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#20 (332) z 3 ivnisi, 2015 weli z gamodis oTxSabaTs z WWW.SAERTOGAZETI.GE z fasi 1 lari
mamuka areSiZe:
baqo
ivaniSvilis da RaribaSvilis
urTierToba imdenad Rrmaa, rom qarTul
presas, romlis didi nawili yviTelia, ar
aqvs imis Sno, maT Soris mtroba gaaRvivos
oTxi dRe `cecxlovan
qveyanaSi~, anu san
seviram, azerbaijan!
saakaSvili imitom
dainiSna am postze, rom
odesa ruseTs Caabaros?
giorgi burjanaZe:
roca ucxoel muSas maRal xelfass
uxdi da adgilobriv muSaxels
ufasod amuSaveb, amas kriminali
da qveynis abuCad agdeba qvia
sodomi
Sapitos Sou da
poroSenkos `paraSa~
-
gazeTi moazrovne
mkiTxvelisTvis
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qarTuli diasporis dRes,
27 maiss, Tbilisis ivane javaxiSvilis saxelobis saxelmwifo universitetSi gaixsna pirveli diasporuli profesiuli
forumi „gauziare gamocdileba
samSoblos“. forums daeswrnen
saqarTvelos premier ministri,
Tbilisis meri, saqarTvelos
kaTolikos-ppatriarqi ilia meore, mTavrobis wevrebi da diplomatiuri korpusis warmomadgenlebi. forumi irakli RaribaSvilma gaxsna, romelmac
qveyanaSi ori wlis ganmavlobaSi ganxorcielebul reformebze da diasporasTan dakavSirebul problematikaze isaubra.
premierma emigrantebs Seaxsena,
rom saqarTveloSi mxolod 3
milion 700 000 qarTveli
darCa da samSobloSi dabrunebisken mouwoda. forumis monawileebi daloca da emigrantebs samSobloSi male dabruneba usurva saqarTvelos kaTolikos-ppatriarqma.
Cven SevecadeT gagverkvia,
ra konkretuli Sedegi gamoiRo forumma, ra gamocdileba
gagviziares Cvenma emigrantebma
da rogoria am mimarTulebiT
saxelmwifos samomavlo gegmebi
da diasporis sakiTxebSi saxelmwifo ministris moadgi-
les sandro bregaZes davukavSirdiT:
_ mogexsenebaT, rom forumis ZiriTadi slogani iyo „gauziare gamocdileba samSoblos“. forumze Camosulebi iyvnen samecniero da socialuri
sferos warmomadgenlebi, ekonomistebi, inJinrebi, eqimebi,
pedagogebi, anu is adamianebi,
romlebic warmatebulad moR-
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
mac qveyanaSi emigrantebis mcire, magram raRac raodenoba mainc daabruna. Tu iqneba amis
survili, konkretuli proeqtebi da SemoTavazebebi, saministro gaxdeba erTgvari Suamavali Sesabamis uwyebebTan,
imisaTvis, rom emigrantebs mieceT SeRavaTiani pirobebi biznesis samSobloSi sawarmoeblad. Tu romelime warmatebul
eqims an nebismieri sxva sferos
an wasuli, magram cota sawyeni da gasakviria, rom saqarTvelos farglebs gareT myofi milioneri da miliarderi qarTvelebi TavianT Tanamemamuleebs
ar exmarebian. am TvalsazrisiT,
somxeTi CvenTan SedarebiT ramdenime aTeuli nabijiT win
aris, roca procentuli maCvenebliT da statistikiT, milioneri da miliarderi qarTvelebis raodenoba sazRvargareT samjer da oTxjer aRemateba SeZlebuli somexi emigrantebis raodenobas. qarTve-
sandro bregaZe:
kargi iqneba, rom ucxoeTSi moRvawe
qarTvelma biznesmenebma somexi
biznesmenebisgan iswavlon, rogor unda
sakuTari samSoblos da xalxis siyvaruli
vaweoben ucxoeTSi da warmoadgenen qarTul diasporas evropisa Tu amerikis kontinentis
qveynebSi. forumi dayofili
iyo sxvadasxva panelad, sadac
xdeboda erTgvari gamocdilebis gaziareba Tanamemamuleebi-
rad Cabma saqarTvelos politikur da ekonomikur cxovrebaSi. vfiqrobT, rom es sakmaod
waadgeba qveynis aRmSeneblobis
saqmes. ra Tqma unda, sami dRis
ganmavlobaSi veranairi sakiTxi
ver gadawydeboda, Tumca, pirveli nabijebi gadadgmulia da,
vfiqrob, rom Sedegi aucileblad dadgeba.
