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9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR)
9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
Onstein - NED
vs
Angelini - ITA
Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA Angelini - ITA Onstein - NED
N Drijver E Nunes N Helness E Muller
S Brink W Fantoni S Helgemo W De Wijs
Contract By M D N-S E-W Contract By M D N-S E-W
4♥x E
3 500
4♥x E
2 300
4♠ E 4
420 4♠ E 4
420
3N E
2 200
2♥ E 2
110
5♥ W
2 200
4♥ W 4
620
6♦ E 6
920 3N W 6
490
4♠ N
1
50 4♠ N
1
50
4♠ S 4
620
IMPs
5 7 13 - 10
25 10
IMPs
Onstein - NED Angelini - ITA
This segment
25
10
Penalty
0
0
Carryover
59
60
total
84
70
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References: BridgeBase online. Edited by M.Sugino
9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR)
Board 1
this/total IMPs
NS:
Onstein - NED
5
64
EW:
Angelini - ITA
60
o 4 x E
-3 500
c 4 x E
-2 300
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1
7-4
♠7
6
Q65
6-4
9
K9632
8
♣ A Q10 8
♠J8432
N ♠ Q6
7
AK J 9 8 4 3
W E
QJ4
A5
S
♣9 7 6 3
♣ 54
♠ A K10 9 5
6
5
10 2
7
10 8 7
4
♣K J 2
5
110
W: Fantoni
W
p
ª
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
1
4
p
p
¨
©
E: Nunes
©
©
1
7-4
♠7
6
Q65
6-4
9
K9632
8
♣ A Q10 8
♠J8432
N ♠ Q6
7
AK J 9 8 4 3
W E
QJ4
A5
S
♣9 7 6 3
♣ 54
♠ A K10 9 5
6
5
10 2
7
10 8 7
4
♣K J 2
5
110
W: De Wijs
S
X
W
p
#1 S:: A,,,
hedyg: ok lets try again !..1
hedyg: hello to Erdinˆ§ :)
hedyg: and welcome to Niek :)
hedyg : NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/
documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostendeuropean/OpenTeams/netherlands/brink-drijver.pdf
niekbrink: Hi all
hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/
documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil
/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf..4
niekbrink: Welcome to this very close final so
far.. ..p..p..p..♠A
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Board 1
this/total IMPs
NS:
Angelini - ITA
60
EW:
Onstein - NED
5
64
o 4 x E
-3 500
c 4 x E
-2 300
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N: Helness
Closed
S: Helgemo
N
E
1
4
p
p
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E: Muller
S
X
ª
#1 S:: A,,,
vugraphzus: hi all
vugraphzus: hello everyone
hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the
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final of the 9th European Champions Cup..1 ..4
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vugraphzus: hello everyone..p
Gerben42: good morning! EW play relay precision..p
vugraphzus: Good morning
Gerben42: so 3 shows a positive with 2254
h bertens: good afternoon all..p
jbgood: hi Huub and all..♠A
hedyg: this is segment 3/4, 12 bds /segment
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9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
2
2
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
64
Angelini - ITA
60
E 4
420
E 4
420
3
♠ K10 9
3
8
4
3
J93
6
♣ J96542
♠Q J 3 2
N ♠A 8 6 5
KQ6
A72
W E
K10 7 4
Q65
S
♣K 3
♣ A10 7
♠74
10-9
10
J10 9 5 4 3
9
A82
10
♣Q8
7
430
W: Fantoni
W
2♣
4♠
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
1N
p
2♠
p
p
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ª
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E: Nunes
S
p
p
p
ª
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#1 S:: J,K,8,2
#2 W:: 2,9,A,4
#3 E:: 5,7,Q,K
#4 N:: 3,5,A,4
#5 S:: 3,6, T,
niekbrink: as there was some trouble witht eh
connection we speed through the first boards..1N..p..2
♣..p..2♠..p..4♠..p..p..p.. J.. K
hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBOTV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time,
even while playing or in the lobby. No download
needed. Some need Flash Player , some don’t. .....
8.. 2..♠2..♠9..♠A..♠4..♠5..♠7..♠Q..♠K..
3.. 5.. A.. 4.. 3.. 6..♠T
hedyg: Open one browser window per table
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
2
2
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
60
Onstein - NED
64
E 4
420
E 4
420
3
♠ K10 9
3
8
4
3
J93
6
♣ J96542
♠Q J 3 2
N ♠A 8 6 5
KQ6
A72
W E
K10 7 4
Q65
S
♣K 3
♣ A10 7
♠74
10-9
10
J10 9 5 4 3
9
A82
10
♣Q8
7
430
W: De Wijs
W
2♣
4♠
N: Helness
Closed
S: Helgemo
N
E
1N
p
2♠
p
p
©
ª
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E: Muller
S
p
p
p
ª
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#1 S:: J,K,8,2
#2 W:: 2,9,A,4
#3 E:: 6,7,Q,K
#4 N:: 9,5,A,4
#5 S:: 3,6, T, 7
vugraphzus: bu boardla ilgili
hobakan: yani biz oldu tamam diyelim.. olursa
olur olmazsa yenisine bakarˆ‰z:)
atalok: rakibin biri el aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r son 2 elde
atalok: digeride ˆ§akmˆ‰ˆ tˆ‰r
atalok: son 3 veya
murat: italyanlar ˆ u an biraz masayˆ‰ gekiyor
murat: geriyor
murat : bizimkilerin konvansiyon kartˆ‰nda
yeterli aˆ§ˆ‰klama yok
hobakan : eˆ er battˆ‰ yazˆ‰ldˆ‰ysa neyin
gerginliˆ i anlayamadˆ‰m
murat: ataˆ ˆ‰ deˆ iˆ tirmek istiyorlar
atalok: fantoni ben karo ˆ§ˆ‰kmazdˆ‰m der
hemen
hobakan: demek kaˆ ˆ‰t tam olsa iyicene cˆ‰
ngar ˆ§ˆ‰kacakmˆ‰ˆ :)
vahaboglu: hakem avantaja bˆ‰rakmadˆ‰ mˆ
‰
murat: ˆ imdi 4piki yapmˆ‰ˆ lardˆ‰ diye garip
bir ˆ ikayette bulunuyorlar
9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR)
murat: masaya Rahmi geldi :)
hobakan: hakkaten garip
murat: Salvo’nun 3♣’si kˆ¶rler demekmiˆ
yakop: zaten atak deˆ iˆ se de batmaz kart ne cˆ‰
karsa cˆ‰ksˆ‰n
hobakan: aaaa ˆ¶le mi ismail? hiˆ§ bakmadˆ‰k
biz ona
hobakan: yani ben ..:)
tez: selamlar
tez: iyi akˆ amlar
imp_jan: bound to be ultra slow session
Gerben42: maybe it will be easy hands
imp_jan: anyhow
murat: ˆ zmir’den herkese gˆ…naydˆ‰n..1N!
