi damnergvelic ki Seiqna.
im droidan, Semguebeli, meqrTame mecnierebi, profesormaswavleblebi, mwerlebi, mxatvrebi, arqiteqtorebi, kinosa da Teatris reJisorebi
gvevlinebian `eris mamebad~
da `zneobis Suqurebad~.
Sesabamisi cvlilebebi
ganicada rigiTi adamianebis
zne-Cveulebamac: azrovneba
gaxda ukritiko, is upirobod
daeqvemdebara `avtoritetebis~ azrs _ `sxva, zemdgomi
miiRebs gadawyvetilebas, me
mxolod taSs davukrav,
davalebas ugulod, formalurad Sevasruleb da samagierod, mSvidad viqnebi~;
Tavisuflebis
mkveTrma
SezRudvam gamoiwvia pasuxismgeblobis daqveiTeba _ inertul adamians motivi
gauqra Tavi emtvria ama Tu
im problemis gadasaWrelad.
ase Sves diqtaturam da
koleqtivizmma uiniciativoba _
`
mona mxolod
`beladis~ imedad
darCa, is mieCvia
upasuxismgeblo da
mconare arsebobas. ase
iqca zarmacoba,
inertuloba da
infantilizmi qarTul
nacionalur tragediad,
amis gamo dResac ase
tkbilad igoneben
adamianebi imperiis
wiaRSi `netar~
cxovrebas da
elodebian morig
`mxsnels~.
`
warmosaxvaSi _
zRaprul, idealizebul
samyaroSi arsebobs.
`
ase magaliTad, Cven amayad
vimeorebT, rom qarTvelebi
`SoTas, ilias, akakisa da vaJas eri varT!~, vamayobT imiT,
rom `xelSi gorgaslian-daviTian-Tamariani~ droSa gviWiravs da sulac ar gverideba, amasTan erTad, aviRoT
qrTami, movparoT saxelmwifos da SevnatrodeT okupant ruseTs.
`wesierebam~ da `moralma~ sufraze gadainacvla _
qarTulma qeifma da sma-Wamam
amazrzeni ieri SeiZina, is
gadaiqca qarTvelebis gazviadebuli didebisa da gayalbebuli istoriis, farisevlobisa da mliqvnelobis,
uazro sadRegrZeloebisa da
gauTavebeli Rreobis arenad.
dResac, okupantis mexotbe,
meqrTame Cinovniki Tu profesori sufrasTan did pativSia!
Sedegad, qarTuli nacionaluri ubedurebis triada aseTia: a) Suri da siZulvili; b) uvicoba da araprofesionalizmi; g) farisevloba da miTologiuri, ukritiko, Sablonuri azrovneba.
`
sruliad
logikuria, rom dRes
iseTi cnebebi,
rogorebicaa:
samSoblo da
patriotizmi, Tavdadeba
da gmiroba _
abstraqtul
kategoriebad iqca,
xolo adamianebis
arsebobis ZiriTad
arssa Tu azrs `Zexvi~
warmoadgens.
`
saqarTvelos
saxelmwifos mTavari
amocanaa: `borotebis
imperiis~ klanWebidan
Tavis daRweva da
dasavleTis samxedropolitikur
struqturebSi drouli
integracia. arsebuli
mdgomareoba
gvkarnaxobs, aRviqvaT
ruseTi, rogorc Cveni
damoukideblobis
dauZinebeli mteri!
`
pragmatulad SevxedoT
sakiTxs: ruseTTan `cxel~ Tu
`civ~ omSi gamarjvebis gareSe
Cven araferi gveSveleba _
aseTia mkacri realoba da is
yvela saqarTvelos moqalaqem unda gaiTavisos.
saubris dasasruls, minda
daskvnis saxiT garkveuli
mosazrebebi
gamovTqva:
qarTvelebs Tavisuflebisa da
demokratiisTvis brZolis,
sakmaod, didi, uaryofiTi,
magram Wkuis saswavlebeli
gamocdileba dagvigrovda:
`
viwyebT TiTqos
kargad _ `cekas~
mdivnebis, Zveli
inteligenciis,
kriminalebisa da
gaamayebuli ierarqebis
feodaluri
mmarTvelobis ngrevas
da vamTavrebT maTi
axali klanebiT
CanacvlebiT _ vklavT
Tavisufal bazarsa da
jansaR konkurencias;
Cven vibrZviT
damoukideblobisTvis
da uSedegod
vcdilobT,
davibrunoT
okupirebuli
teritoriebi.
warumateblobis mizezi
ki erTia _ jer TviT
unda gaxde Tavisufali
da mxolod Semdeg
SeZleb gaaTavisuflo
sxva. aseTia gza
pirovnuli
Tavisuflebidan
Tavisufal
sazogadoebamde.
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`evropisken miaxloebis procesi ise unda mogvarebuliyo,
rom emigrantebi ar dazaralebuliyvnen~
ikurneba, gaZlevs cxovrebis
sabuTs, binis SovnaSic Tavad
gexmareba da pensiasac giniSnavs. sanam ar gamogajanmrTelebs yvelanairad gexmareba, magram axla am
sabuTebis gacemis Sewyveta
daiwyo. dokumentiT, romelsac xeli moewera, saqarTvelo valdebulia, Tavad
umkurnalos am adamianebs,
radgan iTvleba, rom CvenTan
mkurnaloba sxvadasxva doneze yvelasTvis ukve xelmisawvdomia.
anka bazeraSvili
s
afrangeTSi
mcxovrebma
uflebadamcvelma
koka
kvinikaZem
`premiers~
eqskluziurad
acnoba, rom cota xnis
win safrangeTis
xelisuflebam iq
macxovrebeli
qarTvelebi, romlebic
am qveyanas TavSesafars,
an mkurnalobas
sTxoven, gaafrTxila,
daxmarebebs veRar
miiRebT, saqarTveloSi
dabrundiTo.
koka kvinikaZe:
_ safrangeTma daiwyo
qarTveli emigrantebis gayra
Tavisi qveynidan. es, albaT,
sxva qveynebsac gadaedeba,
radgan aseTi ram SemTxveviTobis brali ar aris. zogi
qarTveli aq samkurnalo
sabuTiT aris Camosuli, zogi
socialuri Tu politikuri
TavSesafris molodinSia, magram daxmarebaze yvelas
uars ucxadeben. eubnebian,
Tqvens qveyanaSi wadiTo. es
procesebi ori Tvea, rac
daiwyo, anu mas Semdeg, rac
saqarTvelom xeli moawera
asocirebis wina xelSekrulebas. asocirebis xelSekrulebas rom moewereba xeli, albaT, kidev ufro garTuldeba qarTveli emigrantebis
mdgomareoba ucxoeTSi.
_ asocirebiswina
xelSekrulebam
emigrantebis
mdgomareobaze
uaryofiTad ratom
imoqmeda?
_ xo, magram realurad
rom ase ar aris, vin
atyuebs evropas?! Tu
asocirebis xelSekruleba
xalxs problemebs
gauasmagebs, maSin ra
saWiroa aseTi
xelSekrulebebi?
koka kvinikaZe
`am xelisuflebis didi Secdomac aris is,
rom mxolod amboben, unda dabrundnen
qarTvelebi ucxoeTidano, magram amisTvis
arafers akeTeben.. ramdenic unda iZaxon, ar
dabrundebian aseT pirobebSi~
_ asocirebiswina xelSekrulebis xelmoweris Semdeg,
safrangeTma saqarTvelo
Casva usafrTxo qveynebis siaSi. aqamde Cveni qveynidan Casuli adamiani TavSesafars, an
socialur daxmarebas Tu
moiTxovda, mas saemigracio
samsaxuri ganixilavda. realuri mizezi visac hqonda,
TavSesafars aZlevdnen. axla
ki uariT istumreben da
pirdapir eubnebian, Tqvens
qveyanaSi problemebi ukve
gadaWrilia da TavSesafaric aRar gWirdebaTo. cxadia,
es ar niSnavs imas, rom realurad saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs problemebi ar
aqvT, magram, roca aseT xelSekrulebas awers xels qveyana, is ukve sxva valdebule-
bebs iRebs. am SemTxvevaSi
saqarTvelos sxva valdebulebebi aqvs evropis winaSe
da ra Tqma unda, rac ufro
vuaxlovdebiT mas, Tavis
xarks gvaxdevinebs. Cveni moqalaqeebi mas aRarc samkurnalod sWirdeba da arc
dasaxmareblad. samwuxarod,
es procesebi Seexo evropas
avadmyofobis gamo Cabarebul xalxs. ai, es aris yvelaze problematuri. radgan
saqarTveloSi maTi sicocxle safrTxis qveS idga, isini
Camodiodnen safrangeTSi,
ikeTebdnen gamokvlevebs da
Tu seriozuli avadmyofoba
aRmoaCndebodaT, utarebdnen
mkurnalobis kurss, romelsac
dazRveva
ixdida.
dazRvevas ki am Tanxas saxelmwifo uricxavda. am adamianebs, mkurnalobis garda,
pensiasac aZlevdnen. albaT,
cota daujerebelia, magram
asea. axla ki am mZime daavadebebis mqone adamianebsac eubnebian, datoveT qveyanao.
evropas aqvs aseTi wesi da
sxvadasxva evrokonvenciebiT
valdebuleba, Tu Camodixar
da gaqvs avadmyofoba,
romelic Sens qveyanaSi ver
_ evropas milionobiT
evro ujdeba ucxo qveynis
moqalaqeebis mkurnaloba.
amaze araerTi gadacema momzadda frangul televiziebSi. aqedan gamomdinare, Tu
maT raime xelmosaWidi
eqnebaT, uari rom Tqvan sxva
qveynebidan Camosuli avadmyofebis mkurnalobaze, ra
Tqma unda, amas gamoiyenebs.
saqarTvelo dRes sabuTebis
doneze uaxlovdeba evropas,
Sesabamisad ki, garkveul
valdebulebebs evropac akisrebs, Tundac sakuTari
moqalaqeebis patronobas.
yvela avadmyofs jer ar Sexebia es, Tumca did nawils
ukve Seexo.
situacia orma ramem
gaafuWa: rogorc giTxariT,
erTi
iyo
evropisken
saqarTvelos mier gadadgmuli nabiji, meore ki aq Camosuli kriminalebi. sxvaTa
Soris, frangul arxebze
xSirad aris qarTul mafiaze
saubari. radgan Cven vambobT
_ evropuli standartebis
qveyana varT da ase vviTardebiTo, isic gveubneba,
Tqvens moqalaqeebs me ratomRa vumkurnalo, waiyvane da
Tavad umkurnaleo. yvela
qveyana valdebulia, Tavis
xalxs umkurnalos. aqamde
saqarTvelodan safrangeTSi
Camosulebs imitom mkurnalobdnen, rom oficialur
doneze
iyo
cnobili,
saqarTveloSi amis pirobebi
ar iyo. ar vambob rom axla
aris, magram oficialur
doneze axla sxvagvarad
laparakoben. vinc uars iRebs,
sasamarTloSi garbis da axla
iq xdeba garCeva, vin unda
datovos safrangeTi da vin
_ ara. faqti erTia, rom
qarTvelebis gacxrilva daiwyo.
_ mainc ver gamigia,
ratom ajerebs qarTuli
mxare tyuilad evropas,
rom aq yvelaferi
kargadaa? amiT xom ucxo
qveyanaSi wasul avadmyof
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
adamianebs sikvdilisTvis
swiravs da es dasaSvebia?
_ `c~ hepatitze samkurnalod aq Camodiodnen
qarTvelebi. axla am avadmy-
ofobis mkurnalobaze bevrma
uari
ukve
miiRo.
saqarTveloSi 2016 wlidan
apireben `c~ hepatitis programis amuSavebas, axla ki
mxolod patimrebisTvis daiwyes es programa. vinc ukve
mkurnalobda aq `c~ hepatitze, Setyobineba miiRes,
datoveT qveyana, Tqven
fsiqologiuri daxmareba ar
gWirdebaTo. pirdapir ar
eubnebian, `c~ hepatitze aRar
gimkurnalebTo da sxva
mizeziT undaT, rom gamouSvan. kargi werili gamougzavna safrangeTis mTavrobas
saqarTvelos jandacvis ministrma daviT sergeenkom,
aseve, saemigracio samsaxuris
xelmZRvanelma kote surgulaZem. isini weren, rom
saqarTveloSi `c~ hepatitis
mkurnaloba yvelasTvis xelmisawvdomi ver ariso, Tumca
amiT dawyebuli kampania ar
Sewyvetila. ucxoeTSi bevri
aralegalia, saberZneTSi 200
aTasi qarTveli cxovrobs da
maTi 70-80 procenti aralegalia. axla evropas SeuZlia,
Tu aralegals naxavs, Casvas
TviTmfrinavSi da gamouSvas
TbilisSi amis xarjebs
saqarTvelo aanazRaurebs.
saqarTvelos ukve es valdebulebac aqvs.
_ gamodis, rom es
xelSekruleba Cvens
xalxs mdgomareobas
uuaresebs. saqarTveloSi
kvlav ar aris samuSao
adgilebi, ufasod
samedicino daxmarebas
aravin utarebT, Tu
momakvdavi ar aris. aq
sicocxlis ufleba
darRveulia, Tumca maT
mier dadebuli
xelSekrulebebi da
formalobebi xalxs
ucxoeTSi ufasod
mkurnalobis
saSualebasac uspobs da
es ras niSnavs?!
_ axla cota Temidan gadavuxvev. arsebobs samsaxurebi, romlebic TiTqos migrantebTan unda muSaobdnen. Cve-
ni xelisuflebebisgan xSirad gagvigia: yvelaferi unda
gavakeToT, Cveni migrantebi
rom
dabrundneno.
saqarTveloSi rom dabrundes emigranti Tavisi
nebiT, qveyana unda gaxdes im
donis, rom sakuTari xelfasiT ojaxis Senaxva mainc SeZlos. Tu Tavad saqarTvelo
ar ganviTarda, migrantebTan
mudaras azri ar aqvs. yvelam
icis, rom amden migrants
saqarTveloSi ver daasaqmeben, Tu jer qveyana ar gaimarTa welSi. saqarTvelos
xelisuflebam qarTveli emigrantebisTvis raime unda
gaakeTos, magram ar akeTebs.
yvela qveyanaSi, sadac
qarTveli emigrantebi arian,
unda Seqmnan Tundac imis
piroba, rom maT qarTuli ena
ar daaviwydeT, qarTuli
skolebi gaxsnan, qarTuli
cekvis jgufebi Camoayalibon, radgan aq izrdebian bavSvebi qarTul ojaxebSi da
qarTuli ar ician. es bavSvebi izrdebian frangebad, germanelebad, berZnebad da isini
saqarTveloSi
dambruneblebic aRar arian.
milion-naxevari qarTveli
mainc aris saqarTvelodan
wamosuli da maTi Svilebi
saqarTvelos dakarguli
hyavs, radgan maT qarTuli ar
ician. iliam tyuilad ki ar
Tqva, `mamuli, ena da sarwmunoebao~. am bavSvebma mamuli
xom dakarges, axla enas kargaven da ra Tqma unda, albaT, sarwmunoebasac dakargaven, rac aris tragedia.
ucxoeTSi
mcxovreb
qarTvelebs arc Cveni wina
xelisufleba uwyobda xels
da arc amJamindeli. nebismiers davujdebi debatebSi
da miTxran erTi, ra xelSewyoba xdeba. aq rom adamiani
mokvdeba da gadasvenebaSi
daexmarebian ojaxs, es aris
mxolod
xelSewyoba?!
umTavresia, is problema
mivagvaroT, romliTac ar
davkargavT qarTvelebs ucxoeTSi. saubaria milion-naxevari qarTvelisa da maTi
Svilebis dakargvaze da es
qveynis xelisuflebas unda
awuxebdes. aris adgilebi,
sadac qarTvelebma moaxerxes da Seqmnes qarTuli skola. parizSi aris qarTuli
skola da qarTuli cekvis
wre, magram orive konkretuli biznesmenisgan finansdeba. es adamiani Tavisi
keTili nebiT afinansebs
mas. aseve, aris mama antoni, romelic saTaveSi udgas qarTul asociacias da yvelafers
akeTebs am xalxis
qarTvelebad Camosayalibeblad. qalaq lionSi Cems meuRles hqonda
Camoyalibebuli asociacia, romelmac gaxsna
qarTuli skola. iq
tardeboda
xatvis,
cekvis
gakveTilebic.
qarTvelebi
yovelkvira
ikribebodnen da qarTuls
swavlobdnen, magram es yvelaferi dakavSirebulia finansebTan. am xalxis did nawils iq isedac uWirs. erTi
samsaxuridan meoreSi gadadian da am Tanxebis gadaxdas
veRar axerxeben. asociacia
skolas rom xsnis, safrangeTis saxelmwifo amisTvis
calke gadasaxads akisrebs.
es skola imitom daixura,
rom aranairi xelSewyoba ar
hqonda saqarTvelos xelisuflebisgan. Cemi meuRle Sexvda saqarTvelos Sesabamisi
uwyebis warmomadgenlebs da
daxmareba sTxovaT, magram
maTi daxmareba ramdenime wigniT, droSiTa da sacekvao
formiT Semoifargla. axali
xelisuflebis pirobebSic, am
mxriv, aranairi winsvla ar
aris. asociaciis muSaoba gaCerda ufinansobis gamo, ma-
gram, roca raime kulturuli dReebia, ramdenime adamiani Cveni saxsrebiT mivdivarT da vcdilobT, qarTuli kultura warmovaCinoT.
_ saqarTvelos saelCo
ras akeTebs, aba, maTi
funqcia ra aris, Tu ara
iq macxovrebeli
emigrantebis Tanadgoma?!