_ rogor Sexvdnen emigrantebi premieris mowodebas samSobloSi dabrunebaze?
_ ra Tqma unda, saxelmwifos da ToToeuli Cvenganis
survilia, rom ucxoeTSi moRvawe qarTvelebi samSoblos daubrundnen, magram amisTvis saWiroa, rom maT hqondeT is pirobebi, romlebic TavianT qveyanaSi normaluri cxovrebis
garantias miscems. imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom qveyanas 70
wlis manZilze dakarguli
hqonda Tavisufleba da Semde-
warmomadgenels saqarTveloSi dabrunebisa da moRvaweobis survili aqvs,
Cven gavuwevT Suamavlobas Sesabamis
uwyebebTan maTi profesionalizmis gaTvaliswinebiT.
_ aseTi SemTxvevebi gqoniaT?
_ ramdenime SemTxveva ukve iyo da
moxarulni viqnebiT,
Tu momavalSic iqneba. pirdapir getyviT, rom magaliTad,
israelis saxelmwifo aSenda da dResac Sendeba ucxoeTSi moRvawe ebraelebis samSobloSi dabrunebis Sedegad, imitom rom, swored maTi dabrunebiT moxda Zlieri saxelmwi-
gi 20 weli, faqtobrivad,
ngrevis procesi mimdinareobda.
Znelia, erT da or dReSi qarTuli emograciis warmomadgenlebs daaxvedro iseTi situacia, rogoric aqvT, magaliTad,
safrangeTSi, avstriaSi, germaniaSi, evropis da msoflios
wamyvan qveynebSi. Cveni saministros egidiT ganxorcielebulia ramdenime proeqti, romel-
fos Camoyalibeba. Tundac Cveni
mezobeli somxeTis magaliTi
aviRoT, romlis ekonomikis
udidesi nawili mis emigraciaze modis. mTelma msofliom
icis, rom somxeTi Tavisi diasporiT cxovrobs da grZnobs
mis daxmarebas. samwuxarod,
CvenTan SedarebiT gansxvavebuli situaciaa. ar aris saubari
im adamianebze, romlebic ucxo
qveynebSi ojaxis sarCenad ari-
saTvis. Zalian saintereso iyo
ucxoeTsa da saqarTveloSi
moRvawe Jurnalistebis Sexvedra, azrTa gacvla-gamocvla da
gamocdilebis gaziareba. ZiriTadad, es iyo gacnobiTi xasiaTis Sexvedra, romelsac, didi
imedi gvaqvs, rom uaxloes xanebSi konkretuli Sedegi mohyveba da es Sedegi iqneba sxvadasxva sferoebSi moRvawe warmatebuli qarTvelebis aqtiu-
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veranair daxmarebas ver iRebs.
etyoba, Cven erTmaneTis Tanadgoma gviWirs da ar gvaqvs solidaroba, rac Zalian cudia.
erTi da ori kacis qvelmoqmedeba ki arafers uSvelis, Tu
es masobrivi ar gaxda. saxelmwifos ki ara, im adamianebs daexmaron, romlebic sazRvargareT lukmapuris saSovnelad
arian wasulebi. ra Tqma unda,
saministro veravis verafers
daaZalebs. adamians unda esmodes, rom Tu samSoblo uyvars,
marto imisTvis ar unda uyvardes, rom eklesia aaSenos da iq
misi saxeli da gvari waaweros
da pirovneba warmoaCinos. Tu
samSoblo uyvars, gasaWirSi
myofi TanamoZmec unda uyvardes
da Cven yvelanairad vcdilobT,
rom am mimarTulebiT raRac gavakeToT. vfiqrob, rom qarTveli biznesmenebisTvis, romlebic
ucxoeTSi moRvaweoben, misabaZ
magaliTad unda iqcnen somexi
biznesmenebi. Cemi didi survilia, iswavlon maTgan Tu rogor unda sakuTari samSoblos
da xalxis siyvaruli.