timve: toch lijkt he 7 impen voor Angelini eerste
spel
2celik1: potansiyel 2 imp gelebilir Izmir Buyuksehir
Takimina..p
yusufb: selam tezcan hoˆ geldin
hobakan: gˆ…naydˆ‰nnnn efem:):):)..2♣
arigun: herkese gunaydin
champ i: yeni kadro deˆ iˆ kliˆ i var takˆ‰mda
jbgood: strong club
vugraphzus: hello everyone
champ i: slm tez hoˆ geldin..p
atalok: gnydˆ‰nn..2♠
imp_jan: check for great stories, bulletins, hands,
pics
fabsayc: welcome to the last segment of this very
close match
hobakan: sˆ…leyman abi de gelmiˆ valla saˆ
olsun:):)..p
murat: Salvo’nun 20, Fantoni’nin 10cm uzaˆ ˆ‰
ndayˆ‰m :)
yusufb: gˆ…naydˆ‰nn herkese
vugraphzus: Gˆ…naydˆ‰n herkese
hobakan: sabahˆ‰n bu saaatinde:)
hedyg: 1 = 11-15 unbalanced
jbgood: 2♣ showing
and a pos hand..4♠
arigun: tarafmiyiz murat :)..p
yusufb: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za baˆ arˆ‰lar
murat: asla :)
phantoma: anlasamadilar galiba
murat: 1♣’i kuvvetli oynuyorlar
tez: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla ˆ lem gˆ¶rmeyen ellerle 4
majˆ¶rˆ… gˆ¶nderiyorlar umut varsa
atalok: 5 imp geldi sonra gerisini bekliyozz
atalok: elden alˆ‰p karo oynuyacak
Gerben42: at least short bidding again
hobakan: hg ˆ ampi:)
hobakan: takˆ‰mˆ‰mˆ‰za bol ˆ ans... sekans
atladˆ‰k sanˆ‰rˆ‰m..p
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murat: mixed raise sandˆ‰m dedi Kubaˆ§
hobakan: ama kaˆ ˆ‰tlar olsun diye gelmiˆ
arigun:
atagindan sonra cok love kurtarir
h bertens: looks like 4ha down 1
2celik1: selam Tezcan hosgeldin..p
imp_jan: http://www.eurobridge.org/index2.html
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and www.bridgetopics.com
Gerben42: can discard 2♠ on ♣ even on a
lead so this shouldnt be TOO long
tez: batˆ‰yor bakalˆ‰m nolacak.. J
mcphee: hi
hedyg: hi Bob :)
fabsayc : Helgemo-Helness are now in the
angelini sponsered team
fabsayc : playing full time in tournaments in
various countries including Italian events
jbgood: a kib points out that if N had bid 4
directly on the previous one, W might have bid
4NT and EW bid the minor suit game.. K.. 8
tez: izmirdeyim.kulupte bugun seminer vardˆ‰
..seminer yerine vugraf seyrediyorlarmˆ‰ˆ
..onlara el sallˆ‰yorum:).. 2..♠2
atalok: cl ruayˆ‰ at nezihh
mcphee: so it seems 10 tricks are there
murat: Fantoni bayaˆ ˆ‰ bi gerildi..♠9
tez:
asˆ‰ alˆ‰p almamasˆ‰ farketmiyor
jbgood: it is winnable now - but not in practice I
think..♠A..♠4
h bertens: even if he has the handrecords it will
take him some time
fabsayc: i think best line here win in dummy
spade ace spade
yusufb: C A cizebilir salvo..♠6
yusufb: egrisi dogrusuna geldi:)..♠7
jbgood: take in dummy, club, take the heart lead
with ace, unblock spades, ruff a club, throw
diamonds on spade !9
atalok: 3 cl neymiˆ ?..♠Q
arigun: 10 love olacak galiba..♠K.. 9
funtay: slm Tez
tez:
ˆ§aktˆ‰rmasˆ‰ iyi deˆ ildi
tez: bu en iyi defans
atalok: muhtemel battˆ‰
tez: havaya ˆ§akmak zorunda kalacaktˆ‰ alˆ‰cˆ
‰ kozla
murat: kˆ¶rˆ… ˆ§aktˆ‰rmaya giderken batacak
sanki ˆ imdi
atalok: ˆ efim yaparsa 12 alˆ‰rˆ‰z
jbgood: Q9
tez: ˆ efim yapamaz yaptˆ‰rˆ‰rlarsa ancak:)..
5
atalok: belki sp ruya gider d.. A
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funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/champions-
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cup-2010 canli izlemek iˆ§in.. 4
Gerben42: claim time
sarkar_suk: yes
hedyg: H&H still sitting out..
champ i: ˆ§izdi asˆ‰.. 3.. 6..♠T
marlowepi: there ws a double dummy line here
that makes, but no reason for Boye to find it
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 2
3
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this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
7
71
Angelini - ITA
60
E
-2 200
E 2
110
3
4
♠K 8 7
4-5
A543
4
3
43
7
♣Q 9 7 6
♠ A Q10 4
N ♠62
K
10 9 8 7 6 2
W E
K Q10 9 8 7
AJ
S
♣83
♣K J 5
♠J953
8
8
QJ
8
652
9
♣ A10 4 2
5
120
W: Fantoni
W
¨
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1
1♠
2
p
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
p
p
p
p
§
E: Nunes
S
p
p
p
p
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2♣
3N
#1 S:: 2,,,
hedyg: the webcam is off.. 7..p..1 ..p
vugraphzur : hi all .. we lived a connection
problem but now everything seems ok..1 ..p..1♠
..p..2♣..p..2 ..p..3N..p..p..p..♣2
hedyg: welcome back Dan :)
djneill: hi all
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9th European Champs Cup(Final 4_4 Izmir TUR)
Board
NS:
EW:
o 3N
c 2
3
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this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
60
Onstein - NED
7
71
E
-2 200
E 2
110
3
4
♠K 8 7
4-5
A543
4
3
43
7
♣Q 9 7 6
♠ A Q10 4
N ♠62
K
10 9 8 7 6 2
W E
K Q10 9 8 7
AJ
S
♣83
♣K J 5
♠J953
8
8
QJ
8
652
9
♣ A10 4 2
5
120
W: De Wijs
W
¨
1
1♠
p
N: Helness
Closed
S: Helgemo
N
E
p
p
p
ª5,Q,K,6
ª3,A,8,2
§5,4,©K,§7
¨A,5,7,4
#1 S::
#3 S::
#5 E::
#7 E::
E: Muller
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1
2
S
p
p
p
§9,J,A,3
§8,Q,K,2
ª4,7,©2,ª9
¨J,6,8,3
#2 N::
#4 W::
#6 W::
#8 E::
yusufb: aslˆ‰nda nezih yavaˆ ve dikkatli oynar
ˆ asˆ‰rdˆ‰m
murat: masada bi konuˆ ma geˆ§iyor ˆ u an
murat: direktˆ¶r ˆ§aˆ rˆ‰ldˆ‰
hobakan: ufak bir noktaya aˆ§ˆ‰klˆ‰k getireyim
kendi adˆ‰ma:)
hobakan: burada yaptˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰mˆ‰z ˆ ey yorum
ama iˆ§erisinde taraftarlˆ‰k da var:)
murat: http://img687.imageshack.us/i/img00045201011131625.jpg
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Gerben42: this probably wont swing a lot either
marlowepi: after D ace in dummy, lead club.
then heart ace and spade king. later can throw
both diamonds on spades after club ruff in dummy.