_ cxadia, SevxvdiT elCs
da am problemebzec vesaubreT. daxmarebas dagvpirda. roca vinme daiRupeba,
mxarSi dgoma saelCodan
aqvT, magram saelCos ar aqvs
Tanxebi. sanam es yvelaferi
saxelmwifo politikis doneze ar mogvardeba, araferi
eSveleba. yvela qveynisTvis
unda gamoiyos biujetidan
garkveuli Tanxebi, rom
saelCom misi gankargva moaxdinos. wina da am xelisuflebis didi Secdomac aris is,
rom mxolod amboben, unda
dabrundnen qarTvelebi ucxoeTidano, magram amisTvis
arafers akeTeben. ramdenic
unda iZaxon, ar dabrundebian aseT pirobebSi. marTalia,
axla emigrantebs agdeben,
magram aseve bevri qarTvelia
ucxoeTSi, vinc wlebia, iq
cxovrobs da safrangeTis
moqalaqecaa. am xalxis
Svilebs undaT, qarTuli iswavlon, magram ver swavloben. maT mciredi mxarSi
dgoma sWirdebaT, magram
esec ar gaakeTes.
_ radgan aseTi
umoqmedobaa
saqarTvelos
xelisuflebis mxridan
emigrantebis mimarT da
axla masobrivad
gamoyares qarTveli
emigrantebi evropis
qveynebidan, es xom Cveni
xelisuflebis mimarT
maT ukmayofilebas
gamoiwvevs?
_ ra Tqma unda, ase moxdeba. zogs saxli aqvs gayiduli da isea wamosuli safrangeTSi. zogi kidev iseTi
avadmyofia, rom saqarTveloSi rom Camova, didxans ver
icocxlebs. aTasobiT Cveni
moqalaqis mdgomareobas
daamZimebs evropis xeliskvra.
isini, cxadia, Cvens xelisuflebas miubrundebian.
rac Seexeba kriminalebs.
sakmaod bevri kriminali
qarTvelia Camosuli evropaSi. yvela kategoriis kriminalia aq _ avtoritetebic da
ubralo momparavebic. safrangeTis arxebze xSirad
aris qarTvel kriminalebze
saubari, radgan isini texen
da qurdaven frangebis binebs.
ukve aRarafers amboben, maRaziebidan tansacmelsa da
sxva nivTebs rom iparaven.
evropaSi
kontrolis
meqanizmi maRaziebsa da sxva
25
savaWro adgilebSi naklebia.
evropeli verasdros warmoidgens, ratom unda moiparo tansacmeli. Tan sasjeli
aseT danaSaulze aq ufro
mcirea, araerTi gadacema
mieZRvna am Temas. aseTi kategoriis xalxis gamo, bevr
patiosan emigrants Seeqmna
problema mxolod imitom,
rom isic qarTveli iyo. ise
gagvityda saxeli, policieli rom igebs, qarTveli xar,
ukve sxvanairad giyurebs.
aTasjer gCxreken da gimowmeben sabuTebs. safrangeTis
cixeebSic bevri qarTvelia.
frangebi yvelaze mtkivneulad mainc saxlebis gatexas
miiCneven. qarTvelebis gansakuTrebuli Semowmeba midis,
radgan yvelaSi qurds eZeben.
am faqtormac gamoiwvia emigrantebis gamoyris kampaniis
dawyeba. am sakiTxSic xelisuflebas marTebda kargi
muSaoba. mxolod sagareo
saqmeTa saministros doneze
ki ar unda wydebodes yvelaferi, qarTuli asociaciebis, saelCos mier aris
didi samuSao Casatarebeli.
mxolod qurdoba ki ara, Cveni kulturac unda davanaxoT evropelebs. vaCvenoT,
rom mxolod momparavebi da
binis qurdebi ara varT da
kargi rameebis gakeTebac SegviZlia.
_ ar SeiZleboda
evropisken miaxloebis
procesi ise
mogvarebuliyo, rom
xalxi ar
dazaralebuliyo?!
_ SeiZleboda. xelisuflebam xom icoda, aseT valdebulebebsa da xelmowerebs
rac mohyveboda, amitom man-
amde unda gadaedga iseTi
saWiro nabijebi, romelic
xalxs garkveulwilad am
procesebis gadatanas Seumsubuqebda. kargia, axla mainc
rom gamogzavna sergeenkom
es werili, magram amjerad mas
Sedegi aRar mohyva. sjobda
manamde gaekeTebinaT da
daerwmunebinaT evropa, rom
aseT garkveul avadmyof adamianebs aq ver exmarebian da
Tu isinic aRar gauwvdian
xels, isini sikvdilisTvis
iqnebian ganwirulni. Tumca
maT es ar gaakeTes da es
aucileblad gamoiwvevs xalxis ukmayofilebas.
26 premieri
axali ambebi
`yirimis krizisis
sakiTxSi
evrokavSiri
`lisabonidan
rigamde~ erTiani
unda iyos~
germaniis kancleri angela merkeli acxadebs, rom
evropam ukrainis krizisTan
dakavSirebiT, „gonivruli,
Tumca gadamwyveti” nabijebi unda gadadgas. misi TqmiT,
aucilebelia yvelaferi gakeTdes, raT ruseTTan dialogi ar CaiSalos.
kanclerma ganacxada,
rom rodesac saubaria
evropul Rirebulebebze,
molaparakebebi „aucilebeli simtkiciT” unda gagrZeldes. yirimis problemaze
saubrisas merkelma gamoiyena sityva „aneqsia”. misi
TqmiT, ruseTis qmedebebi
ewinaaRmdegeba
saerTaSoriso samarTals da meore
msoflio omis Semdeg damyarebul normebs.
germaniis kancleri yirimis kriziss dRes varSavaSi
polonel kolega doland
tuskTan Sexvedraze ganixilavs. Tavis mxriv tuski
acxadebs, rom ruseTis
winaaRmdeg axali sanqciebi
orSabaTidan amoqmeddeba.
merkeli ki Tvlis, rom ruseTis winaaRmdeg sanqciebis
gamkacreba ufro met zians
moitans vidre sargebels.
kancleri aseve acxadebs,
rom yirimis krizisis sakiTxSi evrokavSiri „lisabonidan rigamde” erTiani unda
iyos.
`nacionaluri
moZraobis~ merobis
kandidati nika
melia iqneba
„nacionaluri moZraobis”
wevrma giorgi vaSaZem praimerizSi Tanapartielis nika
melias sasargeblod Tavisi
kandidatura moxsna. amgvarad, `nacionaluri moZrao-
bis” Tbilisi merobis kandidati nika melia iqneba.
„konkurenciam moitana is,
rom axali adamianebi, axali
liderebi gamoikveTnen. maT
Soris gamoikveTa nika melia, Cemi megobari. romelTan erTadac Cven ramdenime
welia erTad movdivarT da
is marTlac Zalian pozitiura. amitom me miviRe gadawyvetileba Cven gundTan
erTad, rom movxsna Cemi kandidatura mis sasargeblod
da Cven daviwyoT axali faza
cvlilebebis”, - ganacxada
vaSaZem.
axali ambebi
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
#10 (027)
`qveyanaSi uxeSad ilaxeba Cveni
sakonstitucio ufleba~
anka bazeraSvili
k
arga xania
evropasa da
amerikas im
imediT
vuaxlovdebiT,
rom gulSi
Cagvikravs da
dagvexmareba, Tumca
faqti is aris, rom is
ufro da ufro
gvcildeba. `premiers~
kidev erTi aseTi faqti
Cauvarda xelSi.
Tamar iovaSvili,
kavSiris
umuSevarTa
Tavmjdomare:
_ umuSevarTa kavSiris
delegacia, saqmiani vizitiT,
winaswari SeTanxmebiT midioda amerikis SeerTebul
StatebSi. 15-dan 21 martamde
niu-iorkSi unda Semdgariyo
Sexverebi, 21-dan 26 martamde
ki _ vaSingtonSi. amerikaSi
ramdenime arasamTavrobo
organizacia swored im sakiTxebze muSaobs, romelic
Cveni saqmianobis sferoa, amitom, pirvel rigSi, maT unda
SevxvedrodiT. dagegmili
iyo Sexvedra Sromis saerTaSoriso organizaciasTan,
gaeroSi saqarTvelos elCTan
da iq registrirebul organizaciebTan, radgan Cvenma
organizaciam iq registracia
gaiara
rogorc
arasamTavrobom, romelic
umuSevarTa
uflebebis
dacvis sakiTxebze muSaobs.
garda amisa, dagegmili
gvqonda Sexvedrebi qarTul
diasporasTan da niu-iorkis
RvTismSoblis saxelobis
marTlmadideblur eklesiasTan. axla agixsniT, ratom
iyo mniSvnelovani es Sexvedra da mkiTxvelic mixvdeba
ramdenad mniSvnelovani kam-
Tamar iovaSvili:
21 bavSvisTvis, romlebic am
ojaxebSi cxovroben. es aqcia
maSin mediaSic gaSuqda da
misi video da fotomasalac
gvaqvs. zogi bavSvis survili
iyo, Tojina gveCuqebina, zogic iTxovda, calke logini
miyideT, debisa da Zmebis
gverdiT mZinavso. zogma magida gvayidina, normalurad
sadilobis saSualeba rom
hqonoda. es yvelaferi am
adamianebs
gavukeTeT
amerikaSi Segrovili Tanxis
saSualebiT. am ojaxebs aseve
mivutaneT baliSebi, sabnebi,
TeTreuli, romelsac moklebulni iyvnen. grandiozuli
da mniSvnelovani aqcia
movawyveT. axla im adamianebTanac gvqonda Sexvedra dagegmili, romlebmac aqciis
CatarebaSi daxmareba gagviwies da es ara mxolod Cveni,
maTi survilic iyo. erTad
unda
SegvemuSavebina
SemdgomSi aseTi adamianebis
daxmarebis sqemebi.
`qarTveli xalxis
winaaRmdeg
erToblivi
SeTqmulebaa?!~
_ anu sakmaod
mniSvnelovani misiiT
midiodiT da CageSalaT?
pania CaSales.
2012 wels, roca aqtiur saqvelmoqmedo saqmianobas veweodiT, xalxs vexmarebodiT, dagvikavSirda
amerikis eklesiis mrevli da
Tavad am eklesiis arqimandriti, qristofor kalini.
rogorc gviTxres, maT Seityves, rom usaxlkaroebs
vexmarebodiT da maTTvis Segrovili hqondaT garkveuli
raodenobis Tanxa. mama serafimem iqidan Camoitana es
fuli, romliTac CavatareT
`survilebis asrulebis~ aqcia libanis quCis #33-Si
mcxovrebi 11 ojaxisTvis da
evropul qveyanaSia. safrangeTis organizacia exmareba
usaxlkaroebs,
umuSevrebs, Rarib-Ratak
ojaxebs iciT, rogor? `Semweobis kalaTa~ dgas supermarketebSi da TiToeul moqalaqes aqvs saSualeba, risi
SesaZleblobac aqvs, iyidos
aseTi adamianebisTvis am supermarketSi da Cados am
kalaTaSi. Cven am proeqtis
ganxorcielebisTvis gvWirdeba misi popularizacia, magram weliwad-naxevaria amis
aRsruleba ver movaxerxeT.
yvela biznesmensa da jgufs
mivmarTeT dasaxmareblad.
_ Cvens gegmaSi aris `Semweobis kalaTis~ proeqtis
ganxorcieleba. am proeqtze
vmuSaobT ukve weliwad-naxevaria. Cveni organizaciis
msgavsi organizaciebi yvela
dagisaxelebT yvelaze msxvil kompaniebsa da SeZlebul
pirovnebebs, romelTac mivmarTeT: `qarTu jgufi~; piradad biZina ivaniSvilsac
gavugzavneT werili. veubnebodiT, xelfasebi ar gvinda,
dagvexmareT mxolod proeqtis popularizaciaSi. xalxma, Cvenma moqalaqeebma rom
gaigon, risTvis dgas es
kalaTebi supermarketebSi da
icodnen, rom is Rarib ojaxebs gaunawildebaTo. mivmarTeT piradad bera ivaniSvilsac, biznesmen vasaZes, `visol jgufs~ da a.S. mokled,
yvela kari vamtvrieT, magram
aravisgan aranairi pasuxi ar
migviRia. proeqtis dafinansebas xom ar viTxovdiT,
misi popularizacia gvindoda mxolod, rac gulisxmobda videorgolis Seqmnasa da
televiziebSi, saitebze ganTavsebas.
maTgan
meti
araferi gvindoda, magram ar
gaakeTes.
radgan
saqarTveloSi
veraferi
gavawyveT, davukavSirdiT
Cvens amerikel megobrebs.
aqve aRvniSnav, rom Cvens
organizacias rac ki saqvelmoqmedo aqcia aqvs Catarebuli, yvela qarTveli emigrantebis mier iyo dafinansebuli, im xalxisgan, vinc
samSoblodan gadaxvewilia
da lukmapuris gamo 24 saaTi
monur pirobebSi muSaobs. isini gvigzavnidnen, ris saSualebac hqondaT, zogjer 10
evrosac ki, magram aseTi daxmareba mudmivad iyo. am Semweobis kalaTazec daxmarebas
ukve maT vTxoveT da Tanxmobac miviReT, magram amisTvis
saWiro iyo Cveni warmomadgenlebi, sakiTxebis dasazusteblad, mosagvareblad
da imis gasacnobad, sad
rogor xorcieldeba es
proeqti, adgilze CavsuliyaviT da yvelaferi sakuTari TvaliT gvenaxa. imit-
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
om iyo saWiro, amerikaSi Casuliyo Cveni delegacia, rom
Semdgom maT saqarTveloSi
sworad ganexorcielebinaT
es proeqti. am saqmeSi daxmarebas mxolod emigrantebi
ki ara, amerikeli da sxva
erovnebis xalxic gvpirdeboda, romelic am marTlmadideblur eklesiaSi dadis.
Tu es proeqti saqarTveloSi ganxorcieldeba, Semweobis
kalaTa daidgmeba yvela supermarketSi da am proeqtis
popularizacia moxdeba,
darwmunebuli var, Cveni Tanamoqalaqeebi am gaWirvebuli
xalxis mimarT gulgrilni
ar iqnebian. erTi periodi
Cven videqiT supermarketebSi da vagrovebdiT sursaTs.
wels saSobao kalaTis proeqti ganaxorcieles studentebma da maTma aqciamac warmatebiT Caiara. roca xalxi
igebda, rac xdeboda, saSobaod risTvisac grovdeboda
sursaTi, gulgrilad kalaTas gverds veravin uvlida.
amis garda, umuSevarTa
kavSiri sakanonmdeblo kuTxiTac muSaobs da vemzadebiT
sakonstitucio sasamarTloSi sarCelis ganxilvisTvis.
araerTxel vTqviT, rom ilaxeba Cveni sakonstitucio
ufleba. arsebobs saqarTvelos kanoni socialuri daxmarebis Sesaxeb. am kanonis
kategoriebis nusxaSi, vinc
unda miiRos daxmareba, ar
aris naxsenebi sityva umuSevari, rac konstituciis
pirdapiri da uxeSi darRvevaa. aseve, es gaxlavT Sromis saerTaSoriso organizaciis rekomendaciebis
uxeSi darRveva. Cven am aqciisTvisac vemzadebiT. im
jgufis erT-erTi warmomadgeneli, romelic amerikaSi
midioda, swored am sakiTxebSi iyo momzadebuli, rom
Sesabamisi rCevebi da rekomendaciebi mieRo Sromis
saerTaSoriso organizaciasa
da gaeroSi, magram amerikis
saelCos mimarTa delegaciam
7 kacis SemadgenlobiT da
wasvlaze uari miiRo.
_ mizezad ra
dagisaxeles?
_ delegacia Cemi TanaTavmjdomaris, daviT CixlaZis
meTaurobiT unda wasuliyo.
batoni daviTi ganaTlebiT
iuristia da muSaobs advokatad. am adamians aqvs seriozuli Semosavali, radgan
araerTi sasamarTlo aqvs
mogebuli. wesiT, finansuri
sakiTxebis gamo saelCoSi
dabrkoleba ar unda Sehqmnoda. Tumca mTel organizacias, CixlaZis CaTvliT,
uTxres uari amerikaSi gamgzavrebaze da dagegmili,
SeTanxmebuli viziti CagviSales. Svididan ori mainc rom
gaeSvaT, xmas ar amoviRebdiT,
magram yvelas uari uTxres.
daviT CixlaZes sakonsulo
oficerma ganucxa, ar mjera,
rom marTla am sakiTxze midixarTo. gaugebaria da Seuracxmyofeli aseTi saubari.
rogorc kavSirs Tavmjdomare da saqarTvelos moqalaqe vcdilob, raRaciT
davexmaro gaWirvebul moqalaqeebs. me maqvs Cemi patara Semosavali da SemiZlia,
mSvidad davjde da vicxovro,
magram qveyanaSi uxeSad ilaxeba Cveni sakonstitucio
ufleba, wels 10 procentiT
gaizarda siRaribis done da
mSvidad ver vaxerxeb jdomas.
vici, rom raRac unda movimoqmedoT
da
kidev
aTwleulebi ar vuyuroT
mTavrobas, rodis gamoiCens
keTil nebas da gaakeTebs
rames xalxisTvisac. miT
ufro, rom vxedavT, jer
xalxis dasaxmareblad ver
iclian. proeqti `Semweobis
kalaTa~ aucileblad unda
ganvaxorcieloT da aqedan
gamomdinare, Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo es viziti
amerikaSi. am etapze proeqti
Cavarda, radgan saqarTveloSi daxmareba aravin gagviwia.
amerikaSi amisTvis xalxi
mzad aris. Cven migvqonda
amaTTan Cveni gaubedurebulgaRatakebuli xalxis foto
da videomasala. unda agvexsna, ra aris gasakeTebeli,
iqac unda mogvexdina am
proeqtis aucileblobis re-
klamireba. es ukve iqneboda
naxevari saqme, rasac am
gaWirvebuli xalxisTvis gavakeTebdiT. rogorc ukve
giTxariT,
gaeroSi,
arasamTavrobo organizaciebis nusxaSi daregistrirda
Cveni organizacia da cxadia,
gvainteresebs maTi rCevebi,
gamocdileba. gvaqvs sakiTxebi, raSic msgavsi organizaciebis gamocdileba unda
dagvexmaros, radgan sakmaod
didi saqmes SeveWideT. ukve
didi xania, xelisuflebaSi
`qarTuli ocnebaa~, magram am
kuTxiT arafers akeTebs.
axla minda vkiTxo SeerTebuli Statebis elCs, riCard
norlands, ratom uTxra
uari amerikaSi gamgzavrebaze daviT CixlaZesa da am
jgufs?! sxva organizacia,
romelic umuSevarTa uflebebs icavs, saqarTveloSi ar
arsebobs da ratom gviTxres
uari?! Cvens garda, saelCoSi
ramdenime sxva arasamTavrobo organizaciac iyo warmodgenili, magram yvelas
uari ganucxades, radgan es
organizaciebi ar Sedian im
nusxaSi, romelTac aqvT
ufleba amerikasa da evropaSi, roca gauxardebaT, maSin
irbinon.