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#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
Sapitos Sou da poroSenkos `paraSa~
vaxtang xarCilava
mixeil saakaSvilis odesis
gubernatorad daniSvnis Semdeg
cxadi gaxda Tu ratom datova
`nacmoZraobis~ rigebi misma
oTxma wamyvanma wevrma.
rogorc irkveva, `nacmoZraobis~ elitas winaswar hqonda
dadasturebuli da gadamowmebuli informacia imis Sesaxeb,
rom maTi bosi odesis gubernatorad iniSneboda.
saqmeSi kargad Caxeduli piris gadmocemiT, `nacionalebis~
im jgufs, romelmac, mogvianebiT, partiis rigebi datova, kategoriulad mouTxovia saakaSvilisTvis uari eTqva am postze, radgan maTi azriT, saakaSvilis gubernatoroba, faqtobrivad, `nacmoZraobis~ srul demoralizacias, SemdgomSi ki mis
daSlas gamoiwvevda, Tumca saa-
kaSvils
Tanapartielebis
moTxovnis Sesrulebaze uari
uTqvams, ris Semdegac ganawyenebulma oTxeulma `nacmoZraobis~
karebi gamoijaxuna da wamovida.
igive wyaros informaciiT, am
oTxeuls male sxvebic Seematebian da axlo xanebSi `nacmoZraoba~, rogorc politikuri organizacia, aRar iarsebebs.
gadagdebis didostatma saakaSvilma, amjerad, sakuTari
organizacia gadaagdo da isedac
wabarbacebul partias SublSi
sakontrolo tyvia daaxala,
roca odesis gubernatorobaze
dasTanxmda.
cxadia, qarTuli politikis
saWadrako dafaze male didi gadajgufebebi da gadaadgilebebi
daiwyeba da mTavar opoziciur
partiad daniSnuli `nacmoZraobis~ gamoTavisuflebuli adgilis dasakaveblad didi brZolebi daiwyeba, Tumca es brZolebi
ra mosatania im brZolebTan Se-
saakaSvili imitom dainiSna am postze,
rom odesa ruseTs Caabaros?
darebiT, rac SeiZleba odesasTan dakavSirebiT daiwyos.
pirvel rigSi, daviwyoT imiT,
rom odesa gansakuTrebuli mentalitetis qalaqia, romelic
naklebad sarwmunoa, rom saakaSvilis xuSturebs Seeguos da
mis Wkuaze gaiaros.
meore, rusebis mier kontrolirebad dnesprispireTsa da aw
ukve ruseTis kuTvnil yirims
Sua gakvexebuli odesis ukrainis droSis qveS arsebobas, albaT, verc rusebi Seeguebian ase
advilad da yvelafers gaakeTeben imisTvis, rom odesamac yirimis da dnestrispireTis bedi gaiziaros, xolo impulsurma da
gauwonasworebelma saakaSvilma
SeiZleba is maprovocirebeli
roli Seasrulos, romelic ruseTs sababs miscems gadamwyveti
dartyma ganaxorcielos odesis
xelSi Casagdebad.
ukrainel politikosTa da
eqspertTa erTi nawili didi xania eWvis TvaliT uyurebs saakaSvilsac da mis megobar poro-
Senkosac da maT ruseTis interesebis gamtarebel agenturad
Tvlis.
saakaSvilis odesis gubernatorad daniSvnas myisve mohyva
mkacri komentarebi da sagangaSo
gancxadebebi, romelTa saerTo
Sinaarsi aseTia: _ saakaSvili
aucileblad Caabarebs odesas
ruseTs. misi am postze daniSvnis mizani swored es aris!
saakaSvilma mSObliuri saqarTvelos teritoriebis 20
procenti ufeSqaSa rusebs da
ukrainelebis odesas, ra Tqma
unda, ufro didi xalisiT da
enTuziazmiT gadascems ruseTs,
Tu manamde odeselebma ar miiRes prevenciuli zomebi.
ukrainis margalitad wodebuli internacionaluri odesa,
ara marto Tavisi unikaluri
mdebareobiT da uniWieresi inteligenciiT aris cnobili,
aramed imiTac, rom odesa kriminaluri samyaros meqad da medinad iTvleboda da iTvleba dResac.