W ruffs with ntural trump trick and E doesnt get
...
marlowepi: his ruff
hedyg: yes
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hedyg: 1 or 1NT?
hobakan: ama tˆ…m bunlar 4 pik TAM durumunda
tartˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰lmasˆ‰ gereken hususlar idi..p
2celik1: wd Salvador Assael
marlowepi: oh, sorry just arrived didnt know
anyone had talked about the hand..1 !
h bertens: Not so easy for ew to bid there game
after this start
hedyg: 12-14 NT
tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ bulunabilecek mi?..p..1
tez: her masada 6♠ oynanacak..p
Gerben42: 2♣ = 11-15 with ♣
atalok: 7 nt gelinirmi?..1♠
tez: 3nt ye geleceˆ iz
hobakan: normal atak
Dam
tez: gˆ…neyin eliyle aˆ§ˆ‰lmazsa kuzey oynayacak.o
zaman kabak
hobakan: bir ˆ ekilde Bˆ…lent mˆ…dahil olmalˆ
‰ :)
atalok: nafiz abilerde oynar ama kuzeyden
yusufb: bence gelinir..p
yakop: 7 karonun ˆ ansˆ‰ cok yˆ…ksek 7 nt de
oluyo bu daˆ ˆ‰lˆ‰mla
hobakan: gelinir dicez tabi..
yusufb: 7 yada 7nt oynicaklar
murat: Nunes sakinledi bˆ…lten okuyor
hobakan: ˆ u an 7d dersek kˆ¶r kupu yeriz
tez: yapmasˆ‰ zor
champ i: 4 cl deni p x gelirse 6 yada gidilmez
atalok: guneyin eliyle aˆ§maz
tez: gˆ…neyden oynuyor nafiz..2
yusufb: cˆ‰kmayabilir ..p
yakop: ˆ ansˆ‰ yˆ…ksek dedim olur deˆ il tabii
ki 7 nt oynasˆ‰nlar isterim
hobakan: aynen aynen:)
atalok : belki sp 10 ˆ§ˆ‰kar meraklˆ‰dˆ‰r
bunlar
Gerben42: dbl is an interesting choice - will he
try to recover with 3♠ now?
sarkar_suk: they r playing power prec?
fabsayc: open room 3nt not horrible but over
ambitious
yusufb: ama yapˆ‰labilir..p
tez: dam
atak edildi.yaptˆ‰k
atalok: sen 2 sinidemi seyrediyon tez?
Gerben42: Tarzan precision
hedyg: got a dog?
hobakan: ben de 7
demeyelim diyorum..p
hobakan: :)
tez: ♣ ataˆ ˆ‰ avantaj ama yinede batar
Gerben42: its with lots of relay..♠5
sarkar_suk: thx gerben..♠Q
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marlowepi: this should be a good NS result by
fabsayc: he can afford three heart losers, only
anyone’s standards
h bertens: great result for ns
hobakan: as sorulamadˆ‰..♠K
tez: ˆ imdi kubac ♣ atak ederse batacak
tez: zor
champ i: h dam klasik atak cl zor
mcphee: all things going his way = 11 tricks
hedyg: 11 tricks and next
arigun: benim anlamadigim perde de fantoni ve
salvo birbirini goruyor atak ederken fantoniye
dogru alert gelmedi mi..♠6
murat: edildi Cengiz Abi. kˆ‰sacasˆ‰ konvansiyon
kartlarˆ‰ yetersiz ve farklˆ‰ aˆ§ˆ‰klamalarda
bulundular diye bir ˆ ikayette bulundular
yusufb : onlar aglˆ‰cak oyle yada boyle bi
onemi yokki
yakop: aˆ larken de italyan yapˆ‰yolar mˆ‰
murat:)
yusufb: bu konuˆ mada hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitti 4 cue
et diyo nezih
yusufb: hiˆ§ hoˆ uma gitmedi
murat: :) arasˆ‰ra
yusufb: salvo etmeli
tez:
yu bˆ‰rakacak
atalok: imkansˆ‰z
tez:
atak edilsin diye verilmiˆ kartlar
murat: Bˆ…lent’in suratˆ‰ ekˆ idi :)
tez: kuzey cue etse ♣ ile kontr atsa bulent aslan...tek
ˆ art
tez: hi all
fabsayc: welcome Tez
hobakan: hiˆ§ kc yok zannetti Nezih..♣9
tez: ben olsam 3♣ derdim aslanˆ‰n eliyle
funtay: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/championscup-2010 webcam canli
tez: ♠ gelmezse ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z var..♣J
champ i: sp apel verdi..♣A
tez: deer miˆ im:)
Gerben42: Tarzan was played by Johnny Weissmuller what’s in a name
tez: ♠ gelmeseydi yatˆ‰r kaldˆ‰r ˆ§ok iˆ i vardˆ
‰ ama yapardˆ‰..♣3..♠3
Gerben42:
behave so no problem here..♠A..
♠8..♠2..♣8..♣Q..♣K
sarkar_suk: yes card lies friendly
Gerben42: i dont think they care about making
the last trick with 7..♣2
tez: 8li ˆ§akmasˆ‰ iyi..♣5
tez: i thk 10 of ♠ was better
tez: he doesnt know ’s are friendly..♣4.. K..
♣7
danger is an unlikely diamond break (nobody lead
the suit)
tez: yes.sry
tez: it was right play
tez: ace
tez: yoksa kozda alamˆ‰yorlardˆ‰..♠4..♠7..
2..♠9
jbgood: Onstein tried 3 NT on 2 in the OR, for
2 down and another 3 imps for Angelini
mcphee: why the agony?
hedyg: W does not need those ♠s
atalok: 13 verebiliriz 16 alabiliriz.. A
yusufb: bu borddan malesef sayˆ‰ veririz
funtay: su anda webcamda gˆ¶rˆ…nenler Nezih
Kubac /kˆ‰rmˆ‰zˆ‰ formali ve Geir Helgamo..
5
tez: nicely played.. 7.. 4.. J.. 6.. 8.. 3
fabsayc: now claims
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Board
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EW:
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c 4
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this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
13
84
Angelini - ITA
60
W -2 200
W 4
620
4
3
♠ KQ865 42
8
92
2
2
AJ
7
♣ A5
♠A J 7
N ♠10 9
AK 8 4 3
Q J65
W E
Q
K10 9 5 4 2
S
♣J762
♣Q
♠3
9
5
10 7
10
8763
9
♣ K10 9 8 4 3
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W: Fantoni
W
1
p
5
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
1♠
4
4♠
p
p
p
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#1 N::ªQ,9,3,A
#3 N::§A,Q,T,6
#5 E::¨2,6,Q,A
#7 E::©Q,7,3,2
#9 E::¨T,7,§J,©9
E: Nunes
S
p
p
p
©
ª7,K,T,§8
ª6,©J,§3,ªJ
§5,©5,§4,2
¨K,3,§7,¨J
#2 W::
#4 N::
#6 N::
#8 E::
hedyg: Angelini sitting out this segment
niekbrink: The dutch scored 5 imps on the first
board of this session retaking the lead, now by 4
vugraphzur: now we are about to start bidding of
board 4
niekbrink: let..1
niekbrink: let’s hope for a more exciting session
than previous..1♠..4 ..p..p
djneill: suprised a little at the 4 opposite an
unlimited opening..4♠..p
djneill : West’s hand has no upper limit, it is
forcing
hedyg: Fantoni in the tank
niekbrink: I guess it will be 4spades X
hedyg: yes
hedyg: Q overtake and Q
hedyg: sry folks, no webcam
hedyg: guess Murat went home..