_ aseTi organizaciebis
siac arsebobs? ras ar
gaigeb am saqarTveloSi?!
_ diax, aseTi aris 7
arasamTavrobo organizacia,
`saias~ TavmjdomareobiT.
masSi Sedis `gamWvirvaloba _
saqarTvelo~ da kidev 5
arasamTavrobo. isini saerTaSoriso fondebis mudmiv
dotaciaze sxedan. es yvelaferi ki SemTxveviT ar
xdeba. damerwmuneT, es organizaciebi mudmivad dakavebuli arian geebisa da sxva msgavsi umciresobebis uflebebis dacviT, treninginis
Catarebebze aTeTreben 100
aTasobiT Tanxebs da aranairi sxva sargebeli maT saqmianobas saqarTvelosa da
qarTveli xalxisTvis ar
moaqvs. Cven am siaSi ar SevdivarT, aravis karnaxiT ar
vmoqmedebT da yvelafers
mxolod qarTveli xalxis
interesebisTvis vakeTebT.
uaris realuri mizezic es
iyo. am 7 prioritetul da
ucxoeTSi Tavisuflad morbenal organizacias dResac
aqvs myari kontaqti nacionalebTan. isini `nacionaluri
moZraobisa~ da `respub-
likuri partiis~ daaxloebuli, proamerikuli organizaciebia da maT garda, aravis
arafers akeTebineben, yvela
saSualebasa da gzas uspoben.
maT aqvT mxolod anTebuli
mwvane Suqi, sxvebi ki yvelaferze uars iReben.
_ Tqveni amerikaSi
vizitis dablokvis
realuri mizezi
mxolod es aris?
_ oficerma isic uTxra
CixlaZes, Zalian karg saqmes
akeTebT, Zalian saWirosac,
magram ar mjera, rom
amisTvis midixarTo. ras
hqvia, mjera, ar mjera?! vekiTxebi baton norlands,
mkiTxavebis jgufi uzis sakonsuloSi Tu ra xdeba? argumentirebuli uari mainc
rom miviRoT, amis uflebac
ar gvaqvs? mas ukve davuwereT Ria werili da am dReebSi
mivutanT. iqac vuwerT, miuxedavad imisa, rom didi pativiscemiT varT ganwyobili
batoni norlandis mimarT da
viciT, rom amerika aris
partniori qveyana, mainc Tavs
uflebas mivcemT, SevaxsenoT,
rom SeerTebulma Statebma,
Tavisi istoriis manZilze,
demokratiisa da Tavisuflebis gamyarebisTvis rTuli gza gaiara. iyo omebi,
didi depresiis periodi.
iyvnen umuSevrebi da ewyoboda maTi buntic, magram saxelmwifo Sedga da uZlieresi gaxda. Cveni saxelmwifo
saqarTvelo gadis am gzas,
umuSevroba da siRatake mefobs qveyanaSi. amitom SevqmeniT es organizacia. Cven
realurad vcdilobT, davexmaroT xalxs. imisTvis rom
ganvaxorcieloT `Semweobis
kalaTis~ proeqti, saWiroa 7
Tu ara, ramdenime adamiani
mainc Cavides SeerTebul
StatebSi da am proeqtisTvis
saWiro saqme gaakeTos. vekiTxebi baton norlands,
aseT proeqts gviblokavT?!
yvela Sexvedra SeTanxmebuli
gvqonda da, faqtobrivad,
CaSales. aseTi ram Tu SeiZleba da demokratiisTvis misaRebia, ar vici. Tu batoni
norlandisgan am werilzec
uars miviRebT, mere SevecdebiT, gavagebinoT yvelas, rom
organizacias, romelic uangarod emsaxureba qarTvel
xalxs, unda daexmaros
gaWirvebul
adamianebs,
blokaven
rogorc
saqarTveloSi, aseve ucxoeTSic da ra xdeba, qarTveli
xalxis winaaRmdeg erToblivi SeTqmulebaa?!
iciT, ukve ras vfiqrob?
etyoba, raRac Zalebs undaT,
rom qarTveli xalxi gaRatakdes da gaRaribdes.
etyoba, fiqroben, rom mere
lukmapuris gulisTvis gamogviyeneben ise, rogorc
CaTvlian saWirod. magaliTad,
Cvens
biWebs
Caaxocvineben avRaneTsa da
eraySi, aq ki, lukmapurisTvis,
visTvisac gauxardebaT, imisTvis migvacemineben xmas
arCevnebSi. albaT, marTla es
undaT.
27
axali ambebi
giorgi
margvelaSvili: verc
Cven da verc Cvenma
partniorebma ver
SevZeliT win
aRvdgomodiT
ruseTs
Tbilisi-saerTaSoriso
sazogadoebis marcxma, daesaja ruseTi 2008 wels
saqarTveloSi
SemoWrisaTvis, moskovs afiqrebina, rom yirimis mitacebac
SerCeboda - ganacxada
saqarTvelos prezidentma
giorgi margvelaSvilma.
„dRes SegviZlia sinanuliT ganvacxadoT, rom Cven
da msoflio Tanamego-
brobam ver SevZeliT am eqvsi wlis ganmavlobaSi gveiZulebina ruseTi gaecnobierebina is, rom msgavsi
qmedebebi araswori da
araefeqtiania” , - ganacxada margvelaSvilma. misi
TqmiT, ruseTis mier gadadgmuli nabijebi, rogoricaa, magaliTad, yirimis
mcxovreblebisTvis rusuli
pasportebis darigeba, aris
2008 wlis omis periodSi
gamoyenebuli taqtikis
gamoZaxili. saqarTvelos
prezidenti saerTaSoriso
sazogadoebas
amjerad
ufro mkacri reagirebisaken mouwodebs, raTa momavalSi kremlma ver SeZlos romelime qveynis teritoriaze samxedro agresiis ganxorcieleba.„unda
moxdes aSkara da Zlieri
sapasuxo qmedebebis formulireba, rac niSnavs imas,
rom msgavsi scenarebi
aRarasdros gameordeba da
gavlenis sferoebis gadanawilebis [rusuli] idea Cavardeba”, - ganacxada giorgi margvelaSvilma.
saqarTvelo imedovnebs,
rom wlis damlevamde
evrokavSirTan xeli moewereba politikuri da
ekonomikuri kavSiris Sesaxeb istoriul xelSerulebas
da es iqneba wlebis ganmavlobaSi mimdinare im prodasavluri
politikis
kulminacia, romelic moskovis gaRizianebas iwvevda.
axali ambebi
28 premieri
axali ambebi
sakomiteto mosmenebi
TbilisSi mdebare
parlamentis SenobaSi
aprilidan
ganaxldeba
saparlamento umravlesobis wevris irakli Ciqovani
varaudobs, rom TbilisSi
mdebare parlamentis SenobaSi sakomiteto mosmenebi uaxloes momavalSi ganaxldeba.
“sakomiteto muSaoba martis bolo aprilis dasawyisSi ganaxldeba. rac Seexeba
sesiebs, amaze vifiqrebT.
quTaisSi marto kenWisyrebi
ar gaimarTeba. samuSao reJimi daZabulia; sesiidan sesiamde gviwves sakomiteto
mosmenebis Catareba. sakomiteto mosmenebis nawilis
quTaisSi Catarebas ar gamovricxav. vecdebiT, rom
quTaisSi gacilebiT momzadebulebi CavideT.” - ganacxada Ciqovanma.
avRaneTSi
qarTveli
samxedroebis naxatebisa da
xelnakeTi
namuSevrebis
gamofena gaimarTa
avRaneTSi ISAF-is misiaSi
monawile 31-e batalionis
samxedro mosamsaxureebma
baza „lezernikze” TavianTi
naxatebisa da xelnakeTi namuSevrebis gamofena moawyves.
RonisZieba samxedro bazaze
mdebare SemecnebiT da
sportul-gamajansaRebel
centrSi gaimarTa.
samxedroebis mier Sesrulebul
namuSevrebze
peizaJebi, religiuri da sxvadasxva Tematikis ko-
mpoziciebia
asaxuli.
gamofenilia aseve, naqargebi da penoplastiT, qviSiT,
qvebiTa da fexsacmlis TasmebiT Seqmnili taZris maketebi.
31-e batalionis meTauris,
vice-polkovnik giorgi meSvelianis gadawyvetilebiT,
gamofenili naxatebi baza
„lezernikze” SemecnebiT da
sportul-gamajansaRebel
centrSi darCeba da momavalSi maT ricxvs, qarTveli samxedro mosamsaxureebis mier Seqmnili axali xelnakeTi nivTebi daemateba.
samxedro mosamsaxureebma
naxatebsa da xelnakeT nivTebze Tavisufal dros baza
„lezernekis” SemecnebiT da
sportul-gamajansaRebel
centrSi imuSaves. centrSi
maT aseve, aqvT saSualeba satrenaJoro
darbazSi
ivarjiSon, samkiTxvelo
kuTxeSi samxedro-istoriul,
literaturul
da
Teologiur wignebs gaecnon
da savele kinoTeatrSi dokumenturi, samxedro-istoriuli da patriotuli
filmebis Cvenebas daeswron.
axali ambebi
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
kritikuli azri muSaobdes?
gana eg SesaZlebeli iqneboda, Tu rom Cven SeCveulni
viyvneT samarTlians msjelobas da yovelsave saqmis rigianad dafasebas da awon-dawonvas? cxadia, rom zemoTxsenebuli garemoeba xels uSlis yovel sazogado saqmis
warmatebas, radganac yovelive usafuZvlo Setakeba
azrisa moiTxovs gardametebuls laparaks, miTqma-moTq-
icis: literatura, fexburTi
da politika. zogadad, kritika mtkivneulad aRiqmeba,
radganac is apriori cudis
TqmasTan asocirdeba. `kritika~ gakritikebis gagebiT
ixmareba, realurad ki,
rogorc leqsikonebSia ganmartebuli, igi ZvelberZnuli zmna `krineinidan~ modis
(laT. cerno), romlis Tavdapirveli mniSvnelobac gayofas, garCevas ukavSirdeba;
bi gvirCevnia. aseT dros bednieric varT da cxovrebac
saamuri gveCveneba, arada,
gvaviwydeba oTaraanT qvriviseuli tkbili sityvis
filosofia: `am gamwarebul
wuTisofelSi tkbili sxva ra
aris, rom sityva iyos...
TvalTmaqcobaa,
sxva
araferi!~
Tavis droze, sabWoTa
saqarTveloSi kritika xSirad iyo partiis ideologiis
ganuyreli nawili da erTgvari jalaTis rols asrulebda. amis saukeTeso magaliTia qarTuli kritika
20-30-ian wlebSi (da Semdegac), ra sibinZures avrcelebda, rogori sisastikiTa da daundoblobiT ebrZoda `partiis generaluri
xazidan~
gadacdomil
`mtrebs~. rogorc akaki
baqraZe
`mwerlobis
moTvinierebaSi~ werda: `skkpis miswrafeba _ erTxel da
sabolood gaexada literaturuli kritika mwerlobis
damsjel razmad, kalmiT
jalaTad _ damarcxda da
Caflavda~, magram `sabWoTa
paranoia~ darCa _ rom
TiTqos gebrZvian, Seni CaZirva
undaT,
yvelaferi
dakveTilia da a. S. sabWouri
stilistikis es uwyveti simi,
mwvave agresiaSi gadasuli,
`JRers~ dResac Tavisi yalbi
paTosiT,
farisevlurideologiuri suliskveTebiTa da fsevdointeleqtualizmiT. axla asea modaSi: rac
ufro bundovnad saubrob da
wer, rac ufro met ucxo
sityvas gamoiyeneb, ufro ganaTlebulisa da `wonianis~
saxeli geqneba!
ilia WavWavaZis zemoT
citirebuli nawyveti aSkarad anaxvebs imasac, rom Cvens
mas, romelic sruliad warmoudgenelia iq, sadac kritikuli azri muSaobs. ase da
am rigad xSirad mravals sityvasa vxarjavT imisaTvis,
raica sruliad ueWveli
unda iyos~, _ werda ilia
WavWavaZe.
Tanamedrove saqarTveloSi kritikuli azris deficitia, Tanac ar dagvaviwydes,
iseT qveyanaSi vcxovrobT,
romelSic sami ram yvelam
frangul enaze is Sefasebas
gulisxmobs, e.i. kritikis
umTavresi daniSnuleba analizia.
axla dekonstruirebul
epoqaSi vcxovrobT da, kritikis nacvlad, krizisi gvidgas (Tumca, rodis vyofilvarT amis gareSe?!). rogorc
Cans, qarTvelebs kritikis
SeCvevis tradicia ara gvaqvs,
simarTles yalbi rituali _
diTirambebi, sadRegrZeloe-
sazogadoebaSi didi xania
araa gacnobierebuli da
gaazrebuli, zogadad, kritikis roli da mniSvneloba.
dRes amas isic emateba, rom
mZime da dangreul socialur yofaSi, romelSic aseTi
momatebuli da gamZafrebulia agresia, sruliad SeuZlebeli xdeba gansxvavebuli
azris Semwynarebloba. Tu
Cven samoqalaqo sazogadoebis Camoyalibebaze vfiqrobT
kritikidan krizisamde
saba metreveli
u
cnauria
adamiani, raRac
Tandayolili
Tviseba aqvs
TviTkmayofilebisa da
Tavmowonebisa.
aseT SemTxvevaSi Znelia
mas raRac uTxra iseTi,
rom mianiSno cudze,
naklze,
gamosasworebelze.
qarTuli andaza:
moyvares pirSi uZraxe,
mters pirs ukanao _
cudad muSaobs. ar
gvaqvs Sinagani mzaoba,
movisminoT da
SeviwynaroT
gansxvavebuli mosazreba,
kritikuli azri,
radganac mas pirad
Seuracxyofad viRebT.
risi bralia? _ dabali
kulturisa da susti
nervebis. Tu Tea
TuTberiZes davujerebT,
qarTveli eri
sensitiuri eria da
mZafrad ganicdis
yvelafers! xSirad
gvgonia, rom, rasac
vakeTebT, rasac
vambobT, saukeTeso,
Seumcdari da
erTaderTia.
radikalizmi da
xasiaTis sixiste bevr
rameSi abrkolebs
adamians, magram am
SemTxvevaSi sazogado
movlenaze vsaubrobT,
imaze, ramac ukeTesi
unda gaxados
xvalindeli dRe. aseT
SemTxvevaSi progresi
SeuZlebelia
profesiuli kritikis
gareSe. amasTanave,
kritika nacnobobamegobrobas unda
gamoricxavdes da
seriozul refleqsur
miukerZoeblobas unda
efuZnebodes, Torem
ZmabiWuri kritikiT ra
varskvlavebic vwyviteT,
etyoba Cvens
dedasamSoblos!