ase rom, saakaSvils SeiZleba
Zalian gauWirdes, Tumca kanoni-
er qurdebTan da zogadad, Sav
samyarosTan urTierTobis da
Zmakacobis imxela gamocdileba
aqvs, rom ar aris gamoricxuli,
odesaSic warmatebiT daalagos
`palaJenia~.
asea Tu ise, cxadia, rom odesis gubernatorad Camolaboratebuli saakaSvilis saqarTveloSi politikur figurad dabrunebis yovelgvari Sansi amoiwura, rac imas niSnavs, rom politikuri organizacia `nacionaluri moZraobis~ rRvevas da
daSlas veraferi SeaCerebs.
sul male `nacmoZraobaSi~,
SeiZleba, mxolod erT zomaze
moWrili WiaberaSvili da irma
nadiraSvili darCnen, sxvebi ki
politikuri TavSesafrisTvis
sxvadasxva partiebs miadgebian
albaT, an bolo-bolo odesaSi
wavlen da gubernator miSas daugordebian fexebTan.
`Sapitos Sou~, `samarcxvino
maskaradi~, `politikuri Sizofrenia~, _ aseTi epiTetebiT
amkoben saakaSvilis gubernatorad daniSvnis faqts.
ukrainis ar iyos, Sou da
maskaradi arc saqarTveloSi
gvaklia.
iqauri da aqauri Souebi (magaliTad, Tinas Tavdacvis ministroba da miSas gubernatoroba)
ise imeoreben saerTo Strixebs,
rom, SeiZleba, eWvi gagiCndes _
erT eqsperimentul laboratoriaSi xom ar ibadeba aseTi araordinaruli gadawyvetilebebi
da erTi pultidan xom ar imarTeba bedi qveynebisa da xalxebisa, romlebic TavianTi ubedobiT
da ubedurebiT Zalian hgvanan
erTmaneTs?
giorgi
gamezardaSvili
3
4
saerTo gazeTi
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
xelisuflebas vTavazobT Tanabrobis
principze agebul saarCevno sistemas, Tu ara
da politikur diskomforts unda elodon
saarCevno garemos Secvlis sakiTxebze prezidentma
margvelaSvilma konferencia
gamarTa. sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT vesaubreT `demokratiuli moZraoba erTiani saqarTvelos~ erT-eerT liders baton giorgi axvledians.
_ batono giorgi, saarCevno garemos SecvlasTan
dakavSirebiT ra siaxleebs
unda velodoT, rogoria
prezidentis azri maJoritaruli sistemis gauqmebasTan
dakavSirebiT?
_ saqarTveloSi ukve oci
welia, rac arsebobs dRevandeli saarCevno sistema, erTmandatiani maJoritaruli
olqebiT, is Seiqmna 1995
wels `moqalaqeTa kavSiris~
mier xaTuna gogoriSvilisa
da mixeil maWavarianis patronaJiT. praqtikulad is
mosaxerxebeli iyo `moqalaqeTa kavSirzec~ da SemdgomSi `nacionaluri moZraobisaTvis~. samwuxaroa, rom is
momgebiani aRmoCnda
`qarTuli ocnebisTvisac~. dRes 77
deputati arCeulia
proporciuli siiT
da 73 maJoritaria.
adre iyo 75-75-ze,
2008 wlis agvistos omis mere Cven
teritoriebi kodori da axalgori
davkargeT da amitom
maJoritari
aris 73 deputati
da proporciul sias daemata is 2 adgili da gaxda 77
adgili. es aris
iseTi sistema, romelic yovelTvis xels aZlevs arsebul xelisuflebas martivad moipovis saparlamento umravlesobaSi adgilebi. SeiZleba gqondes
dabali reitingi, magram arCevnebSi adgilebis umravlesoba moipovo, praqtikulad
es `nacionalebis~ sistemaa,
romelic
xelisuflebaSi
maT arsebobas axangrZlivebda. dasavleTis rekomendaciebi am mxriv gveubneba, rom
partia unda iRebdes imden
mandats, ramden procentsac
moipovebs arCevnebSi. es gaxlavT amomrCevlis motyueba
da erTxel da samudamod unda moeRos bolo. am sistemiT Tu vixelmZRvanelebT,
bolo bolo amomrCeveli
aRar mova arCevnebze, sul
motyuebuli xom ar iqneba?