vugraphzur: no, he’s already here but i thk he
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hedyg: oh ok
hedyg: so we might get the live stream later
hedyg: Brink has surely passed, Fantoni thinking
niekbrink: let’s hope so, especially in situations
like this, it is fun to watch the plaers..p..5
hedyg: hmm
niekbrink : on a spade lead this should go 1
down..p..p..p..♠Q
niekbrink : wich seems a good result for the
Dutch
hedyg: easy defense for Drijver
djneill: would not East bid the same way with 5
hearts and a singleton spade..♠9..♠3..♠A
vugraphzur: now Murat left the room .. i thk he
lost his hope about connection
hedyg: Nunes didnt show any defensive values
so Fantoni worried 4♠ might make
hedyg: oh no! come back Murat, please! so many
specs asking about the live stream
niekbrink: spec telling me that on board 3 closed
room EW is in 2ha
brgpro: i am surprised for the choice of 5 ...
brgpro: ...
hedyg: hi Jack, welcome :)
niekbrink: HI uncle Jack :)
hedyg: Jack dont you think Nunes bis 4 like a
poor man with 5 s and singleton ♠?
niekbrink: maybe fantoni was afraid nunes had 5
hearts...
brgpro: hopefully my net will be ok now
niekbrink: but if that is possible, shouldn’t Nunes
haven’t doubled 4 spades?
hedyg: i have seen them bid 2NT with less than
this
vugraphzur: players in open room were very
happy about lack of connection bec. TD said that
they can start playing w/o waiting for scores of
closed room
hedyg: LOL..♠7..♠K..♠T..♣8..♣A
niekbrink: spec suggesting east should have bid
4diamonds.... sounds reasonable to me (or 3
diamonds, if that’s fit showing)..♣Q..♣T..♣6..♠
6
hedyg: or 2♠.. J..♣3..♠J.. 2.. 6.. Q.. A
hedyg: or anything but 4
niekbrink: The dutch scored 7 imps on board 3,
playing 2 hearts in the closed room and beating a
vulnerable 3nt by 2 at this table..♣5.. 5..♣4..♣
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 5
c 4
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this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
60
Onstein - NED
13
84
W -2 200
W 4
620
4
3
♠ KQ865 42
8
92
2
2
AJ
7
♣ A5
♠A J 7
N ♠10 9
AK 8 4 3
Q J65
W E
Q
K10 9 5 4 2
S
♣J762
♣Q
♠3
9
5
10 7
10
8763
9
♣ K10 9 8 4 3
5
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W: De Wijs
W
1
4
N: Helness
Closed
S: Helgemo
N
E
1♠
4
p
p
E: Muller
S
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p
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p
#1 N::§A,Q,T,6
#2 N::ªK,9,3,A
#3 W::¨Q,A,2,8
#4 N::ªQ,T,§4,ª7
#5 N::ª5,©Q,§3,ªJ #6 E::¨4,6,©8,¨J
#7 W::©A,2,5,7
atalok : bence 16 alma ˆ ansˆ‰mˆ‰z daha
yuksek..©Q..©7..©3..©2..¨K..¨3..♣7..¨J..¨
T..¨7..♣J..©9
Gerben42: an almost-slam here
djneill: hi all
hedyg: hi Dan, welcome :)
imp_jan: HI FOLKS
mcphee: hi
hedyg: and Jan :)
marlowepi: Not sure why W did not intervene,
but presumably due to volors and major suits
lengths. more generally, people play all kinds of
junk over opps NT, most of it much better suited
to .....1
marlowepi: MPs than to IMPs. The one thing that
methods designed for IMPs need to do is make
provision for showing the majors, because if you
have a game or a good partscore you can win the
...
marlowepi: declaration with, that is where it rates
to be. the now-passe Ripstra convention would
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Gerben42: 1 = forcing..1♠
tez: ♣ empas geˆ§miyor .. empas geˆ§miyor..4
!
marlowepi: colors, not volors:)..p
imp_jan: everybody is exited about the outcome
of this match
atalok: 2cl sonra 3 cl ˆ eklinde durulabilir..4
Gerben42: 2♣ = at least one of ♣, balanced, fit
marlowepi : that remark was not intended as
acritique of the EW methods--i dont even know
what they are. only pointing out that a method
that has long passed out of vogue has much to be
said ...
marlowepi: for it
fabsayc: helness 7222 shape so goes slow, will
bid 4s now
hobakan: :):) ..p
tez: 3nt iyi yer
tez: bakalˆ‰m gelecek miyiz
atalok: 1nt?..p
tez: her iki masada da batacak zonlar..az batan
kazanˆ‰r
atalok: minoredemi forsing?
hobakan: en yakˆ‰n anter
champ i: kenan 1 nt alert ne edildi
murat: angelini forcing dedi sanki
hobakan: sorulmamˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰tˆ‰r muhtemelen
ama biz ˆ§ok merak ettik bi zahmet sorsana
Murat
eccone: ♣ ler
murat: angelini sormadan aˆ§ˆ‰klama yapˆ‰yo
zaten saˆ olsun :)
tez: yapay sistem oynuyorlar..1♣ aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ dˆ
‰ˆ ˆ‰ndakiler limit aˆ§ˆ‰ˆ .kuvvetli olamaz
vugraphzus: Murat soruyor sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
eccone: yada rˆ¶le olabilir belki
champ i: 9-11 cller galiba
tez: 2♣ 2 ya transfer..sonra 2 nt diyerek davet
edecek
murat: Fantoni sorular sordu
tez: zorlu bu elle daveti kabul eder sanˆ‰rˆ‰m
hedyg: 1♣=16+..p
mcphee: nip and tuck for sure
champ i: 4 h oluyor 3 nt batˆ‰yor..♣A
murat: 1NT GF dendi ˆ imdi
murat: fakat 2dia minimummuˆ
eccone: ˆ imdi ?
hedyg: 1 0-7
imp_jan: francesco arrived here in izmir by boat
fabsayc: oh well 0 for 1
murat: dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla Boye pas dedi..♣Q
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murat: Boye ne diyeceˆ imi bilemedim pas dedim
diyor
hobakan: baˆ larˆ‰m Boye iˆ e ben yaa
hobakan: 3 ♣ desin 5 ♣ desin:)
champ i: 5 karoda desinler
murat: Angelini: niye 2tref degil
murat: Boye: Bu el uygun deˆ iˆ
murat: *deˆ il
atalok: saˆ§maladˆ‰lar kazandˆ‰lar kˆ‰sa ozet
bu bence
murat: ˆ imdilik bˆ…tˆ…n dedikodu bu kadar :)
champ i: kesinlikle
hobakan: bu da uyar mˆ‰?