`kritikuli azri ver
dagvidgenia Cvenis viTarebis
Sesaxeb, samarTlianad ver
dagvifasebia Cveni warsuli
da awmyo. kritikulis azris
uqonloba imodenad SesamCnevia CvenSi, rom ar SeiZleba
yuradReba ar miaqcioT, Tu
cotaTi mainc CaukvirdebiT
Cvens azrovnebasa. yovel dawinaurebul sazogadoebaSi
azris sxvadasxvaoba, mravalgvaroba kritikis Sedegia da
sxvadasxva azrisa da mimarTulebis mimdevarT aqvT
iseTi wertili, romelic yvelasaTvis saerToa. CvenSi _ ki
sxvadasxvaoba azrisa kritikulis azris uqonlobis
bralia da Cvenis gaufrTxileblobisa. CvenSi xSirad
erTisa da imave sagnis Sesaxeb imdenad SeuTanxmebels da
winaaRmdegs azrs gaigonebT,
mere iseT sagnebze, romelTa
Sesaxeb morigebulni unda
viyvneT, rom swored gasaocaria... nuTu am gvari uTanxmoeba azrisa, erTmaneTis
gaugebloba samwuxaro ar
aris? gana yovelive ese SesaZlebeli iqneboda, CvenSi rom
#10 (027)
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
(an vocnebobT), maSin mogviwevs Segueba gansxvavebul
(Tundac miuRebel) azrTan,
mogviwevs gacnobiereba imisa, rom SeuZlebelia, yvelas
erTnairad
moswondes,
fiqrobdes, aRiqvamdes da
afasebdes faqtsa Tu movlenas! ise, jer kidev rodis
Tqva qarTvelma adamianma:
simarTlis mTqmels ena moWreso (an cxeni Sekazmuli
unda hyavdeso)?! Tumca ismis
kiTxva, vinaa simarTlis
mTqmeli?
axla Cven mivadeqiT profesionali kritikosisa (Seuvali, principuli da zedmiwevniT kompetenturi) da
profesiuli kritikis problemas. eris, pirovnebis Tavmoyvareobis sakiTxia is, rom
iyos obieqturi, miukerZoebeli da marTali, radgan
`tyuilad qebulma kacmac
ise unda iwyinos, rogorc
tyuilad dawunebulmac~
(ilia). mikerZoeba gamoricxavs obieqtur kvlevas, jansaRi kritika ki ganapirobebs
profesiul zrdas, radganac,
zogadad, kritika emsaxureba
progress. iseT konservatorul sazogadoebaSi ki,
rogorSic Cven gviwevs cxovreba, bevri ram paradoqsia. arsebobs stereotipebi,
romelTa gavlenis gamo veRar gagvirCevia avi da kargi,
ver migviRia axali da ver
gvipovia realuri saxe Cveni
yofisa. icvleba kritikis
stili da formati, magram
sabWouri gadmonaSTis rebrendingia isic, rom miviReT
`tusovkuri~ kulturis Semfasebeli kritika. mogexsenebaT, visac ar ezareba
dRes yvela wers (poetobs,
prozaikosobs),
beWdavs
wignebs (sinamdvileSi makulaturas), awyobs e.w. prezentaciebs, epatiJeba nacnob-axloblebs, sadac aucileblad
Seaqeben, furSetze daleven,
xaWapursac daayoleben da,
SesaZloa, wigni arc waikiTxon! mere ra, Cven xom
qarTvelebi (maSasadame, evropelebi) varT da gviyvars
yuradRebis centrSi yofnac
da `kai cxovrebac~!
kritika qmnida sazogadoebriv azrs. axla aseTi
azris Semqmneli uniWo Jurnalistikaa: televiziebi qmnian fsevdogmirebs, propagandas uweven iseT literaturas, romelsac ara aqvs
araviTari qveteqsti, siRrme,
esTetika. roca sayvedurebi
gaismis, profesiuli kritika
ar gvaqvso, profesionali
kritikosebi (sabednierod,
cota, magram mainc gvyavs)
upasuxeben: Tu mxatvrul
nawarmoebs Rirebuleba ar
eqna, misi kritika azrs kargavso. aseT SemTxvevaze werda merab mamardaSvili: `literaturis kritikosi ver SeZlebs teqstidan verafris
eqsplicirebas ise, rom Tan
Tavad ganviTardes da,
amavdroulad, gaafarToos
wignisa da mkiTxvelis
gamocdilebac~. amitom, faqtobrivad, mimdinare literaturuli procesi daulagebelia, ufro sworad, Seufasebelia. arada, ramdens
hgonia, rom, rasac wers da
qmnis, literaturis istoriisTvis Rirebuli da mniSvnelovania. megobrebisgan
lamis geniosad Seracxili
qarTveli mwerali rogor
unda daarwmuno, rom umniSvnelosa da uxarisxos qmnis!
mogismens? Seismens? _ midi da
daajere!!! erTxel oTar
WilaZem Tqva: kargi kritikosi ufro didi iSviaTobaa,
vidre kargi mweralio. profesiuli kritikis gareSe
literatura ki Seiqmneba,
daiwereba bevri ram, magram
ver ganviTardeba.
isic saTqmelia, rom kritika xSirad moklebulia pasuxismgeblobis grZnobas da
Casafrebulis poziciidan
danaxuls aRwers (ratomRac
ver gitan da ar viReb Sensas).
kritikoss
uWirs
eTikuri normebis dacva,
moSlilia mijnebi da zRvari
ikargeba, pirovnul Seuracxyofamde mivdivarT (dabali
kulturisa da kvalifikaci-
is deficitis gamo) da gakritikebulic Casawixlad emzadeba! xSiria siZulvili,
daundobloba da sisastike.
kritikosma unda moZebnos
zRvari, sad iwyeba pirovnuli da sad mTavrdeba misi
naqnari. eseni gamijnuli unda
iyos, erTmaneTs ar unda
faravdes, magram amas sazogadoebis maRali Segnebac
sWirdeba. fsevdointeleqtualebi da fsevdokulturuli
nawili imuqreba, muStebze
iyureba... `Tavdasxmisa~ da,
Sesabamisad, `Tavdacvis~ teqnologiebi ise kargad gvaqvs aTvisebuli, mtersac ki
gaecineba! rogor unda
akadros gakritikebulma
gamkritikebels iseTi ram,
rac orives Rirsebas Selaxavs?! kritikis funqcia
ukeTesobis perspeqtivazea
aqcentirebuli da ara viRacis tkivilsa da insultamde
misul gancdebze. adamiani
mzad unda iyos yvelafrisTvis. amitom, rames Tu
qmni, kritikis misaRebad (mosasmenad mainc) unda ganewyo.
Tanamedrove litkafeebis
realobam gamaxsena studentobis wlebi: universitetis
mweralTa klubi morig Sexvedras awyobda, darbazi
savse iyo `poetis~ megobrebiTa da axloblebiT, arada,
Seuracxyofilad vigrZeni
Tavi, imdenad mdare xarisxis
poezia ismoda tribunidan da
Tanac, iseTi myvirala xmiTa
da paTetikiT. avdeqi da
vTqvi, es ar aris kargi poezia-meTqi. vaime, iq ambavi
atyda... an rogor gamomiSves
cocxali darbazidan, an me
ra mrjida... mere gavida ramdenime kvira da is poeti
transportSi Semxvda, Tanac
ironiulad ase momesalma:
did kritikoss vaxlavaro.
vupasuxe: ramxela poetic
xar, imodena kritikosi namdvilad var-meTqi. asea
dResac, erTmaneTis ar
gvjera da isic gvaviwydeba,
rom Tanamedrove literatura ar Seiqmneba megobruli
prezentaciebiT.
kritikas
ganviTareba
sWirdeba,
xelSewyoba.
amisTvis aucilebelia profesiuli codna, maRali
kvalifikacia. Tanamedrove
statiebi ufro mimoxilviTia. magaliTad, Tu Teatrmcodne wers, es ufro Teatraluri Jurnalistikaa, Tu
musikismcodnis naazrevs
vkiTxulobT, is musikaluri
Jurnalistikaa da ara formisa da struqturis siRrmiseuli kvleva da analizi.
axla totaluri da agresiuli Jurnalistikis droa,
yvelaferi mimoxilva da
naTlebis sistemianad, skolidan moyolebuli mecnierebis CaTvliT.
CamovyalibdeT (rogorc
axla ityvian) da SevTanxmdeT,
rom profesiuli kritika
ganixilavs avsa da kargs,
alagebs procesebs, Tavis
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axali ambebi
saqarTvelos
kulturis palatam
TbilisSi dagegmili
sergei bezrukovis
Teatris gastrolebi
gaauqma
saqarTvelos kulturis
palatam TbilisSi dagegmili sergei bezrukovis
Teatris gastrolebi gaau-
zedapirze tivtivia.
erTi umTavresi damabrkolebeli ganaTlebis
dabali donecaa. 2006-2007
wlebSi organizaciebma PIRLS
da PISAM-ma saqarTveloSi
Caatares kvleva bavSvebSi
wignierebis donis Sesaxeb.
daadgines, rom saqarTveloSi moswavleTa wignierebis
done Zalian dabalia da
mkveTrad CamorCeba evropis
qveynebis monacemebs. Cven
vdgavarT iseTi qveynebis
gverdiT, rogorebic arian
samxreT afrika, irani da katari _ ai, Tu ar miviReT
ganaTlebis mizanmimarTuli
ngrevis Sedegi! garda amisa,
umaRles saswavleblebSi
moiSala da daingra akademiuri codnis gadacemisa da
miRebis tradicia. es qveyana
xelaxlaa asawyobi Tavis ga-
adgils miuCens yvelasa da
yvelafers, argumentirebulad imsjelebs da daasabuTebs mizez-Sedegobriv
kavSirebs, migvaniSnebs movlenaTa ganviTarebis Sinagan
kanonzomierebaze, gezsa da
mimarTulebas miscems cnobiers, gemovnebas, enasa da
cxovrebis stils. amasTanave,
is unda gulisxmobdes
meTodologiur simkacres,
misi mecnieruli safuZveli
unda iyos aSkara da gasagebi.
kritika gvWirdeba, rogorc
indikatori imisa, rom ar
davkmayofildeT arsebuliT,
miRweuliT, rom mudmiv ganviTarebasa da dinamikaSi viyoT.
kritika
azrovnebis
Tavisuflebacaa, pirovnuli
statusia da amitom ar
mogeridoT, ar damzogoT, ar
damindoT, CamwixleT, gadamiareT, oRond iyaviT konstruqciulni da obieqturni.
da kidev erTi, albaT,
umTavresi _ kritikosis profesionalizmi unda efuZnebodes im sferosa da im adamianis siyvaruls, romelTa
Sesaxebac wers. siyvaruli
Sobs keTilganwyobas. ufro
primitiulad Tu vityviT,
ebrZvi codvas da ara codvils!
arCevnis saqmea: Tu gvinda
azrovneba ukritiko, Sablonuri; cnobiereba _ miTologiuri; mentaloba _
batonymuri, monuri, maSin
ganveridoT kritikasa da
kritikuls, davelodoT, vin
gvetyvis saamurs, saqebars da
erTad vicekvoT dol-garmonze!
qma, amis Sesaxeb kulturis
palatam “feisbuqze” gancxadeba gaavrcela. “dRes
gavrcelebuli ruseTis saxalxo artistebis werilis
gamo, romelic mxars uWers
ruseTis
prezidents
vladimer putins, mezobeli
qveynis ukrainis teritoriis okupaciaSi. saqarTvelos
kulturis palatam miiRo
gadawyvetileba, gauqmdes
maisSi dagegmili sergei
bezrukovis Tatris gastrolebi TbilisSi. kidev
erTxel gvinda gamovucxadoT mxardaWera ukrainas
mis suverenitets teritoriul mTlianobas da Cven
megobar gmir ukrainel
xalxs”-naTqvamia gancxadebaSi.
aRsaniSnavia, rom yirimis
sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT
prezident vladimer putinis poziciis mxardamWer
gancxadebas 86 xelovani
aweres xels. maT Soris arian: ruseTis xelovnebaTa
akademiis prezidenti zurab
wereTeli, ruseTis saxalxo
artisti, baleroni nika
ciskariZe, cnobili rusi
msaxiobi sergei bezrukovi
da sxvebi.
axali ambebi
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patarZlebi, patimrebi da socialuri kinematografi
daviT buxrikiZe
u
qmro da
depresiuli
qalebi, cixis
damTrgunveli
atmosfero da
iqve
gamomwyvdeuli,
cxovrebis normaluri
ritmidan amovardnili
kacebi... axalgazrda
reJisoris, TinaTin
yajriSvilis filmi
`patarZlebi~ swored im
atmosferos asaxavs,
romelmac Tavis droze
lamis mTeli qveyana
SeZra. radgan
oficialuri qorwinebis
gareSe colebs patimar
qmrebTan ar uSveben,
isini cixeSi xelis
mosawerad SehyavT.
badragi karTan
Sehyvirebs, _ `kari
gaaReT, patarZlebi
modian!~ da isinic
Sedian sxvadasxva asakis,
socialuri wrisa da
bedis qalebi _
axalgazrda Tu Suaxnis
qalebi, soflidan
Camosuli xanSiSesuli
qalbatonebi. xelis
mowera iqve xdeba,
bednierebisTvis sul
aTi wuTia gamoyofili!
danarCeni drama da
bedisweraa...
reJisoris, prodiuserisa
da scenaristis, TinaTin yajriSvilis filmi berlinis
64-e saerTaSoriso kinofestivalze `panoramas~ seqciaSi ramdenjerme uCvenes. maT
Soris `sinemaqsis~ prestiJul
darbazSi, sadac ZiriTadad
berlinales sakonkurso
filmebs uCveneben. `patarZlebi~ misi pirveli srulmetraJiani mxatvruli filmia.
gadaRebuli aqvs dokumenturi da moklemetraJiani
filmebi. aris ramdenime
filmis prodiuseri.
`patarZlebi~ qarTulfranguli ko-produqciaa,
romelic saqarTvelosa da
safrangeTis kinocentrebis
mier dafinansda. scenaris
avtorebi arian Tavad TinaTin yajriSvili da daviT
CubiniSvili. sxvaTa Soris,
TinaTini filmis prodiusericaa postproduqcia safrangeTSia gakeTebuli, ramac filmis reklamasa da
warmatebaze udavod imoqmeda. filmis operatoria
gamocdili da daxvewili
goga devdariani. kompozitori _ rim lourensi,
romelmac
musikalurad
gaaforma sxva filmebic. maT
Soris, `Savi TuTa~ da `bude~.
`premieri~ TinaTin yajriSvils misi axali
filmis, berlinis saerTaSoriso kinofestivalisa da, zogadad, qarTuli kinos problemebze
esaubra.
maT gamouval mdgomareobazea, daxSul sivrceze,
romelsac ver gaarRvev...
kidev sxvisi wesebiT nakarnaxev cxovrebasa da fatalizmze. Tqven mier naxsenebi
statia rom wavikiTxe, gamixarda; rom erTma adamianma
mainc gaSifra, ris Tqmac
msurda. swored aseT `wakiTxva-gaSifvras~ veli kritikosisgan, iyos Tundac Zalian
kritikuli, magram saqmiani da
gasagebi.
_ pirvel rigSi, axlaxan
dasrulebul berlinis
kinofestivalis Sesaxeb
minda gkiTxoT. Tqveni
axali filmi
`patarZlebi~ `panoramas~
seqciaSi ramdenjerme
uCvenes. germanul
presaSic bevri
saintereso ram daiwera.
ra SegiZliaT, ufro
detalurad gviTxraT?
rac, ase vTqvaT, presis
miRma darCa.
_ roca iseTi masStabis
kinofestivalSi monawileob,
rogoric berlinalea, reJisorisaTvis es mniSvnelovani faqtia. calke istoriaa
Tavad gadamRebi jgufis
wevrebis voiaJi. didi dro
da Zalisxmeva dagvWirda mgzavrobis organizebisa da
dafinansebisTvis... lamis
bolo dReebSi gairkva, rom
mTavari rolis Semsrulebeli, msaxiobi mari kitia orsulad iyo; giorgi masxaraSvili ki fexmotexili CaviyvaneT berlinSi. simarTle
giTxraT, mec pirvelad vnaxe
filmi did ekranze, mayurebelTan erTad. bevri saintereso kiTxva daisva ganxilvis dros. gamixarda da cota
gamikvirda kidec, rom filmis problemac da mTavari
gmirebic axlobeli da
gasagebi aRmoCnda mayureblisTvis.
_ ramdenadac vici,
Tqveni filmi berlinis
kinofestivalis
seleqcionerma, nikolai
nikitinma erovnul
kinocentrSi naxvisas
SearCia. mainc ra iyo
mTavari, ris gamoc man
swored `patarZlebs~
mianiWa upiratesoba?
_ diax, filmi berlinis
kinofestivalis `panoramis~
_ radgan Tavad axseneT,
ra azri gaqvT
kritikosebze?
ganixilavT maT
Tanamoazreebad, Tu
isini ufro
antagonistebad
warmogidgeniaT?
TinaTin yajriSvili:
`kritikosebisgan
analitikur Sefasebas
veli, rasac kinos
codna da filmisadmi
keTilganwyoba
sWirdeba~
seleqtorma, nikolai nikitinma TbilisSi, kinocentrSi
naxa da daintereseba gamoxata. Tumca `patarZlebi~ manamdec hqonda nanaxi saraevos
festivalze, `sinelinkis~
farglebSi. mTxoves, berlinis festivalisTvis filmis
bolo versia gamegzavna. nikitins gansakuTrebiT moewona mTavari rolis Semsrulebeli mari kitia. aseve, aRniSna, filmis yvela gmiri imdenad bunebrivia, verc if-
iqreb, rom es qalebi TamaSoben am scenebso. moewona,
rom `filmi adamianTa damsxvreul, faqiz grZnobebzea da
cixe mxolod pirobiTobaa~...
_ erT-erTma
kinokritikosma Tqveni
namuSevari `berZnuli
tragediis
transformaciad~
gaiazra, zogma mas
`wminda adamianuri
drama~ uwoda:
eTanxmebiT amgvar
mosazrebebs?
_ Zalze mniSvnelovania,
rom scenarze daTo CubiniSvilTan erTad vimuSave. mimaCnia, rom is yvelaze kar-
gad grZnobs kinos Sinagan
bunebas, mis kanonebs da misgan uamravi ram viswavle.
mTavari, razec vfiqrobdiT,
iyo ara ubralod ambis
Txroba, aramed ori adamianis
bediswera, romelic TiTqos
winaswar gansazRvrulia. anu
filmi raRac TvalsazrisiT
_ kritikosebi, samwuxarod,
mxolod momwons-ar momwons
SefasebebiT Semoifarglebian da karieras sarkazmiTa da
cinizmiT ufro ikeTeben. es
Zalian Sors aris profesionalizmisgan. kritikosisgan
analitikur Sefasebas veli,
rasac kinos codna da filmisadmi keTilganwyoba sWirdeba. samwuxarod, amas ver
vgrZnob qarTveli kritikosebisgan. CemTvis bevrad misaRebia, adamianma sworad
Seafasos filmis nakli an
kargi mxareebi. kiTxvebi dasvas, damelaparakos, sakuTari
Sexedulebebi gulwrfelad
gamiziaros, vidre darbazidan Cumad gavides. an darbazSi ovaciebiT momilocos
da zurgs ukan mlanZRos.
bevrs kargis Tqmac eSinia.
etyoba, advilia, ar mogwondes, sakuTari maRali gemovnebis warmosaCenad... xSirad trafaretuli SefasebebiT
Semoifarglebian,
romelic zedapirul analizs
#10 (027)
premieri
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ver scdeba.