hedyg: sry 0-8..♣T
imp_jan: angelini that is..♣6
djneill: looks like East is superaccepting the
transfer with the great hand for
imp_jan: yesterday he was still a little shaky (due
to the waves)
hedyg: 1NT denies 19+
mcphee: yes
imp_jan: today he is figthing
hedyg: :)
djneill: mirror distribution almost will hurt a
little, and we’ll see about the restricted choice in
hearts
mcphee: the ♠ spots are just enough to let 3
make I think, with the right view in trumps
imp_jan: the latest news is that next year Iceland
very likely will be the host for the 10th EC Cup
hedyg: 2 xfer, 2♠ looks like a preaccept
fabsayc: this looks like an easy make to me
tez: 3 nt yi yaptˆ‰rdˆ‰k diˆ er masada ..♠K
tez: ˆ§ok farketti
tez: doˆ ru ♠ dˆ¶nˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…de bulmuˆ tuk
hobakan: ufak bir not verelim.. Milli takˆ‰mda
kim deˆ iˆ irse deˆ iˆ sin 2000 li yˆ‰llarˆ‰n baˆ ˆ
‰ndan beri deˆ iˆ meyen tek oyuncu Brogeland
tez: 1 iˆ§eri muhtemel
hobakan: big bradˆ‰r 200 diyor
tez: 3 nt yapˆ‰lˆ‰yordu..dolayˆ‰sˆ‰yla sayˆ
‰ kaybedebiliriz
hobakan: 2
p-p- gelince 3 da bir alternetif
olabilir miydi diye ......♠9
Gerben42 : now Fantoni must bid 5 as he
knows no control..♠3
tez: yorum yapsam tutuklanˆ‰rˆ‰m.onun iˆ§in
susmak en iyisi bu elle ilgili..♠A
hobakan: Helgamo nun oynamadˆ‰ˆ ˆ‰ zamanlarda
da , dˆ…nya ˆ ampiyonluˆ unu kazandˆ‰klarˆ‰
nda da
murat: Bˆ…lent biraz daha aˆ§ˆ‰klama aldˆ‰
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fabsayc: can set up the diamonds
tez: apel defosta anlaˆ amadˆ‰lar.. Q
tez: ♠ 9 lu saˆ kalˆ‰yor
hedyg: 3 another xfer
2celik1 : eyvah eyvah hem 3nt olmus hem de
burada 4 deklare edildi.. A
djneill: South was beginning to hope they would
play in with all West’s ART bids
hedyg: lol
hedyg: no, 3 was not a cuebid.. 2
djneill: South has a small clue in that North did
not double ANY of the bids, maybe North has
something elsewhere.. 8..♠Q..♠T
mcphee : i suspect he will manage this with
elimination play
fabsayc: fantoni erred with spade return and then
they tapped dummy effectively
funtay: Bilmiyenler icin: asagida yer alan Gˆ B
yazisini tiklayip en alttaki double dummy analizleri
secenegini tiklarsaniz el hakkinda olup olmayacaˆ
i bilgi veriyor program..♣4..♠7
hedyg: there goes the
loser?..♠5
hobakan : belki bizimkiler hiˆ§ mˆ…dahale
etmezse Sˆ…leymanˆ‰n dediˆ i gibi 16 da alˆ‰r
ˆ‰z yani:).. Q
tez: onada bˆ…yˆ…k abi diyoruz biz..hiˆ§ hata
yapmaz
fabsayc: playing the diamond first allows declarer
to win the race..♣3..♠J
fabsayc: diamond now but not absolutely clear to
ruff low
fabsayc: knowing north has 7 spades, he might
infer the 7222 shape for such mild bidding
tez: 3 nt de 4♠ birde
alˆ‰yoruz.. 4
tez: ikisi de sinirlenmiˆ tir bu bordta
mcphee: lose 2♣ 1 1♠.. 6
djneill: muller will mull this jack
hedyg: only 1♠?
mcphee: yes
hedyg: lets see
tez: 4 bitek
partajˆ‰na super oyun.. 8
murat: bu elden gˆ¶rˆ…ntˆ…ler: http://img812.imageshack.us
/i/s4s.mp4/
funtay: ancak 4 el acik analiz
tez: oyun masada oynanˆ‰yor ˆ u anda internette
deˆ il..yanda operator var..ismi genellikle kenan
oluyor
tez: o kiˆ i masada olan biteni bize aktarˆ‰yor
hobakan: Kolata aˆ§ˆ‰klamalara en gˆ…zel aˆ§ˆ
‰klamayˆ‰ getirdi. Doˆ u ile Batˆ‰nˆ‰n
ellerini deˆ iˆ tirirsek 11 lˆ¶ve alˆ‰nabiliyor basit
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ˆ§e.. J.. A
tez : biliyorlarki ayaklarˆ‰ zon oynayˆ‰p
batacak
mcphee: if he guesses to drop the
hedyg: overtake and ♠?
hedyg: hmmm.. 2
djneill: oof.. 5.. 7
atalok : batarsˆ‰n ˆ§ˆ‰karsˆ‰n o ayrˆ‰da
deklerasyon saˆ§ma idi
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 6
c 3N
¨
5
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
84
Angelini - ITA
10
70
E 6
920
W 6
490
5
990
♠ K Q10 4
J632
♣9 7 5 3 2
♠ 62
N ♠A 8 3
84
A Q10 7
W E
A K Q10 9 6 2
85
S
♣10 8
♣AK Q 4
♠J975
K95
J743
♣J6
W: Fantoni
W
1♠
4♠
4N
6
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
p
1♣
p
2N
X
XX
p
5
p
p
1
6
5-4
0
5
12
7-6
7-8
12
8-7
E: Nunes
S
p
p
p
p
p
¨
¨
#1 S::ª7,2,Q,A
#2 E::¨5,3,A,§7
#3 W::§8,2,A,6
#4 E::¨8,7,T,©2
#5 W::¨K,©6,7,¨4 #6 W::¨Q,©3,T,¨J
#7 W::¨2,ª4,3,5
#8 W::§T,5,K,J
#9 E::§Q,©5,ª6,§3 #10 E::ª8,9,¨6,ªT
#11 W::¨9,©J,§4,ªJ #12 W::©4,§9,©A,9
#13 E::©Q,K,8,ªK
djneill: only hope here for E-W is that 4© goes
down in other room and North lets them play it,
an unlikely scenario but we’ll see
niekbrink: EW can make slam on this hand..p..1
♣
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brgpro: will they reach 6 here?
hedyg: Muller bid 4 in CR with the bd 4 hand
hedyg : 1 ♣ 14+ nat or 15+ balanced..p..1 ♠ !
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..p..2N
djneill: West chooses 1♠ (no major) rather than
2 (nat game force) since wants to FORCE east
to declare this hand
brgpro: 1♠ showed
hedyg: 1♠= 0-9, no M
brgpro: ok
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Walddk2: I would of course find 4 diamonds with
North. I am very unlucky
brgpro: now he has to bid 4 now
djneill: 2NT = 19-20
hedyg: hey Roland :)
Walddk2: Hi all
niekbrink: Hi roland
brgpro: i dont know their system but there has to
be a way to show good
hedyg: 2NT= 19+..p..4♠!
brgpro: note that 6NT might be in trouble after a
♠ lead
hedyg: 1NT would be 15-18
brgpro: aha, so they play 2 level transfers after
2NT
hedyg: this looks like a quantitative 4NT xfer
hedyg: XX= 1st rd cotrl.. ..r
brgpro: that means after 2NT, 4♣= and 4 =♠,
4 /♠=♣ / , with slam interest
hedyg: control even
brgpro: yes, 12 top tricks in NT..p..4N!..p..5
..p..6
Walddk2 : Could have been vital to let East
declare 6 (NT is already there) but it does not
matter as it is. 12 top tricks
niekbrink : spec suggesting 7nt on a double
squeeze..p..p
djneill: 4N = turbo = even keycards (for )
hedyg: E is declaring..p
Walddk2: Indeed he is
niekbrink: souht needs to guard the heart, north
the clubs, and who can keep spades?
hedyg: to beat 13 tricks?..♠7..♠2..♠Q..♠A.. 5
Walddk2: Sorry, I don’t see any double squeeze..
3
niekbrink: no communication i think.. A
brgpro: without ♠ lead he might have..♣7..♣8..
♣2..♣A..♣6.. 8.. 7.. T
niekbrink: would be cool though... :)
brgpro: double squeeze
brgpro: now the A is knocked out
hedyg: i know just how Drijver feels!.. 2.. K..
6.. 7.. 4.. Q
djneill: ok 4 came home, Onstein surges ahead
more
hedyg: bd 4 4 = in CR
brgpro: he can bare ♠A in dummy to squeeze
both NS, as long as he knows the position of KJ
hedyg: that was 13 imps
niekbrink: so, we started the Italians with 1 ahead,
but the Dutch scored 25 imps on the first 4 board,
leading by 24
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niekbrink: Thanks Jack :)
Walddk2: Yes, but with East as declarer only an
impossible diamond lead will lead to that position.
Club or heart 13 tricks automatically, spade 12
tricks.. 3.. T.. J.. 2..♠4..♠3..♠5..♣T..♣5..
♣K..♣J..♣Q.. 5
Walddk2: and no squeeze..♠6..♣3..♠8..♠9..
6..♠T.. 9
djneill: this is a showup squeeze, looks good,
does nothing in this case.. J..♣4..♠J.. 4..♣9..
A.. 9.. Q.. K.. 8..♠K
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 6
c 3N
5
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this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
10
70
Onstein - NED
84
E 6
920
W 6
490
5
990
♠ K Q10 4
J632
♣9 7 5 3 2
♠ 62
N ♠A 8 3
84
A Q10 7
W E
A K Q10 9 6 2
85
S
♣10 8
♣AK Q 4
♠J975
K95
J743
♣J6
W: De Wijs
W
©
¨
2
3
3N
ª
N: Helness
Closed
S: Helgemo
N
E
p
1♣
p
2♠
p
3♠
p
p
1
6
5-4
0
5
kuvvetli bir iki takimdan biri
tez: 7NT with double sqz
vugraphzus: welcome and hi all..2♠!
hedyg: 12-14 NT
hedyg: even 4 4 4 1 hands qualify
djneill: 2♣ = majors we think
hedyg: we are so clever LOL
hobakan: tutmuyorum kˆ¶rˆ… demek..p
Gerben42: 1♣ strong 2 balanced 3NT me too? :)
djneill: not a new convention, has been around
for at least 50 years?
fabsayc: ground hog day in November
Walddk4 : There is a typo in North’s name,
operator, Sylvan..3 !
vugraphzus: ok
Walddk4: you reversed the L and Y
Walddk4: And the Icelanders have an i not the
Turkish y
tez: 3nt
fitini reddediyor
murat: 2 = 10-12p 5+
2celik1: iceride 6♣ denildi..p
hedyg: as a matter of fact the CC confirms that
djneill: before that they didn’t get these computer
hands so they had to adjust :-)
fabsayc : a special type called a compound
squeeze
fabsayc: i think however they will end in 6
henryb: Hello all
fabsayc: actually on second look, the squeeze
does not work, and welcome Henry
bt: thx roland i will be here a while only..3♠!
Walddk4: Sigurjonsson Ingimarsson
Walddk4: Thanks
jbgood: EBL page also infected i am told
hedyg: lol
mcphee: maybe redble shows 2-2 with minors
vugraphzus: np sry about that ..p
jbgood: Fantunes bid to 4 on 3 - so another
leader...
Walddk4: np..3N
hobakan: 10-13 diyolardˆ‰
serhat: 6C olmaz pik cˆ‰kˆ‰lˆ‰rsa, sanirim..p
tez: 4 transferi al yoksa ateˆ ederim demek
bt: this is an ok game that does not make..p..p
champ i: 3 nolu board 6 nt de durdular
atalok: gitti bizim 16
champ i: gˆ¶ksu multy aˆ§tˆ‰ 1.den
yusufb: nt oynadˆ‰lar giden 13 olcaktˆ‰
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7-6
7-8
12
8-7
E: Muller
S
p
p
p
p
#1 N:: K,,,
tez: kuzey pas derdi..uˆ§ardˆ‰
ler
champ i: angelinin aˆ§ˆ‰p 2 karoda kalˆ‰nan
bir sistem yoktur herhalde
champ i: maˆ§tan sonra yani
djneill: not a success for the superaccept..p
2celik1: 4 boardu iceride 2♠ oynanmis..1♣!
vugraphzus: ben siliyorum maˆ§ bitince:)
Gerben42: someone heat up the dealer pls
mcphee: I think he misplayed it
hobakan: egale olmasˆ‰nˆ‰ umduˆ umuz elden
de 5 kaybederek geri dˆ…ˆ tˆ…k bu devrede
de...p
hobakan: kenan da olmasa:)
champ i: kenan sorarsada iyi ˆ eyler yazdlar de
tez: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives
/vugraph_archives.php buradanda kaˆ§ˆ‰rdˆ‰ˆ
ˆ‰nˆ‰z yayˆ‰nlarˆ‰ izleyebilirsiniz
funtay : rakip takima yenilen oyuncularimiza
hicbir sey demeyiz hatta kutlariz
jbgood: rsult page reported to be infected by
virus!! DO NOT OPEN!
Walddk4: Welcome to Lars Andersson..2 !..p
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tez: zorlu demek istemiˆ tim
champ i: 6 h var cl doˆ ru empasa
hobakan: 3 NT
funtay : bu takim Dˆ…nyada olusabilecek en
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Gerben42: on a
© lead you can play ¨ to J for
your 9th trick
jbgood: and they just bid to 4♠ on 4
fabsayc: wow..♠K
hobakan: :)
djneill: the spots in the majors will be useful
mcphee: they sure are
Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
6
6
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
84
Angelini - ITA
70
N
-1
50
N
-1
50
9
♠ A K J10 3
10
QJ6
7
8
K8
6
♣A 5 2
♠8 6 5 2
N ♠Q
K543
10 7 2
W E
A5
Q97 3
S
♣Q 9 4
♣K J 7 6 3
♠9 7 4
4
3
A98
5
J10 6 4 2
5
♣10 8
7
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W
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N: Drijver
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S: Brink
N
E
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4♠
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#1 E:: 7,8,K,6
#2 W:: 2,A,Q,4
#3 N:: 2,3,T,Q
#4 W:: 5,3, 6, 7
#5 S:: 8,4,A,7
#6 N:: 5,J, 9, 9
#7 S:: 9,3,Q,2
#8 N:: K, T, 2, 6
#9 N:: J, K, 4, 8 #10 N:: J, 3, A,4
#11 S:: J,5,8,Q
#12 E:: 7,6,A,K
#13 W:: 5, T, 9,T
brgpro: some ask me how the squeeze works...well,
after 5 rounds of trumps, N has to keep 8 cards, 4
♣ 3 and 1♠, then we can squeeze S in the
majors( kind of criss cross ruffing .....p
brgpro: squeeze)
hedyg: there was a position, but that was a bit
DD..p
djneill: I don’t think other room will miss that
slam..p
hedyg: even i would find it
Walddk2: No, they may bid 7
brgpro: do u think they will bid this to 4♠?