_ `patarZlebi~ Tqveni
pirveli srulmetraJiani
scenarisgan erTgvari
distancireba?
_ geTanxmebiT, bevri axal-
eba. ra Tanxac amgvari filmis Seqmnaze ixarjeba, ufro
meti marketings sWirdeba.
basaviT viReb, imitom rom
vici Cveni realoba. qveyanas,
romelsac TiTqmis aRar aqvs
kinoskola, romelSic mTeli
sistema, anu kinoseqtori,
sul oTxi milioni lariT
finansdeba; romelSic kinosa
da limonaTis warmoeba erTnairad ibegreba, SeuZlebelia
vifiqroT kinos aRmavlobaze. qarTuli filmebis warmatebul nabijebs sazRvargareT, qveynis SigniT Semxvedri, adekvaturi qmedebebi
sWirdeboda. kino da saerTod, kultura mxolod salaparako Temaa da mxolod
hobis donezea dRes Cven qveyanaSi. garda amisa, ar arsebobs erTiani kulturis
politika, romelSic kinoc
moiazreba.
bevri miiCnevs, rom
Teatraluri skola
mxolod `afuWebs~ kinos
msaxiobs da rom
filmSi TamaSs,
Teatrisgan gansxvavebiT,
sruliad sxva,
gamorCeuli manera,
plastika da xerxi
sWirdeba. risi
tradiciac, samwuxarod,
ar gagvaCnia. ramdenad
realurad geCvenebaT
calke kinomsaxiobTa
skolis Camoyalibeba?
_ msaxiobi aris yvelaze
mniSvnelovani adamiani kinoSi. swored mas miaqvs mayureblamde yvela saTqmeli. xandaxan mgonia, rom am profesias SecdomiT irCeven adamianebi da sul sxva miznebisTvis iyeneben. rac Seexeba
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tutidan
gadmoRebuli
sistema _ erTi pedagogis
aRzrdili jgufebi _ aRar
amarTlebs.
samwuxarod,
molodinic ki ar aris, rom
raime Seicvleba. yvela
morgebulia dRevandel realobas da kargad grZnobs
Tavs. amitom gasagebia, rom
aravis surs komfortis darRveva.
_ ramdenad aris
SesaZlebeli tabus axsna
kinoSi? SeZleben Tu ara
qarTveli reJisorebi
iseT Temebze filmebis
gadaRebas, romelic
ukavSirdeba religias,
fundamentalizms,
seqsualur konteqsts, an
politikas?
_ kino, pirvel rigSi, so-
kadri filmidan `farajanovi~
mxatvruli filmia.
manamde dokumentur da
moklemetraJian
filmebze muSaobdiT.
xarT ramdenime filmis
prodiuseri _
`farajanovi~, `Savi
TuTa~, `bude~, `ocnebaparizi~, `ucnobi
jariskacebi~, `TeTri ara,
Savi~. ratom arCieT
reJisura da
daubrundebiT Tu ara
isev prodiuserobas?
_ simarTle giTxraT. or-
gazrda reJisori Tavad cdilobs, daamtkicos, rom scenaristicaa. sinamdvileSi
kargi scenari marTlac seriozuli
problemaa.
vfiqrob, es movlena xarisxiani kinodramaturgiis deficitis Sedegia. ise, miyvars,
rodesac kinoscenarze ramdenime adamiani erTdroulad muSaobs.
_ xom ar migaCniaT, rom
kinoSi `art-hauzi~ ufro
reJisorebis ambiciebis
bevrjer ukiTxavT CemTvis
Jurnalistebs, _ `rodis gadaiReben qarTvelebi namdvilad karg films?~ (gulisxmoben meinstrims). Cemi pasuxia, _ verasodes! axla Cemi
filmi `traibekas~ festivalze mTavar konkurszea
miwveuli. imis fulic ar
maqvs, presagenti aviyvano, an
erTi msaxiobi mainc waviyvano, maSin rodesac `traibeka~ amerikeli kinovarskvlavebis Seqmnili festival-
kadri filmidan `patarZlebi~
kadri filmidan `patarZlebi~
jer davamTavre kinouniversiteti. jer rogorc reJisorma, Semdeg ki prodiuseris profesiis ararsebobis
gamo kinoSi momiwia misi Seswavla. rogorc prodiuserma, vimuSave ramdenime marTlac saintereso filmze.
ara mgonia, rom reJisura da
prodiuseroba erTmaneTs
xels uSlides. amitom aucileblad gavagrZeleb orive
profesiiT muSaobas.
_ axalgazrda
reJisorebi ZiriTadad,
sakuTari scenaris
mixedviT gadaRebas
amjobineben. rogor
ggoniaT, sakuTari
saTqmeli reJisors
sxvisi scenarisa Tu
istoriis mixedviT
ufro ar gauioldeba?
xom ar aris
reJisorisTvis ukeTesi
dasakmayofilebladaa
mogonili da naklebad
asaxavs realobas?
zogjer es Tavis
marTlebas hgavs, radgan
xarisxiani da xSirad
ZviradRirebuli
meinstrim-filmis
gadaReba zogjer ufro
rTulia.
_ gansxvaveba gaclebiT
martivia, vidre aseTi Teoriuli mosazrebebi. saavtoro
kino mayurebels sTavazobs im
realobas an im ambavs, rac,
ase vTqvaT, mayurebels ar
unda, rom daemarTos. meinstrimi ki aris is, razec mayurebeli ocnebobs; rac surs
da rac TiTqmis arasodes
axdeba. konkias istoria meinstrimis
dramaturgiis
klasikaa, amis keTebas Zalian
didi fuli, uamravi profesionali, bazrisa da masebis
fsiqologiis mcodne sWird-
ia da didi tramplinia filmis jgufis wevrisTvis da
msaxiobisTvis... Cven gaWirvebul qveyanaSi vcxovrobT da
es realoba yvelasTvis mZimea.
Tu rames vaxerxebT, erTeuli adamianebis didi xnis
Sromis Sedegia da ara erTiani procesebis.
_ qarTuli kinos kidev
erTi seriozuli
problemaa msaxiobi.
swavlas, Cvens kinouniversitetSi arc erTi profesia
saTanado doneze ar iswavleba. studentebma mxolod
moyoliT ician, rogoria gadasaRebi moedani, gadamRebi
jgufis organizeba da erTad
muSaoba. es daaxloebiT
igivea, pianists mouyveT,
rogoria fortepiano da ra
JReradoba aqvs mas, xSirad
moasmeninoT sxvisi dakvra,
Semdeg mas uwodoT pianisti
da moiTxovoT misgan virtuozuli Sesruleba!
aucilebelia cvlilebebi
Cvens kinoskolaSi. Sesacvlelia studentebis miRebis
wesi, Sesaqmnelia axali programebi. odesRac sabWoTa
kinoskolidan da sakavSiro
kinematografiuli insti-
cialuri xelovnebaa. ra Temebzec sazogadoebaSi ar
saubroben, im Temebze kinos
ar iReben. Cven, cxadia, gvaklia gulaxdiloba. SeiZleba
dRes sazogadoeba arc imsaxurebs aseT gulaxdilobas da
amitom reJisorebs sazogadoebis `dasajijgnad~ Tavi
ar emetebaT.
_ dabolos, Tqveni
gegmebis Seaxeb. axal
filmze xom ar
muSaobT?
_ uamravi gegma maqvs;
ufro zustad, proeqtebi,
romelzec vmuSaob. ise,
winaswar ar miyvars saubari,
ukve axali filmis premieraze dagpatiJebT... da danarCenze mere visaubroT.
_ kritikosebi ukve
alaparakdnen `axali
qarTuli kinos~ Sesaxeb.
sxvaTa Soris,
ucxoeTSic... zogi ufro
Sors midis da
ruminuli kinos
fenomens ixsenebs am
konteqstSi; amboben da
iwereba, rom qarTul
kinosac male SeuZlia
miaRwios am simaRles.
ra Sexeduleba gaqvT am
sakiTxze: sad aris da
saiT midis `axali
qarTuli kino~?
_ am Sefasebebs waxalise-
kadri filmidan `Savi TuTa~
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folkloris saxelmwifo centri
axal proeqtze muSaobs
wels rom iwerdnen 95 wlis
moxucis monayols. warmoidgineT, ra Soreul wlebSi gadavdivarT. es masala
minimum saukune-naxevrisaa da
Zalian mdidari masalaa. mxolod xalxuri leqsebi xom
ar aris, gvaqvs zRaprebi,
miTebi, legendebi, gamocanebi, andazebi. amas erTvis
leqsikonic. wigni yvela TaobisTvisaa gankuTvnili da
yvela didi siamovnebiT waikiTxavs. unda aRvniSno, rom
es iqneba marTlac uZvirfasesi gamocema imitomac, rom
Cveni uwmindesis, kaTolikospatriarqis ilia meoris bavSvobis wlebis Canawerebia. amitom gadavwyviteT, rom uwmindess mivuZRvnaT, radgan es
misi kuTxea da misi bavSvobis
droa gaCerebuli.
maka svimoniSvili
f
olkloris
saxelmwifo
centris axali
proeqtis
Sesaxeb
`premiers~
centris
zepirsityvierebis
mimarTulebis
xelmZRvaneli eTer
TaTaraiZe esaubra:
_ rogorc cnobilia,
folkloris
saxelmwifo centri axal
proeqtze muSaobs da
axli wignis gamosacemad
emzadeba. Tu SeiZleba,
mogviyeviT am proeqtis
Sesaxeb.
_ am wignSi Seva gasuli
saukunis 1936-37 wlebSi Cawerili masala. gvaqvs sami
Semkrebis _ simon gujaraiZis,
marsagiSvilisa da mariam xuciSvilis mier Cawerili
masalebi. gujaraiZem da marsagiSvilma
dagvitoves
zepirsityvierebis 66 nimuSi.
sainteresoa, rom gujaraiZemarsagiSvilis koleqcias
erTvis giorgi leoniZis
araCveulebrivi recenzia,
metic, me vityodi, Zalian
sagulisxmo werili. mwerali
pirdapir ambobs, rom es aris
araCveulebrivi
masala,
Sekrebili am ori moxeve
Semkrebis mier. giorgi leoniZem maT honorarad dauwesa 500 maneTi, maSin es Tanxa
cota ar iyo, da sTxova maT,
visac am adamianebTan urTierToba hqonda, wasaxaliseblad miecaT 500 maneTi, raTa
gaegrZelebinaT am masalis
mopoveba-Cawera. leoniZe
_ sainteresoa, rogor
aRmoaCineT Tqvens
arqivSi mariam
xuciSvilis koleqcia,
romelic manamde
dakargulad iyo
miCneuli?
eTer TaTaraiZe:
`yvela ojaxSi gvinda mivakvlioT
mTqmelebis fotosuraTebs, biografiebs~
leqsi. sainteresoa, rom sazogadoeba, specialistebis
garda, mas rogorc mxolod
prozaikoss, ise icnobs.
swored xalxuri sazomiT
gawyobili leqsebi gvxvdeba
66 nimuSs Soris, rogorc
xalxuri zepirsityvierebis
nimuSi. es, ra Tqma unda, leoniZis Tvalsa da guls ar
gamohparvia. rac Seexeba mesame Semkrebs. es yvelaze mniSvnelovania. es aris mariam
xuciSvili _ moxeve gergetidan, romelmac 20 wlisam
sagangebod iswavla werakiTxva.
_ 20 wlis asakSi
zepirsityvierebis
Casawerad iswavla werakiTxva?
_ diax, mas Zalian didi
aRfrTovanebuli iyo da recenziaSi wers, rom manamde
moxevuri xalxuri zepirsityvierebis mxolod ramdenime nimuSi iyo gamoqveynebuli gazeT `iveriaSi~, am kuTxis danarCen masalas ki
saqarTvelo ar icnobda. mwerali iqve dasZens, rom gujaraiZe-marsagiSvilis am
koleqciaSi, aseve, gvxvdeba
aleqsandre yazbegis ori
gemovneba hqonda. mariami
grZnobda, rom mis garSemo
araCveulebrivi mTxrobeli
iyo. is marTlac nanatr
droSi cxovrobda, es Zvirfasi masala okeanesaviT iyo
mis irgvliv. amitom iswavla
wera-kiTxva da zepirsityvierebis nimuSebis Cawera
daiwyo. saocaria, magram,
rogorc gamocdili folkloristi, is axdens am Canawerebis pasportizaciasac,
urTavs gamaognebel ganmartebebs. mas mTaSi ojaxi ar
darCenia, rom ar Sesuliyo.
mariams Svilebi ar hyavda da
mTeli misi STamomavloba es
Canawerebia. mariam xuciSvilma marTlac mniSvnelovnad
Zvirfasi STamomavloba datova.
_ am wignSi mxolod am
sami Semkrebis Canawerebi
Seva?
_ iciT, ra aris? es Sekrebili masala emTxveva folkloristikis fuZis Camyrelis
vaxtang kotetiSvilis Semowiruli koleqciebis dros,
anu es aris dro, rodesac
kotetiSvili
pirdapir
avalebda saqarTvelos yvela
kuTxis warmomadgenlebs, rom
yvelas am mxriv raRac
gaekeTebina da rac SeiZleba
didi masala Semosuliyo. masTan erTad gverds ver avuvli vaxtang kotetiSvilis
megobars dimitri arayiSvils, romelic yovelTvis
gverdSi edga megobars.
rodesac vaxtangi daxvrites,
erTaderTma dimitri arayiSvilma gabeda mis saxlSi misvla da oboli bavSvebisTvis
produqtis mitana, maSin
rodesac maTi gvaris xsenebac ki ar SeiZleboda da saSiSi iyo. am orma bumberazma
folkloristma namdvili
safuZvlebi Seqmna Cvens qveyanaSi. unda vTqva, rom Cven
jer kidev fiqrsa da ganxilvis procesSi varT. im drois
jer kidev uamravi masala Semodis, amitom samuSao Zalian
bevria.
_ romeli TaobisTvis
iqneba es wigni
gankuTvnili da vin
muSaobs masze?
_ wignze muSaobs profesori amiran arabuli. samuSao, rogorc aRvniSne,
Zalian Sromatevadia. warmoidgineT, es masala Cawerilia Zvel dialeqtze. 1936
_ mariam xuciSvils darCa
ZmisSvilebi, romlebsac,
aseve, didi amagi aqvT zepirsityvierebis ganviTarebaSi.
gulnaz
xuciSvili
yovelTvis gveubneboda, rom
mamidamisma Sekriba Zalian
didi masala, magram is
ukvalod gaqra. Cvenc vicodiT, rom arsebobda es
koleqcia, magram sad iyo,
aravisTvis ar iyo cnobili.
mas Semdeg, rac folkloris
centris arqivSi arsebuli
masala cifrul formatSi
gadavida, sabednierod, aRmovaCineT mariam xuciSvilis es
uZvirfasesi Canawerebi. Cven
ar viciT, vin an rodis Semogvwira es koleqcia. mariami ambobda, rom viRacam
waiRo misgan es masala, magram ver ixsenebda, vin.
CvenTvis ucnobia am adamianis
vinaoba, magram madloba mas,
rom es Canawerebi daikarga.
_ vin daafinansebs wigns
da rodisTvis igegmeba
misi gamocema?
_ wigni Zalian male gamova. kulturis saministrom es
proeqti ukve daafinansa. mxolod detalebis dazustebas
velodebiT. radgan es ar iqneba mxolod mSralad wignis
gamocema, vapirebT eqspediciebis dawyebas. Cven
dafiqsirebuli gvaqvs gujaraiZe-marsagiSvilis
koleqciaSi mTqmelebis vinaoba da maTic, vinc mariam
xuciSvils uyveboda am ambebs. yvela ojaxSi (saubaria
50 ojaxze) gvinda mivakvlioT mTqmelebis fotosuraTebs, biografiebs. amis
garda, gvinda 1936-37 wlebis
moxevuri eTnotipaJis Zveli
foto saojaxo albomebidan.
swored am mTqmelebis,
Semkrebebis fotogamofenebis fonze moxdeba wignis
wardgineba.
#10 (027)
premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
m
aTi kavSiri
omma ganamtkica,
Tumca
mSvidobianma
dReebma
yvelaferi
Tavis adgilze daayena.
msoflio
kinematografis ori
eqstravaganturi
varskvlavis
damoukidebelma vnebam
omis Semdgom cxovrebas
ver gauZlo.
mkacri gabenisa da epataJuri
ditrixis romani eqvs weliwads
gagrZelda. magram es iyo erTgulebisa da Ralatis wlebi.
marlens ar surda, mTlianad
gabenis kuTvnileba gamxdariyo,
Tumca mis cxovrebaSi is idealur mamakacad darCa.