Walddk2: And if they do the lead is interesting
djneill: they better not bid 7 but then if they get
no ♠ lead you saying it makes :-)
djneill: I encourage everyone to play through
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that movie if it happens
niekbrink: 4 spades seems pretty high on this
hand
hedyg: not sure we are connected anymore..1♠
..p..2♠..p..4♠..p..p..p.. 7.. 8.. K.. 6
vugraphzur: we are still waiting Fantoni for trick
2
Walddk2: In theory, this is on a diamond guess
but there is more to it than that
Walddk2: Declarer doesn’t know about spades
hedyg: all ok now
hedyg: high lead from even with honour or odd
without
djneill: ok no slam other room, wow
hedyg: but looking at 345 , is the 7 high?..♠2
Walddk2: Now it’s just the D guess..♠A..♠Q..♠
4..♣2..♣3..♣T..♣Q
niekbrink: at least the set is very exciting so far..
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NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c 4♠
6
6
this/total IMPs
Angelini - ITA
70
Onstein - NED
84
N
-1
50
N
-1
50
9
♠ A K J10 3
10
QJ6
7
8
K8
6
♣A 5 2
♠8 6 5 2
N ♠Q
K543
10 7 2
W E
A5
Q97 3
S
♣Q 9 4
♣K J 7 6 3
♠9 7 4
4
3
A98
5
J10 6 4 2
5
♣10 8
7
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W: De Wijs
W
p
p
p
N: Helness
Closed
S: Helgemo
N
E
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#2 W:: 9,A,6,T
#3 N:: 2,J, 7, 4
#4 S:: 2,5,K,3
#5 N:: 8,7,T,A
#6 W:: 6,J,Q,4
#7 E:: 7,8,K,6
tez: maˆ§ bi anda umutsuz hale geldi..♠3..♣6..♠
7..♣8..♣4..♣A..♣7..♣5..♣J..♠9..♣9.. 9.. 3..
Q.. 2..♠K.. T.. 2..♠6..♠J..♣K.. 4..♠8..
J.. 3.. A.. 4.. J.. 5.. 8.. Q.. 7.. 6..
A.. K.. 5..♠T.. 9.. T
serhat: evet, malesef. aslˆ‰nda burda 6h dememeleri
bir sans idi. yine 1-4 trefe boyun egildi..
fabsayc: major system glitch here
djneill: all pushes so far..p
atalok: yine siftah lazˆ‰m bize ..p
marlowepi: specs asking about this auction. i
dont have system notes, both looks like ordinary
opener, 2C either inverted minor that does not
deny a 4 card major or else a general GF. natural
...
marlowepi : rebid, shortness 3S, 4H perhaps
control or maybe KC. all guesses, likely wrong
funtay: daha cok bord var umutsuz olmak iˆ§in
erken..p
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hobakan : bu turnuvayˆ‰ 1 kere Almanya
kazandˆ‰. gerisini italyan takˆ‰mlarˆ‰ kazandˆ
‰
Gerben42: 1 could be short
Walddk4: Welcome to Drew Casen..1♠
drewsky: morning all
bt: hi drew..p
vugraphzus: welcome
atalok: 1 imp alalˆ‰m once
funtay: 9 seneden beri yapiliyor bu turnuva
djneill: what should North do? E-W could be
weak or strong and only they know
mcphee: 2 is to play i guess so do we dble as
N?
djneill: that looks best, but then what to bid over
2♠ or 3
mcphee: 2 was short
3 suited
hedyg: 11-15, short
bt: missing 7 was worth 12 imps for ns, bridge
is an easy game lol..2♠
drewsky: Here, 1 showed 4+ hearts, and 2
was a simple raise to 2
bt : and i the system structure i think west is
supposed to pass
bt: now
mcphee: i suppose they have leb..p
mcphee: oh maybe not
djneill: lhosnebel
hedyg: wanting to bid 3NT?
djneill: I think the Bridz (World) magazines are
calling us for a problem submission
djneill: and IMP :-)
hedyg: lol
hedyg: Jan are you taking notes?
vugraphzus: Nunes thinks
tez: her iki masadada 2nt oynanˆ‰yor..4♠..p
Gerben42: Fantoni betweeen pass and 3♣, or
even 2♠ hoping for 4-3 fit
Gerben42: at least 2 isnt game
Gerben42: at this vuln. passing is reasonable
Gerben42: 2♠ 2 1 1 = 200
Gerben42: 1♣ i mean
sarkar_suk: deal no 4 onstein bid 6h on open
room
Gerben42: credit Helgemo Helness for putting on
pressure with 1♠ 3♠
Gerben42: Fantoni still torn between his options
Gerben42: the longer he thinks the more likely
he will try 2♠ I guess
Gerben42: the basic question is would he double
1 with something like 4513
funtay: 3nt iˆ§in hersey uygun dagilmiˆ ..p
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champ i: evet
tez: doˆ u batˆ‰nˆ‰n ellerini deˆ iˆ tirsek 1 nt
olmaz..ˆ imdi 4 nt olacak
2celik1: belki de 5
tez: herˆ ey yerli yerinde
tez: italyan takˆ‰mˆ‰nda 3 norveˆ§li oyuncu
var
hedyg: great selfcontrol!
champ i: kontur..p
jbgood: Fantunes also bid to 6 on the previous
one
henryb: My ditch is not great, so if you want to
make comments to me, English is better
henryb: dutch
marlowepi : guessing NS headed for doomed
game..♣3
djneill: well if 3 indeed is weak, then 9 fast
tricks on a lead require perfection
murat: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/
European_championships/TeamChampionships.asp?