`yvelaze damaintrigebeli
qali, romelsac me odesme vicnobdi~, _ ambobda vesternis mefe
jon ueini, marlen ditrixze.
marleni qeraTmiani angelozidan epataJur qalad gadaiqca,
romelmac ukve icoda Tavisi momxibvlelobis Zala da magnitiviT izidavda mamakacebsa da qalebsac ki.
mis gardaqmnas xels uwyobda
marlenis erTguli pigmalioni _
reJisori jozef fon Sternbergi, swored man misca marlenis
saxes sabediswero da sevdiani gamometyveleba. arc erT msaxiobs
ar Seuqmnia sakuTar Tavze amdeni miTi, ramdenic ditrixma Seqmna.
marlenma scenad airCia ara
mxolod gadasaRebi moedani,
aramed yoveldRiuri cxovreba.
is TamaSobda, magram Tavis TavTan
yovelTvis harmoniaSi iyo.
marleni didi xnis ganmavlobaSi akvirdeboda niWier frang
msaxiobs. Jani amerikaSi holivudis dasapyrobad Cavida. marlens
ratomRac ar moswonda gabenis
Tavdajerebuloba da cecxlovani
xasiaTi, misi saxis uxeSi nakvTebi
da xrinwiani xma, rasac Wkuidan
gadahyavda mTeli safrangeTi.
samSobloSi cnobili da yvelasTvis sayvareli gabeni amerikaSi Tavs ucxod da usargeblod
grZnobda. im dros, rodesac marleni, qameleoniviT, yvelanair
pirobas ergeboda. mSobliuri
berlini man advilad gacvala
holivudsa da fufunebaze _ mas
ojaxis Sesanaxad fuli sWirdeboda. qalurobasTan erTad, marleni `kabaSi gamowyobili mamakaci iyo~. is arCenda qaliSvils
marias, qmars rudolf zibers da
mis sayvarels.
kafe `parizul cxovrebaSi~
Sexvedram ki orive msaxiobis
cxovreba Secvala. gabenisTvis
xeli ar SeuSlia marlenis gverdiT mjdom hemingueis, romelic
marlenisTvis megobarze meti iyo,
ar Seucbunebia mis romans re-
Jan gabeni da marlen ditrixi
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Zvirfasi oficrisTvis omi wodebebiTa da ordenebiT dasrulda.
erTmaneTisgan Sors orive gmirulad ibrZoda.
axali sicocxle
erTi siyvarulis istoria
konservatori Janisa da
epataJuri marlenis romani
markTan da Worebs, romlebic
marlenis garSemo ar cxreboda.
is xedavda mxolod qals, romelsac Tavis yofil striptizior
colSi da SemTxveviT sayvarlebSi eZebda, ditrixic aRfrTovanebuli iyo gabeniT, mogvianebiT is
Tavis memuarebSi dawers: `gabeni
supermamakaci iyo, romelsac yvela qali eZebs. is srulyofileba
iyo~.
miniparizi amerikis
gulSi
ekranze gabeni cxovrobda,
erTi wamiTac ar yofila
moCvenebiTi, is Tavis Tavs TamaSobda. misi mRelvare temperamentisa da uxeSi garegnobis ukan
lmobieri guli imaleboda, savse
sinaziTa da siyvaruliT Tavisi
varskvlavis _ marlenis mimarT.
nuTu, 40 wlis zRurblze,
mravali imedgacruebis Semdeg, is
mainc Sexvda namdvil siyvaruls?
amaSi gabens eWvi ar epareboda.
msaxiobebi kaliforniaSi, losanjelesTan axlos dasaxldnen.
ditrixma Jans namdvili frangu-
li kuTxe mouwyo. rodesac Janma
uari Tqva amerikul kerZebze,
marlenma eleganturi winsafari
gaikeTa da qurasTan dadga.
ditrixi mSvenieri kulinari
gaxldaT da gabens franguli
samzareulos
kerZebiT
anebivrebda. Janis daxmarebiT man
kargad iswavla franguli da
erTmaneTs mxolod gabenis mSobliur enaze esaubrebodnen.
ditrixs Teatrsa da operaSi
siaruli uyvarda, kiTxulobda
hemingueis xelnawerebs. es ki
gabens drois fuW kargvad miaCnda, magram es sulac ar uSlida
xels siyvarulSi.
problemebi mogvianebiT daiwyo. konservator msaxiobs aRizianebda marlenis ucnauri damokidebuleba nebismier qalTan.
amasTanave, is qmarTan gayras ar
apirebda. marlens Taviseburad
uyvarda rudi da aseTi cxovrebiT sruliad kmayofili iyo. amis
garda, man sakuTar Tavs patarpatara sasiyvarulo garTobebis
uflebac misca. gabeni saSinlad
eWvianobda.
Janis Rirsebas akninebda isic,
rom sanam is amerikaSi netarebda,
misi sayvareli safrangeTi germaneli okupantebis zewolis qveS
itanjeboda.
magram Jani patrioti iyo da
yovelTvis safrangeTis erTguli darCeboda. man miatova marleni da kariera amerikaSi, raTa
saomar moqmedebebSi CarTuliyo.
samxedro-savele
cebisTvis koncertebs marTavda. germanuli warmoSoba sulac
ar avaldebulebda faSistebis
erTgulebas. marlens mTeli
guliT sZulda hitleri da misi
ideebi. marleni bednieri iyo
mokavSireTa gamarjvebaSi Tavisi
maTi Semdegi Sexvedra SedarebiT civi iyo. vneba Cacxra, SenarCunda mxolod Zlieri urTierTdamokidebuleba.
omis Semdeg Janma parizSi bina
daiqirava, marlenic masTan Cavida. uTanxmoeba, romelic omamdec arsebobda, gaZlierda.
samxedro cxovrebiT daRlili
gabeni myudro budesa da mzrunvel colze ocnebobda.
marleni ki arsebobisTvis
ibrZoda. mas ufulod cxovreba
ar SeeZlo da rudisTan ganqorwinebaze arc ki fiqrobda. Janma
da marlenma erTad iTamaSes
frangul filmSi `martin rumaniaki~, sadac TvalnaTliv Canda
maTi Camqrali siyvarulis anarekli. filmi Cavarda da kinokritikosebis mkacri Sefasebebi daimsaxura. ditrixma gadawyvita, saSvelad amerikisTvis miemarTa. iq
mas elodnen.
misi wasvlis win gabenma yvelafers wertili dausva: is Tu
wava, maT Soris yvelaferi
damTavrdeba.
marleni holivudSi wavida. is
darwmunebuli iyo, rom eWviani,
magram erTguli Jani mas ar miatovebda. es, ubralod, SeuZlebeli iyo. erTxans isini erTmaneTs werilebs swerdnen, magram
male gabenis moTminebis fiala
aivso. mobezrda mTeli es miTiuri sasiyvarulo TamaSebi, mas
namdvili coli sWirdeboda.
1946 wlis ivlisSi marlenma
gabenis ukanaskneli werili miiRo:
`Sen iyavi, xar da iqnebi Cemi
erTaderTi namdvili siyvaruli,
saubedurod, vgrZnob, rom
dagkarge, Tumca erTad kargad
viyaviT. me Sen udidesi sinanuliT gagixseneb, Rrma tkiviliTa
da usasrulo mwuxarebiT~.
erTi wlis Semdeg ditrixi
parizSi dabrunda, magram mxolod
romani
1943 wlis aprilSi Jan gabeni
Sarl de golis armiis rigebSi
Sevida. is CrdiloeT afrikaSi
gagzavnes, sadac germanelebisa
da mokavSireTa jarebis sastiki
dapirispireba mimdinareobda.
male JanTan marlenic gaemgzavra.
mas aRar SeeZlo cariel saxlSi marto darCena. marleni gabenisgan bavSvs eloda, romelic
yovel wams Jans axsenebda.
marlenma aborti gaikeTa da
alJirSi gaemgzavra. is jariska-
wvlilis SetaniT, Tumca misTvis
mTavari _ gabenis povna iyo. Jani
ar eloda mis naxvas tankebsa da
jariskacebs Soris. marlenma
jipi daiqirava da javSansatanko
diviziisken gaemarTa, sadac yvelas Tvalwin gabenis mklavebSi
aRmoCnda.
samxedroebTan erTad mogzaurobis gamo, marlenma Tavi ormag safrTxeSi Caigdo.
misi mokvlisTvis hitlerma
STambeWdavi jildo daawesa, germaniam zurgi Seaqcia Tavis qalRmerTs, rodesac ditrixma ganacxada, rom faSistebis daxmareba ar surda.
mogvianebiT is yveboda,
rogor dahyveboda jariskacebs,
eZina miwaze, rogor eyineboda
TiTebi mTebSi da rogor acilebda ukanasknel gzaze samxedroebs.
mas uzomod moswonda Tavisi axali roli. marlenisa da misi
civ Tavazianobas gadaawyda, metic, gabeni mas aSkarad gaurboda!
ori wlis Semdeg Jani model
dominik furnieze daqorwinda da
sabolood moipova didi xnis
nanatri ojaxuri bedniereba da
bavSvebi. 1976 wlis 15 noembers
Jan gabeni mSvidad gardaicvala
da, rogorc marleni ambobda,
misi sulis naxevari waiRo.
ramdenime xnis Semdeg daavadebuli da daberebuli marleni Tavis parizul binaSi gadavida, sadac 13 wlis ganmavlobaSi
cxovrobda. msaxiobi aravisTan
urTierTobda, radgan surda,
Tayvanismcemlebis mexsierebaSi
dauviwyar, uberebel varskvlavad darCeniliyo. mTeli am
wlebis ganmavlobaSi misi oTaxis
kedelze idealuri mamakacis _
Jan gabenis portreti ekida.
moamzada
maka svimoniSvilma
34 premieri
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
amas winaT gavrcelda informacia,
rom romeliRac muslimanur qveyanaSi 21 wlis gogona qvebiT `Caqoles~,
imitom rom is `feisbukze~ Sevida.
saqarTveloSi Tina maxaraZe aseve
Caqoles (sabednierod, qvebiT jer
ara) mxolod imitom, rom seqsze sakuTari azri gamoTqva. ipoveT sxvaoba im da Cvens qveyanas
Soris. sadRac iq vbanaobT, im qveyanaSi, sadac adamianebs
qolaven.
mamuka Rlonti
saqarTvelo regionaluri habi
ise unda gaxdes, rom habitusi ar
dakargos...
levan kalandaZe
`rogorc iciT, batoni levani
muSaobs imisTvis, rom eris fizikuri
gadarCena aRar idges kiTxvis niSnis
qveS~, _ ase waradgina levan vasaZe,
demografiuli aRorZinebis fondis
warmomadgenelma, Tamar CiburdaniZem
Sexvedris dros.
gia jafariZe
ver moviTmine.
guSin raRac yviTel gazeTSi
gamoqveynebuli da Semdgom FB-ze
dadebuli masala momxvda TvalSi,
sadac ïîäëåíüêèé `simarTlis moyvaruli~ amtkicebs, rom
saqarTvelodan maRalCinosnebi 2008 wlis ruseTTan omis
dros ukanmouxedavad garbodnen.
minda vTqva, rom 09.08.08-Si naSuadRevs gauTavebeli mogzaurobis Semdeg (Cveni aeroporti ukve mwyobridan iyo gamoyvanili, qveynis sahaero sivrceSi ki asobiT `erTmorwmune~
TviTmfrinavi imyofeboda), nino kalandaZe, nika rurua da
giga bokeria TbilisSi Camovidnen. kalandaZe da bokeria
maSinve sagareoSi moqandnen. rurua, Tu mexsiereba ar mRalatobs, prezidentis sasaxleSi wavida. dima gvindaZes (nika naTbilaZis da kidev bevris) damsaxurebaa, rom finansuri sistema ar CamoiSala.
7 dRe nino, da sxvaTa Soris, eka zRulaZe, eka xerxeuliZe,
saministros yvela TanamSromelTan erTad saministrodan
ar gasulan.
da eseni sad iyvnen, axla perangs rom ixeven tanze? maSin,
rodesac departamentis direqtorebi TviTon beWdavdnen
dokumentebs da TvliT gvyavda xalxi? ratom arc erTi ar
movida sagareoSi da ar gvkiTxa: `iqneb rameTi dagexmaroTo?~
P.S. mewyina, rom es dRes postebze myofma xalxma ar Tqva.
geSiniaT?
grigol vaSaZe
dabejiTebiT gavimeoreb _ rusuli orientacia ar arsebobs! arsebobs qarTuli saxelmwifoebrivi
orientacia da arsebobs kolaboracionizmi, anu saxelmwifoebrivi
Ralati, rasac, nebiT Tu uneblieT,
sCadis qarTvelTa garkveuli nawili.
nukri qanTarias preskonferencia da
misi gaSuqeba magaria :)))) _ umniSvnelovanesi gavlena aqvs sazogadoebaze, mis
keTildReobaze da ekonomikur winsvlaze.
lika basilaia-SavguliZe
TofaZe qarTul ekonomikas
Tofs umiznebs.
nikoloz mWedliSvili
ori varskvlavi vinmes xsovnas
eZRvneboda Tu raimes aprotesteben?
iatakze sanTlebi ratom CamoulagebiaT?
bakur bakuraZe
Tu RmerTi gwamT saerTaSoriso
aRiarebebiTa da ucxoeli prezidentebis werilebiT nu keklucobT raaa...
saerTaSoriso warmatebebi ara, ixvis
tolma, qveyanas mixedeT, qveyanas...
Tavze ro gvengreva... ZaRli Sin ar
vargodao, Tqvenzea naTqvami.
giorgi fofxaZe
ra mikvirs, iciT? aseTi antiamerikanizmiT romaa gaJRenTili
mTeli rusuli media, ician ubralo amerikelebma? Tu ar ainteresebT? holivudiT Tu vimsjelebT,
amerikelisTvis amerikiT iwyeba da mTavrdeba samyaro:) da
amxela qveyana rom imuqreba da aTas paranoidul miTs
igonebs, es ician? aq xom marTla araa laparaki romelime
konkretuli xelisuflebisa da Tundac ideologiis siZulvilze. mTeli naciis siZulvilzea laparaki.
amerikaSi mcxovreblebs vekiTxebi me:)
gogi gvaxaria
gana ar SeuZlia `ocnebas~ gzebis
gakeTeba. ubralod, adgilobriv
arCevnebamde ar unda. ai, arCevnebis
mere naxavT, rogori tempebiT wava
aRmSenebloba... 100 axali sawarmo
avtobanebiT daukavSirdeba erTmaneTs, uprocento sesxebs pirdapir
`binaze~ miutanen amomrCevlebs,
xolo TiTo sofels 5 milionis nacvlad minimum 41 milioni ergeba. magram es yvelaferi iqneba adgilobrivi arCevnebis mere. manamde ki... nela iareT da `iamkebs~ erideT.
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aravin Tqvas, rom saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi samsaxurs eZeben da ver pouloben. dRes gasaubrebaze dabarebuli 23 adamianidan 8 movida droulad, 7ma daagviana, danarCens davukavSirdiT da gamogvicxades, rom
gadaifiqres, arada guSin dagvidastures daswreba.
maia wereTeli
daviT buxrikiZe
vidre saqarTveloSi klanur-nepotisturi azrovneba ar dasruldeba,
araferi eSveleba.
bela nozaZe
#10 (027)
ambebi
stalinis Zeglebisa da saerTod
ganaTlebis Temaze gamaxsenda. wina
dRes megobrebi kafeSi vijeqiT,
gverdiT magidaze ki qalbatoni
ramdenime axalgazrda gogos kastingis mosamzadebel gasaubrebas
utarebda. sakiTxi warmatebulTaTvis evropaSi SesaZlo gamgzavrebasa da sabuTebsac Seexo. erTma Tqva, Cipian aidis da biopasports ver aviRebo, meorem _
ki aviRebdi, magram jer Zvels gauvides vadao, danarCenebma,
ar gvifiqria amazeo. ver moviTmineT da mizezi vkiTxeT: eSmakisa da sami eqvsianis Temaao. amas ra mniSvneloba aqvs,
magram mainc _ lamazi, centralurubneli studentebi Candnen da evropul samodelo karieraze meocnebeni. ar vici,
skolam unda iTamaSos mTavari roli Tu ojaxma, sazogadoeba xom Zalian zogadi cnebaa...
mamuka kudava
ideologiuri desanti?!
ratom xdeba ruseTSi TavSefarebuli qarTvelebis masobrivi stumroba saqarTveloSi yirimis movlenebis paralelurad (cnobilebi,
ucnobebi, fulianebi, fulis Sovnis molodinSi myofni, ubralod,
yvela, visac sityva eTqmis)? eWvebi maqvs! es eWvi kidev ufro
gamiRrmavdeba, male Tika kandelaki da valeri xaburzania
rom vixilo sakuTari personiT.
roman gociriZe
am damRleli dRis bolos Tu kidev
rame gamakvirvebda... an kalTa gadamafareT, an damalevineT rame...
giorgi laferaSvili
quTaisis `torpedos~ rom xangrZlivi
diskvalifikacia miscen, saberZneTSi wava.
malxaz xarbedia
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kibos diagnostika
gamartivda qaRaldis
test-Cxirebamde
asaCusetsis teqnologiuri institutis
specialistebma SeimuSaves
onkologiuri daavadebebis diagnostikis swrafi, martivi da iafi testirebis meTodi. kibos diagnostika,
orsulobis testebis msgavsad, ganxorcieldeba
Sardis nimuSiT da qaRaldis test-Cxiris gamoyenebiT, xolo Sedegi mzadaa ramdenime wamSi.
m
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giganturi uZvelesi virusi `ferflidan aRsdga~
m
ecnierebi acxadeben, rom dabrunda uZvelesi virusi, romelic 30 000 welia
daviwyebulia. ityobineba unitworld.net.
frangi mecnierebis mtkicebiT, es virusi ar warmoadgens saSiSroebas adamianebisa da cxovelebisTvis, magram arsebobs sxva virusebis warmoqmnis riski,
radgan dedamiwa yinulisgan Tavisufldeba. kvlevebi gamoqveynebulia mecnierebaTa erovnuli akademiis SromebSi (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences).
Aix-Marseille-is (safrangeTi) universitetis samecniero kvlevebis erovnuli centris profesori Jan-miSel klaveri acxadebs: `es aris pirveli SemTxveva, rodesac aseTi xangrZlivi
mkvlevarebma Caatares mravali testi, romlebic avlens
sisxlZarRvebis janmrTelobis mniSvnelovan maCvenebels
k
vlevebis mimdinareobisas monawileebs miecaT rekomendacia, Tavi SeekavebinaT
mZime sakvebisgan, raTa wonis mateba aecilebinaT.
mecnierebma, aseve, Seafases tkbileulis miRebis motivaciaze flavonoliani
da Cveulebrivi Sokoladis gavlena.
`muqi Sokoladis efeqti dadebiTia Cveni organizmisTvis. axla Cven SegviZlia
SevqmnaT Terapia, romelic igives gaakeTebs, rasac muqi Sokoladi, magram ufro
zustad da efeqturad~, _ ganacxada medicinis mecnierebaTa doqtorma da `The FASEB
Journal~-is mTavarma redaqtorma jerald vaismanma, _ `sanam ar SemuSavebula `muqi Sokoladis~ moqmedebis preparati, unda davkmayofildeT imiT, rac bunebam mogvca~.
janmrTeli adamianis
sisxlSi `sikvdilis
biomarkeri~ aRmoaCines
e
stoneli da finlandieli
mecnierebis jgufma gamoavlina oTxi biomarkeri,
romelTa koncentraciis
done sisxlSi momdevno
xuTi wlis ganmavlobaSi
nebismieri daavadebisgan
gardacvalebis maRali
riskis myari indikatoria. farTo
klinikur praqtikaSi `sikvdilis biomarkeris~ meTodikis danergva SeZlebs risk-jgufSi Semavali adamianebs gamovlenas.
drois ganmavlobaSi gayinuli virusi SeiZleba gadamdebi aRmoCndes~.
uZvelesi virusi gayinuli miwis 30 metris siRrmeSi iyo damarxuli.
mas Pithovirus sibericum-s uwodeben da ganekuTvneba giganturi virusebis klass, romlebic
aTi wlis winaT aRmoaCines. es virusebi, sxva virusebisgan gansxvavebiT, imdenad didia, rom
maTi danaxva mikroskopis qveS SeiZleba. misi sigrZe 1.5 mikrometria da aris yvelaze didi,
rac ki odesme aRmouCeniaT. misi aqtivobis bolo dRe daaxloebiT 30 000 wlis winaT iyo,
magram laboratoriaSi is kvlav daubrunda sicocxles.
kvlevebma aCvena, rom is amarcxebs amebas, erTujredian organizms, magram aranairad ar
axdens gavlenas adamiansa da cxovelze.
mkvlevarebi varaudoben, rom ufro sasikvdilo paTogenebi SeiZleba cimbirSi dafiqsirdes. mecnierebis azriT, swored am regions emuqreba safrTxe. 1970 wlidan maradi gayinulobis sisqe mcirdeba. klimatis cvlilebis prognozi winaswarmetyvelebs mis Semdgom
Semcirebas.
profesori klaveri SiSobs, rom Rrma fenebis galRobam SeiZleba axali virusuli saSiSroeba gaaCinos.
misi TqmiT: `Tu Tqven daiwyebT samrewvelo samuSaoebs, burRvasa da wiaRiseulis mopovebas, es SeiZleba gaxdes seriozuli katastrofis mizezebi, roca ufro Rrma fenebi amova
zedapirze~.
`yvavilis virusis uZvelesi Stami, romelic 30 wlis winaT `ganadgurda~, SeiZleba jer
kidev saSiSi iyos~, _ dasZens profesori. Tu es yvelaferi marTalia da virusebs SeuZlia
saSineli siurprizebi mogvimzados, maSin dedamiwis zedapirze aRmoufxvreli yvavili _ es
mxolod dasawyisia.
hiperaqtivoba bavSvebSi orsulobis dros paracetamolis miRebas
daukavSires
o
rsulobis dros paracetamolis miReba zrdis bavSvebSi uyuradRebobisa da hiperaqtivobis sindromis risks, _ afrTxileben momaval mSoblebs farTomasStabiani kvlevis avtorebi. mecnierebi varaudoben, rom kvlevis Sedegebis Seswavla
daexmarebaT, axsnan bavSvebSi qceviTi problemebis SesamCnevi zrda.
avstralielma mecnierebma gamoarkvies,
vis emuqreba kanis kibo
a
vstralieli mecnierebis kvlevebi saSualebas iZleva, SeirCes mosaxleobis kategoria, romlebic maRali riskis qveS imyofebian iseTi daavadebis mxriv, rogoricaa kanis kibo.
aRmoCnda, rom yvelaze saxifaToa ara
mzis gamosxiveba, aramed mzis sxivebis ukufena. anu ubralod namzeuri da solariumSi siaruli akrZaluli ar aris, gansakuTrebiT Tu Tqven
borotad ar gamoiyenebT am proceduras. moagarakeebs aseve SeuZliaT, mSvidad iyvnen, radgan
isini uSualod miwaze muSaoben da aq sxivebis ukufena ar xdeba.
janmrTelobis mxriv gansakuTrebuli yuradRebis gamoCenas urCeven iseTi profesiis
adamianebs, rogoricaa: movaWreebi (mzis sxivi ukuifineba daxlidan, asfaltidan) mSeneblebi
da mxuravebi (saxifaTo faqtori _ xangrZlivi yofna gaxurebul saxuravze, mSenebare
kedelTan axlos), maSvelebi (samuSao wyalsatevTan axlos, xolo wyali sxivis kargi ukumfenia), mZRolebi (muSaoba manqanis fanjris miRma). es adamianebi damcavi saSualebebiTac ki
ver SeZleben Tavidan aicilon mzis Warbi gamosxivebis saSiSi zemoqmedeba.
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daberebas
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muqi Sokoladi sasargebloa gulisTvis
xali kvlevebis Tanaxmad, muqi Sokoladis moxmareba amcirebs sisxlZarRvTa kedlebze leikocitebis mikvras.
muqi Sokoladi organizms exmareba, aRadginos
arteriis moqniloba da Tavidan aicilos maT
kedlebze leikocitebis mikvra. amasTanave, mecnierebis azriT, flavonolebis gazrdili Semcveloba ar cvlis am efeqts. niderlandeli mkvlevari doqtor eseri aRniSnavs, rom mecnierebma warmoadgines sisxlZarRvebis janmrTelobaze Sokoladis zemoqmedebis sruli suraTi da aCvenes, rom flavonolebis Semcvelo-
T a
u Tqven giyvarT
tkbileuli, silamazis aranairi
procedura ar
mogitanT grZelvadian efeqts _
Tqven sxvebze
adre daberdebiT,
xolo gaaxalgazrdavebisTvis daxarjuli fuli
fuWi aRmoCndeba. aseTi
sensaciuri gancxadebiT
gamovida dermatologi patrisia farisi. misi sityvebiT, kavSiri Saqarsa da naadrev daberebas Soris ukavSirdeba process, romelsac
`glikacia~ ewodeba.
es qimiuri procesi xdeba maSin, roca sisxlSi
Saqris done Zalian maRalia. Saqris molekula sisxlSi cirkulirebs da ukavSirdeba sxva komponentebs nivTierebis Sesaqmnelad, romelic cnobilia, rogorc cilis Saqris kompleqsi an glikirebis saboloo produqti. praqtikulad, isini gvxvdeba adamianis organizmis
yvela organosa da sistemaSi _ TirkmlebSi, Tavis tvinsa da nervul qsovilebSi, kanSi. isini iwvevs anTebas, Semdeg qsovilis
dazianebas da naadrev daberebas.
kolageni da elastini, romelic exmareba kans, darCes mkvrivi, Zalian mgrZnobiarea aseTi molekulisadmi da advilad
irRveva misi zemoqmedebiT. Sedegad, kani xdeba modunebuli, arajansaRi da infeqciisgan daucveli.
Tu geCvenebaT, rom Zalian swrafad berdebiT, daemSvidobeT tkbileuls, _ girCevT patrisia farisi.
gamoigones eleqtronuli safenebi
a
vstralielma mecnierebma specialuri
eleqtronuli safenebi gamoigones,
romelic gamoadgebaT ara marto patarebs, aramed mozrdil adamianebsac,
vinc Sardis Seukaveblobas ganicdis.
inovaciuri pampersebi aRWurvilia
Sevsebis sensoriT. roca safenis gamocvlis dro dgeba, dedas esmis specialuri signali.
ufrosebisTvis gankuTvnili safeni damzadebulia
imave principiT, rogorc bavSvis safenebi sensoruli Sevsebis avziT.
mecnierebi miiCneven, rom es safenebi Zalian male
popularuli gaxdeba ara mxolod saavadmyofoebSi, aseve, skolamdeli aRzrdis dawesebulebebSi,
sabavSvo baRebsa da saxlis pirobebSi
rodis grZnobs adamiani Tavs bednierad?
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ornelis universitetis (aSS) mecnierebma socialur qselSi Caatares dRiurebisa da Canawerebis masStaburi
kvlevebi, romelic 84 qveynis xuTasi aTasze met adamians ekuTvnoda.
kvlevis mizani iyo, gaegoT, rodis grZnobs adamiani Tavs bednierad, drois romel monakveTSi.
Sedegad _ adamiani Tavs bednierad diliT grZnobs. kvleviTi proeqtis organizatorebis argumenti aris is,
rom sxeuli aRidgens Zalebs wina dRes dagrovili daZabulobisgan.
swored dilis saaTebSi, gamoRviZebisas SeigrZnobs adamiani Zaldautanebel bednierebas, `bavSvur silaRes~,
rac mogvianebiT icvleba axali daZabulobiT.
magram yvela adamiani rodi grZnobs dilaobiT Tavs bednierad. maT miekuTvneba `bu~, romelic fxizlobs RamiT, da
gamaRizianeblad Zilis moyvaruli adamiani. mecnierebi am tipis adamianebs urCeven, nel-nela mieCvion droul daZinebas.
rogorc mkvlevarebi miiCneven, reJimi aseve aucilebelia kargi ZilisTvis. isini gvirCeven, ar vecadoT, gavakeToT yvelaferi erTad da swrafad, aramed moviwyoT Sesvenebebi finjani yaviT an CaiT.
ba gavlenas ar axdens masze.
Tumca, flavonolebis gazrdili raodenoba gavlenas
axdens produqtis sagemovno Tvisebaze da, Sesabamisad, motivirebs mis mniSvnelovan moxmarebas.
eserma da misma kolegebma gaaanalizes Suaxnis asakis,
Warbwoniani 44 mamakacis mdgomareoba. kvlevebi or periodad daiyo, TiToeuli oTxi kviris ganmavlobaSi. am xnis
manZilze mamakacebi dReSi 70 gram Sokolads moixmardnen.
kvlevis monawileebi iRebdnen an specialurad damzadebul Sokolads flavonolis didi SemcvelobiT an Cveulebriv Sokolads. rogorc pirvel, aseve meore SemTxvevaSi
kakaos Semcveloba erTnairi iyo.
saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebis Secvla
problemebs iwvevs
b
avSvi, romelic xSirad gadadis erTi saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebidan sxvaSi, gacilebiT
advilad eqvemdebareba problemebis risks, rac
ukavSirdeba fsiqonevrologiuri xasiaTis simptomebs.
ramdenime martivi kvlevis Sedegad, mecnierebma SeZles, daedginaT, rom arasasiamovno simptomebis formirebis riskis xarisxi piks aRwevs im mozardebSi,
romlebmac mimdinare saswavlo procesSi skola minimum
samjer mainc Seicvales.
profesionali eqspert-fsiqologebis gancxadebiT, bavSvebi, romlebic xSirad icvlian skolis merxs, eqvemdebare-
bian Zlier stress imis gamo, rom saWiroa axali Tanatolebis gacnoba.
fsiqologiur sferoSi adre Catarebuli analogiuri
kvlevebiT, mecnierebma SeZles gaerkviaT Semdegi: pirveli
simptomebi Tavis tkivilebiT, uZilobiTa da Zlieri daRlilobiT warmoiqmneba saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebis xSiri
SecvliT da ara adamianis fsiqikaze sxva gverdiTi faqtorebis gavleniT.
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seqsualuri msaxiobebis ulamazo colebi
siyvaruli yvelaferze maRla dgas! sxvagvarad SeuZlebelia, aixsnas is, rom planetis yvelaze sasurveli mamakacebi arcTu ise lamaz qalebs irCeven. maT TavianT meore naxevrebSi izidavT Sinagani samyaro
da adamianuri Rirsebebi. usasrulod grZeli fexebi da savse mkerdi ki maTTvis mTavari sulac ar aris.
h
iu jekmani daqorwinebulia msaxiob debora-li
fernesze. wiTel xaliCaze sxva aseT koloritul
wyvils ver ipoviT: tanad da mamakacur hiu jekmans gverdiT udgas `nacrisferi Tagvi~. planetis
yvelaze sasurvel mamakacs nebismieri lamazi qalis gulis mogeba SeeZlo, magram ukve 15 welia,
misi guli erTaderTs ekuTvnis _ debora-li
ferness, romelic masze 13 wliT ufrosia. hiu jekmani colis
arnold Svarcenegeri prodiuser maria Sraiverzea
daqorwinebuli. kaliforniis yofili gubernatori colis
erTgulebas 25 welia inarCunebs. es kolorituli wyvili
holivudSi misabaZ magaliTad iqca, sadac qorwinebebi qaRaldis saxlebiviT ingreva.
meTiu foqsi. misi coli modeli margarita ronCia.
serial `dakargulebSi~ eqim jek Separdis rolis Semsrulebeli Tavisi qorwinebiT ukve 20 welia bednieria. margaritas
samodelo karieraSi Zalian daexmara egzotikuri garegno-
Sesaxeb yovelTvis didi siyvaruliT saubrobs. maT erTmaneTi 1995 wels gadasaReb moedanze gaicnes da erTi wlis Semdeg daqorwindnen. 42 wlis msaxiobis TqmiT, is qalSi
yovelTvis siTbos eZebda. `me Semiyvarda ara misi saxe an
sxeuli, aramed misi xasiaTi, Tumca debi yovelTvis momxibvlel qalad mimaCnda~, _ ambobs hiu jekmani. wyvils ori
ayvanili Svili hyavs.
hiu lori. is daqorwinebulia Teatris administrator
jo grinze. eqimi hausis rolis Semsrulebelze msoflios
qalebi Wkuas kargaven. 2008 wels msaxiobi yvelaze seqsualur mamakacad aRiares. jo grini, romelic sulac ar hgavs
eqim hausis ekranul Seyvarebuls liza kadis, msaxiobma 80iani wlebis bolos gaicno. `me momwons qalebi, romlebic
logikurad azrovneben~, _ ambobs hiu lori. 1989 wlis ivnisSi wyvili daqorwinda. maT sami Svili hyavT.
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saukeTeso msaxiobi qalebi `oskaris~ mTeli
istoriis manZilze
A
cademy Awards-is pirveli ceremonia los-anjelesSi 1929 wlis maisSi gaimarTa. aq warmodgenili
iyo filmebi, romelic 1927-1929 wlebSi gadaiRes.
Jurnal `pozitaimis~ redaqcia Tavis mkiTxvels warsuli axsenebs da warmoudgens gamarjvebul qalebs, romelTac `oskari~ ergoT.
janet geinorsmi _ msaxiobi qali, romelsac 1929 wels
duglas fernbeqs-ufrosma gadasca `oskari~ qalis rolis
saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis filmSi `mzis amosvla~. janeti
gaxda pirveli msaxiobi, romelmac es prestiJuli jildo
miiRo.
1930 wels Catarda dajildoebis ori ceremonia. msaxiobi
meri pikfordi 1930 wlis
aprilSi dajildovda oqros
statuetiT qalis saukeTeso
rolis SesrulebisTvis filmSi `koketi~.
1940 wels vivien lis gadaeca `oskari~ film `qarwaRebulnSi~ qalis rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis. es kinofilmi gaxda msaxiobis kinotriumfi, misi wyalobiT vivienis Sesaxeb mTelma msofliom
Seityo.
1944 wels jenifer jonsma
miiRo `oskari~ qalis rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis
filmSi `bernadetis simRera~. swored kinoakademiis aRiarebis Sedegad jenifer
jonsi Zalian didi xnis
ganmavlobaSi TamaSobda
yvelaze saintereso da
saukeTeso filmebSi.
ingrid bergmani iyo
erT-erTi im msaxiobTagani, romelsac didi
xnis ganmavlobaSi mouwia lodini Tavisi `oskaris~ misaRebad. es
prestiJuli jildo mas
1945 wels gadaeca filmisTvis `airis naTeba~.
joan kroufords amerikuli kinoakademiis jildo 1945
wels ergo. is saukeTeso msaxiobad aRiares filmSi `mildred
pirsi~.