qmenuid=19..♣8
mcphee: well this lead choice will save a trick I
think..♣Q
bt: now east just has to guess
or , does that
make it a 75% game?..♣5
atalok : neden konturlamadˆ‰ nezih en fazla
yapar ortagˆ‰ zonda aˆ§mˆ‰ˆ
Gerben42: 2♠ is just too speculative, 3♣ ditto,
and -180 isnt the end of the world, so he takes his
chances here
Gerben42: on a good day pd has 3424 and opps
have no fit
mcphee: W was a little pushy bidding 3 , even
tho he may find 4 card support
mcphee: nice switch
hedyg: yes but Muller did not promise more than
3 s
mcphee: right
hedyg: he can have any 5 4 1 3 hand
hedyg: as well as 4 4 1 4
fabsayc: looks like this will be on diamond guess
fabsayc: my turkish is worse than my Dutch
henryb: does he have clues? perhaps: will know
East started with stiff spade amd ♣KJ. Perhaps
with A also would have made a to double of 1
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previous board got to 3♠ after opening 1♠ on the
9 HCP..♣9..♣A..♣6
champ i: irde bu kadar geriyken ..♣T
atalok : boyle ˆ§eyler onemlidir veriri 800 u
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atalok: bari korlerden sonra sp donselerde ˆ§ok
finesse
batˆ‰rsak yine 12 imp alˆ‰rˆ‰z
champ i: zonda 2 karo aˆ§ˆ‰lmˆ‰ˆ ken x suz ge
ˆ§mesi dˆ…ˆ ˆ…nˆ…lemez
tez: bizimkiler 4 kontrlu oynuyor
atalok: sp donerlerse fazla degisiklik olmaz
tez: sayˆ‰ vereceˆ iz yari
atalok: tez hoca?
champ i: 2 iˆ§eri x lu 300
fabsayc: yes twice past hand is a slight clue, but
also kind of works if you apply to west also
drewsky: I believe this hand is cold for 4 if
declarer NEVER touches hearts ..♣2
Gerben42: i hear Helness is playing 3 x even
atalok: hayˆ‰rlˆ‰ haber yokmu hiˆ§?..♣J
tez: iki masayˆ‰da seyrediyorum.ne yapayˆ‰
m..yalan haber mi?
atalok: bursa 0 trabzon 2 soranlara
tez: izmirde vugraf salonundayˆ‰m
fabsayc: he first has to play a top spade
bt: good idea..♠7..♣4
Walddk4: Welcome to Wayne Stuart.. 2
wstuart: Hi all.
Walddk4: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions
/10Izmir/Results.htm for results and running
scores
bt: ♣A ♣K and ♣ ruff to start with is normal
bt: and then he sees the drew line, lol
drewsky: South’s failure to shift to s marks
him with the queen
tez: 2 iˆ§eri.. 5
2celik1: Tezcan Hocanin dedigi gibi oldu.. K
tez: hepsi mecburi hamle
mcphee: so 1 in the glue
Gerben42: so could be 7 imps to Onstein.. 3
sarkar_suk: very important & much needed 7
imp gain for onstein on tha deal
Gerben42: still a long way
Gerben42: 500 confirmed from other room
Gerben42: he has entry problems
Gerben42: he would like to play a 4th ♠ but then
cannot get ♣K in
henryb: yes, but West had a balanced 7 or 9
count and spade length.
tez:
as alˆ‰p oynarsa.. 8.. 7
fabsayc: helness saw something
jbgood: same contract open room.. T.. A..♠6
fabsayc : or maybe an extra chance to set up
diamonds this way to avoid a heart loser when
king onside
henryb: I think perhaps he should have cashed
the ♠A first. Now his best plsy in trumps is the
henryb: stiff small is four times as likely as stiff
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fabsayc: does the spade lead change anything
henryb: no
tez: belki 1 imp kurtarˆ‰rˆ‰z..♠J
funtay: bu turnuvada transfer serbest:)..♠Q
drewsky: Devils coup variation coming up here..
♠4
henryb: sorry. the spade changes nothing, and
the score is cumulative
tez: ♠ 10 oynayacak.. 7.. 8
hobakan: kontursuz gitmeseydi iyiydi ama her 2
oyuncumuz da dbl diyecek gˆ…ˆ§ gˆ¶remedi
ellerinde.. K
mcphee: and even that is a bit lucky I think
drewsky: now he will probably go down.. 6
bt: now east will get a count of the hand
bt: unfortunately
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Board
NS:
EW:
o 4♠
c
7
7
this/total IMPs
Onstein - NED
Angelini - ITA
S 4
620
5
♠ K10 3
10
6
5
10
AK 9 7 4 2
10
♣ A K10
♠A 5 2
N ♠ 864
542
A K Q10 9 8 7
W E
J85
Q6
S
♣J843
♣9
♠Q J 9 7
8
3
J3
8
10 3
3
♣Q 7 6 5 2
3
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W: Fantoni
W
p
p
p
N: Drijver
Open
S: Brink
N
E
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X
p
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ª3,4,Q,A
©A,J,4,ªK
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#1 W::
#3 N::
#5 E::
#7 S::
E: Nunes
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p
S
p
p
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hedyg: :)
niekbrink: that was slightly unlucky
Walddk2: I dare say
Walddk2: 5 boards to go..p..p
hedyg: Helness in 4♠ on a ♣ lead..1 ..4
Walddk2: He’ll have the same guess eventually..p..p..
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Walddk2: Could be 84-82 soon
niekbrink: this is another tough board..4♠..p
niekbrink: 3-3 spade split is useful in 4 spades.
but the 4-1 club break isn’t helpful..p..p
brgpro: 4♠ makes
niekbrink: what’s the best defense?.. 2
niekbrink: second round of hearts?.. 6
hedyg: cant they beat this by playing 2 s now
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niekbrink: then duck the ace of spades once
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#2 E:: 9,6,3,T
#4 W:: 8,K, 6, 5
#6 N:: T,8,J,2
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break in the minors..♣9
hedyg: not anymore..♣6
brgpro: well, after seeing ♠ 3-3, he will cash
b4 ♣, if 4-1 then ♣ must be 3-2
brgpro : when E shows up with 2 , then he
knows his 7-3-2-1 distribution, so he can safely
cash 1 more ♣( make sure) then give W a ,
knowing he has no more
hedyg: with Niek’s defense he cannot ruff a
and a and pull trumps
niekbrink: sorry, lost connection..♣3..♣T
brgpro : he doesnt have to ruff a , just pull
yrumps and give W a trick..♠3
hedyg: fasten seatbelt..♠4..♠Q
brgpro: now he is safe i think
Walddk2: Helness going down in 4♠ in a different
way on board 6
Walddk2: Losing to ♠Q
niekbrink : so both declarers lost a queen to
east....
hedyg: after K was drawing A♠ not safe?
brgpro: niek, say defence starts with 2 , u ruff
and play trumps, W will duck one, takes 2nd and
play 3rd , u ruff and play last trump. now
knowing E is 7-3 in the majors. all u have to ...
brgpro: do is to cash Ak, if they are 4-1 then E
must have 2♣, when E shows up with 2 , u just
cash ♣A, seeing 1♣ by E, u can see all 13 cards
now. then u safely duck a to make ...
brgpro: this
brgpro: nobody has any trumps
niekbrink: I see
niekbrink: you are right jack
niekbrink : i missed that there were no more
hearts with west
brgpro: but now it is much easier for declarer
brgpro: he can even ruff a to set up the suit..♠
A..♣8..♣K..♠6..♣5.. A.. J.. 4
brgpro: well, if E is 2-1 in the black suits, i dont
think he can make, so just draw trumps.....♠K
niekbrink: i think he is considering what to do if
east ruffed from 2 small spades
brgpro: he cant come back to hand
hedyg: then he just goes down
niekbrink: as Jack pointed out, no way to make
then... so....
brgpro: missing ♠8xx by W? no way to make
this!..♠T..♠8
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hedyg: sry Niek :).. Q.. 3
niekbrink : seems like south has to guess the
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