`oskarosani~ mamakacebi
ba. wyvilma erTmaneTi niu-iorkSi, kafeSi gaicno. maSin meTiu
picis damtareblad muSaobda da verc ki iocnebebda, rom
wiTel xaliCaze fotografebis kamerebis win ipoziorebda
da Tayvanismcemlebis uzarmazari armiis mogeriebas Seecdeboda. margarita 19 wlis iyo da modelad muSaobda. `me maSin
aravin viyavi, RamiT picas varigebdi. male Cven Sexvedrebi
daviwyeT da vocnebobdi, rom margos CemTan erTad Cveni
Svilebi gaezarda~, _ ambobs msaxiobi. wyvili 1991 wels daqorwinda da ori Svili hyavs.
pirs brosnani. misi meore naxevaria telewamyvani kili
Sei smiti. es seqsualuri irlandieli 57 wlis asakSic axerxebs seqssimbolos titulis SenarCunebas. 1995 wels pirs brosnani ekranebze jeims
bondis roliT gamoCnda.
agent-007-s yovelTvis
axldnen lamazmanebi
(maT Soris holi beri da
denis riCardsi), magram
pirsis cxovrebaSi mTavari adgili ukve 17 welia telewamyvan kili
Sei smits ukavia. momavali coli pirs brosnanma 1994 wels meqsikaSi gaicno. kili Sei smiti misgan intervius iRebda.
dRes col-qmars ori
vaJi hyavs _ denieli da
luki. `Zalian gamimarTla, rom kilis Sevxvdi,
ukve aRar mjeroda, rom
odesme Cems meore naxevars vipovidi~, _ acxadebs msaxiobi.
pirsma pirveli coli tragikuli SemTxvevis Sedegad dakarga. tabloidebis mware enis miuxedavad, romlebic mianiSneben, rom agent 007-is cols gaxdoma ar awyenda, pirss is
uyvars iseTi, rogoric aris da masTan erTad wiTel xaliCaze gamoCenis sulac ar rcxvenia.
p
irveli msaxiobi, dajildoebuli `oskariT~ mamakacis rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis, emil ianingsi gaxda, romelmac Tavisi jildo 1929 wels
miiRo. emil ianingsi ori `oskaris~ mflobelia.
pirveli _ 1927 wels gadaRebuli filmisTvis `yvela xorcielis gza~, xolo meore _ kinofilmisTvis `bolo brZaneba~.
klark geibli _ msaxiobi,
romelmac mamakacis rolis
saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis
filmSi `es moxda erTxel
RamiT~ 1934 wels `oskari~
miiRo. am filmma aseve dajildovda saukeTeso reJisuris, saukeTeso adaptirebuli scenarisa da qalis
rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis
(klodet
kolberti).
1941 wels `oskaris~
mflobeli gaxda msaxiobi
jeims stiuarti, reportioris rolis SesrulebisTvis filmSi `filadelfiuri istoria~. aRsaniSnavia,
rom jeims stiuartma wina
`oskari~ dakarga, romelic gadaeca mamakacis rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis filmSi `mister smiti midis vaSingtonSi~.
dabolos, reia milandi
_ msaxiobi, romelmac uamrav filmSi iTamaSa, magram
`oskari~ mxolod erTxel
daimsaxura, mamakacis rolis saukeTeso SesrulebisTvis filmSi `bolo dasvenebis
dRe~.
moamzada maka svimoniSvilma
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moragbeTa nakrebma espaneTi 24:17 daamarcxa
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aqarTvelos moragbeTa nakrebma madridSi espaneTis nakrebi mZime brZolaSi 24:17
daamarcxa da erTa Tasis gaTamaSebaSi meore adgilzea rumineTis Semdeg. „muxis
foTlebma” belgia premialuri quliT daamarcxes da saturniro cxrils TavSi
moeqcnen, radgan milton heigis gundma espaneTTan 4 lelos dadeba da premialuri qulis aReba ver moaxerxa.
„borjRalosnebma” gadaxalisebuli SemadgenlobiT iTamaSes da metoqis gatexva meore naxevarSi moaxerxes. axal zelandielma specialistma rumineTTan gadamwyveti matCis win ramdenime wamyvani moragbe daasvena, ramac espaneTTan matCis xarisxze
gavlena iqonia - „borjRalosnebma” rTuli TamaSi moiges da axla 15 marts rumineTTan
matCisTvis emzadebian.
rumineTTan dapirispirebas saqarTvelos nakrebisTvis udidesi mniSvneloba aqvs - gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi qarTveli moragbeebi erTa Tass da saqarTvelosa da rumineTs Soris
hqonda, Tumca, qarTvel mebrZolTan mainc verafers gaxda. daviT qirias aqtivSi 22 mogeba
(8 nokautiT) da 8 marcxia. amJamad, qarTvel sportsmens klasifikaciaSi me-3 pozicia ukavia.
igor kokoSkovi saqarTvelos
erovnul nakrebs kidev 2 wliT
uxelmZRvanelebs
gor kokoSkovi saqarTvelos
erovnul nakrebSi kidev 2 weli imuSavebs. saqarTvelos kalaTburTis erovnuli federaciis xelmZRvaneloba `klivlend kavalersis” mwvrTnels TanamSromlobis gagrZelebaze SeuTanxmda. axali xelSekrulebis Tanaxmad, kokoSkovi saqarTvelos erovnul
nakrebs 2014 da 2015 wlebis matCebSi uxelmZRvanelebs.
Cvens erovnul gunds mimdinare wlis agvistoSi evropis Cempionatis SearCev turnirSi
mouwevs asparezoba CexeTis, ungreTisa da portugaliis nakrebebTan. warmatebis SemTxvevaSi
saqarTvelo zedized mesamed gava evropis Cempionatis finalur etapze, romelsac 2015
wels ukraina umaspinZlebs
kokoSkovma saqarTvelos nakrebi 2008 wels Caibara, roca is evropis B divizionSi asparezobda. serbi specialistis xelmZRvanelobiT Cveni nakrebi pirvelive ciklSi A divizionSi
gadavida, saidanac pirvelive cdaze evropis Cempionatis finalur etapze gavida.
2011wels, litvaSi gamarTul evrobasketze, saqarTveos nakrebi kontinentis saukeTeso 11
gundSi moxvda. gasul, 2013 wels qarTvelebi Rirseulad gamovidnen sloveniaSi gamarTul
evropis Cempionatze, ris Semdegc igor kokoSkovs saqarTvelos kalaTburTis federaciasTan xelSekruleba amoewura.
kokoSkovis garda saqarTvelos kalaTburTis federacias erovnuli gundis mwvrTnelobis kidev erTi serbi kandidati hyavda, Tumca safuZvliani analizisa da molaparakebebis
Semdeg arCevani Cveni nakrebisTvis kargad nacnob kokoSkovze SeCerda. molaparakebebi 10
marts dasrulda da urTirTSeTanxmebis safuZvelze igor kokoSkovma kidev 2 wliT Caibara
saqarTvelos erovnuli nakrebi.
i
avTo ebraliZe `Jil
visentes~ gamarjvebaSi
goliT daexmara
s
aqarTvelos safexburTo nakrebis
wevris goli portugaliis CempionatSi - 22-e turSi
avTo ebraliZem
`Jil visentes” SemadgenlobaSi Sedegini dartyma 71-e wuTze ganaxorciela
da saboloo angariSi 2:0
daafiqsira.
`Jil visentem” stumrad `pakoS fereiras” damarcxebiT, saturniro cxrilSi meTerTmete adgilze gadainacvla.
qarTvelma fexburTelma matCi Seucvlelad Caatara da portugaliis CempionatSi sadebiuto golis avtori gaxda.
sacilo anTimoz iverielis Tass moigeben, msoflios Tasis 2015 wlis gaTamaSebaSi ki maTTvis
sasurvel jgufSi Cajdebian (axali zelandia, argentina, tonga da savaraudod namibia) da
noembris testebze irlandiis nakrebTan matCis saSualeba miecemaT.
irlandiis donis nakrebTan testmatCis gamarTva „borjRalosnebisTvis” ramdenad mniSvnelovania amaze laparakic ar Rirs. ase rom, 15 marts „mixeil mesxze” milton heigis
gundi uprincipules matCs marTavs da gulSematkivris mxardaWeras elis.
qarTveli
wyalburTelebi
italias,
montenegros,
saberZneTs,
rumineTsa da
ruseTs
daupirispirdebian
e
vropis Cempionatze saqarTvelos wyalburTelTa nakrebi A
jgufSi
iTamaSebs. qarTveli wylaburTelebi kontinentis pirvelobaze italiis, montenegros, saberZneTis, rumineTisa da ruseTis nakrebebs daupirispirdebian. momdevno
etapze TamaSis SesaZlebloba ki jgufis saukeTeso sameuls eZleva.
wyalburTelTa 12 evropul nakrebs ungreTis dedaqalaqi 14-27 ivliss umaspinZlebs.
saqarTvelos nakrebma finaluri etapis sagzuri pleiofSi TurqeTis damarcxebiT moipova.
sportis sasaxle ZiudoSi
Tbilisis gran pris
umaspinZlebs
2
1-22 marts Tbilisis sportis
sasaxle ZiudoSi Tbilisis
gran pris umaspinZlebs.
prestiJuli saerTaSoriso
turniris saprizo fondi
100 aTas amerikul dolars
Seadgens.jerjerobiT SejibrSi monawile gundebis raodenoba 30 qveyanas
Seadgens. saukeTeso Ziudoistebi, mamakacebsa da qalebs Soris, 7 woniT
kategoriaSi gamovlindebian.
turniris organizatorebi sportisa da axalgazrdobis saqmeTa saministro da saqarTvelos Ziudos federacia arian.
Tbilisis gran prize daswreba gulSematkivars ufasod SeeZleba. turniris piradpir
translacias, 21-dan 22 martis CaTvliT, sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis pirveli arxi SemogTavazebT.
gverdi moamzada giorgi navrozaSvilma
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xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti, 2014
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti
verZi 21.03-21.04
albaToba fulis miRebisa maRalia ara
erTi aramed ramodenime saqmidan. gamoiCineT sidinje. nu midixarT jiqurad da Tqven SeZlebT miznis miRwevas. cvlilebebia mosalodneli, frTxilad airCieT partniori- savaraudod masTan
urTierToba xangrZlivaT mogiwevT. SesaZlebelia vali dagibrunon an fasiani
saCuqari miiRoT.
kirCxibi 22.06-22.07
mZime, damRleli saqmianobis Semdeg, SegiZliaT Tavs dasvenebis ufleba misceT. materialuri mdgomareoba
stabiluria. ar aris sasurveli xelSekrulebebis da garigebebis dadeba, radgan SesaZloa yvelaferi Tqvens
sawinaaRmdegod semobrundes. mosalodnelia samuSaos Secvla, materialuri mdgomareobis gaumjobeseba.
saswori 23.09-22.10
saukeTeso droa uZravi kapitalis
SesaZenad, axali garigebis dasadebad.
es kvira sakmaod warmatebuli da kidev
ufro bednierebis momtania. yvela
saqme, aseve xelSekrulebebi da kontraqtebi sasurvelia gavaanalizoT da
partniorebTan ganvixiloT. es kvira
mogebas gpirdebaT. ecadeT daxmarebis xeli gauwodeT axlobel adamianebs.
Txis rqa 22.12-19.01
es kvira sakuTari saqcieli gaanalizebas dauTmeT. nu gamoavlenT agresias. grZelvadian proeqtebs am nu
wamoiwyebT. adamianebTan urTierTobis
survili gamogexatebaT. axali ideebi
momavalSi moulodnel mogebas gpirdebaT. Tamamad SegiZliaT Tqveni azrebi garSemomyofT gauziaroT.
kuro 22.04-21.05
kargi droa sarfiani garigebebis,
sabanko operaciebis Sesasruleblad.
yvela saqme am dRes dawyebuli mogebas mogitanT. yvela xelSekrulebasa
da garigebas sifrTxiliT miudeqiT,
nu miiRebT swraf da naCqarev gadawyvetilebas. ar aris sasurveli valis
aReba. yvela wamowyeba warmatebuli
iqneba.
lomi 23.07-22.08
Secdomebis daSvebis albaToba maRalia, gamoiCineT maqsimaluri yuradReba. Aar aris sasurveli xelSelrulebebis gaformeba.saqmian partniorebTan urTierTobisas maqsimaluri yuradReba gamoiCineT,radgan
maTTan urTierToba Tqvens biznes
keTildReobas pirdeba. gariskeT da
mogeba gagiormagdebaT.
Rriankali 23.10-21.11
es kvira sakmarisad kargia mogzaurobis, mivlinebebis, gadadgilebisTvis.
mTlianobaSi xelsayrelia. SesaZlebelia Zveli gadasaxadebis gadaxda
mogTxovon. kargi da warmatebulia
nebismieri mniSvnelovani da umniSvnelo saqmis dasawyebad. naRveli da mwuxareba droebiTi aRmoCndeba. sasargebloa finansuri garigebisTvis.
merwyuli 20.01-18.02
codnis miRebis droa, rac momavalSi
gamogadgebaT. saukeTeso droa saqmiani
garigebebis da axali proeqtebis dasawyebad. axali biznes partnioris gamoCena
did warmatebas gimzadebT.. nu miscemT
saSualebas emociebs gadaefaros Tqvens
gonebas da saR azrs mogwyvitoT. arasasurveli droa xeli moaweroT garigebas
da yovelgvar finansur SeTanxmebas.
xuTSabaTi, 13-19 marti
tyupebi 22.05-21.06
srul warmatebas miaRwevT biznesSi.
Tqven swor finansur politikas awarmoebT,
magram yovelTvis dgebiT
cdunebis winaSe. amitom ecadeT
gonivrulad gankargoT finansebi. didi
warmatebebis miRwevis albaToba izrdeba. axali SemoTavazebebi da winadadebebi sasiamovno moulodneloba iqneba.
mosalodnelia warmateba karieraSi.
qalwuli 23.08-22.09
nebisyofas gamoiCenT, rac xels Seuwyobs bevri problemis mogvarebas. Tavs
iCens mravali gadaudebeli saqme-nakleb savaraudoa, rom maTi ganxorcieleba TqvenTvis sasikeTo iqnes. SesaZlebelia vali dagibrunon an fasiani saCuqari miiRoT. advili SesaZlebelia samsaxurSi samarTleblivi da iuridiuli
sakiTxebis gadawyvetam mogiwioT.
mSvildosani
22.11-21.12
Tqveni azrebi savsea gambedaobiT
da gadawyvetilebis misaRebad. Tu
rames CaifiqrebT saqmes ar gadadebT.
magram, frTxilad mTvaris aseTi mdebareobisas, TviTSemoqmedeba, mcdeloba yvelaferi swrafad da dauyovnebliv gaakeToT konfliqtamde
migiyvanT, rac Tqvens materialur
mdgomareobaze cudad aisaxeba.
Tevzebi 19.02-20.03
rac ufro bunebrivi iqnebiT garSemomyofni miT metad dagafaseben. kargi
periodia axali ideebis gansaxorcieleblad. ecadeT marto gaumklavdeT
problemebs,samsaxurSic dauxmareblad
moagvareT dagrovili saqmeebi. saqmiani
Sexvedrebi, molaparakebebi da xelSekrulebis gaformeba uamrav dros da energias wagarTmevT.
45 wlis kaili minougi kvlav Tavis ocnebis mamakacs elodeba
k
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aili minougi imeds ar kargavs, rom Tavis siyvaruls aucileblad Sexvdeba. momxibvlelma avstralielma momReralma 45 wels ise miaRwia, rom sanukvari Zlieri grZnoba ar swvevia.
amis miuxedavad, varskvlavs mainc sjera siyvarulis da JurnalistebTan im sasurveli mamakacis Sesaxebac
isaubra, romelic mas bednier qalad aqcevs. aRmoCnda, rom miniaturuli momReralis daTanxmeba, arc Tu ise
Znelia, rogorc es erTi Sexedvisas Cans.
ocnebis mamakacis mTavar Tvisebad minougma qarizma da iumori daasaxela. misive TqmiT, is eZebs iseT mamakacs,
romelic misi cxovrebis giJur wess Seegueba.
varskvlavis moTxovnebis simartivis miuxedavad, misi dakmayofileba jerjerobiT veravin SeZlo. ufro metic, momRerals Svilic ar hyavs, amitom is seriozulad fiqrobs bavSvis ayvanas.
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giorgi (giguSa)
nikolozis Ze erisTavi
aRaTi elizbaris asuli
dadiani-SarvaSiZisa
marcxnidan: giorgi mixeilis Ze SarvaSiZe, konstantine aleqsandres Ze erisTavi
(qsnis), konstantine daviTis Ze wereTeli, biZina ColoyaSvili
generali otia elizbaris Ze dadiani
`
saqarTvelos umTavresi mimzidveli Zala aris qarTvelebis Rirseba! qarTveli marto saxiT
ki ar aris sasiamovno sanaxavi, es xalxi marTla sayvareli ram xalxia... visac unda gulidan
gadaiyaros javri, daRvremileba, melanqolia da mizanTropia, imaze ukeTes wamals ver iSovnis,
rom wavides da icxovros am mxiarul, gulgaxsnil, xel-gaSlil, patiosan da gulubryvilo
xalxs Soris!
oliver uordropi `saqarTvelos samefo~
`
konstantine dadeSqeliani da petre anCabaZe (SuaSi
) afxaz megobrebTan
`
miuxedavad imisa, rom yoveli qarTveli,
rac unda Raribi iyos, uRvinod purs ar gatexs, me maT Soris iSviaTad Sevxvedrivar
loTebs. qarTveli xalxi keTilia, gulaxdili,
gambedavi, udardeli, ar aris karCaketili,
uyvarT qeifi da meomroba. mrewveloba da
vaWroba qarTvelebis saqme ar aris .
baron tornau
`
Tavadi dimitri WavWavaZe
marcxnidan: meri prokofis asuli SarvaSiZe, varlam
kiriles Ze dadiani da meri svimonis asuli
wereTeli-dadianisa.
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