adgilobriv arCevnebze ukve vnaxeT, rom mosaxleobis didi nawili ar mivida saarCevno yuTTan. ratom? imitom, rom maT motyueba
aRar unda. amJamad Cveni
muSaoba swored im kuTxiT
mimdinareobs, rom SevcvaloT es sistema. 2012 wlamde, me piradad, `qarTuli
ocnebis~ koaliciis warmomadgenlebTan erTad vibrZodi am sistemis Sesacvlelad
da isinic Zalian aqtiurebi
iyvnen am mxriv. dRes ki, roca isini xelisuflebaSi
arian ukve, amaze aRar laparakoben, rac samwuxaroa.
imasac ki amboben zogierTebi, rom es sistema Zalian
kargia, magram 2012 wlamde
ratom iyo is cudi? baton
daviT usufaSvils xeli
aqvs mowerili im memorandumze, sadac maJoritari deputatebis gauqmebazea saubari da sworia es
xedva, Tumca yvela
ase ar fiqrobs. sainteresoa is faqtic, rom rogorc
ki `nacionalebi~
opoziciaSi aRmoCndnen, isinic ewinaaRmdegebian dRevandel saarCevno sistemas, rac Tavad
Seqmnes da iparpaSes wlebis ganmavlobaSi. saqme imaSia, rom opoziciuri mxridan yvela
kargad xedavs Tu ramdenad
usasmarTlo saarCevno sistema gvaqvs, magram `xelisuflebis `savarZlidan~ _
es ase ara Cans!
_ ramdeni xania muSaobs
Tqveni jgufi am mimarTulebiT da ra gakeTda dRemde?
_ ukve 6 Tvea muSaobs
interpartiuli jgufi am
odesa saakaSvils quCaSi
gamofenili halstuxebiT daxvda
samSobloSi saakaSvils cixe elis, amerikaSi aravin elodeba, odesam ki miuxedavad socialur qselSi dawerili
mimarTvisa-„„me Sen miyvarxar, odesa“, Zalian civad
miiRo.
poroSenkom Tavad waradgina axali gubernatori, Tumca kievis gadawyvetilebiT ukmayofilo moqalaqeebma administraciis SenobaSi SeWra
scades, magram isini policiam SeaCera. Semdeg
Senobas
policielebma
alya Semoartyes da axlos aravis uSvebdnen.
odeselebi mixeil saakaSvils satiruli aqciiT daxvdnen-qquCebSi hal-
stuxebi dakides warweriT `Äëÿ Ìèøè~, riTic
2008 wlis agvistos omi
gaaxsenes.
odeselebi gaanawyena
kievis gadawyvetilebam.
maTi TqmiT arc aravin
SekiTxviaT, undodaT Tu
ara saakaSvili gubernatorad, garda amisa, maT
ar moswonT politikosis
odiozuri warsuli. mas
Semdeg, rac dadasturda
saakaSvilis gubernatorad daniSvna, odeselebi
internetSic da quCebSic
leonid utiosovis cnobil simReras mRerian,
saitebze ki weren:- `Òû
îäåññèò, Ìèøêà?~ (Sen
odesidan xar, miSka?)
TB24.ge
sakiTxebze, Cven SevimuSaveT
varianti, romelic saukeTesoa Cvens SemTxvevaSi da mas hqvia samxareo
proporciuli
sistema, is gaxlavT saerTaSorisod
aRiarebuli
standarti da sistema, romlisTvisac mTeli msoflio
rekomendacias gviwevs da is
saukeTesoa Cveni qveynisTvis.
ucxoeTSi mas regionalur
hqvia, magram vinaidan CvenTan
samxareo mowyobis sistema
arsebobs, aq erqmeva samxareo proporciuli sistema
_ SinaarsiT erTi da igivea.
am sistemiT deputatTa naxevars avirCevT proporciuli
mxars gviWers, amitom gvindoda misi CarTva am saqmeSi,
rom politikurad gaaqtiurdes es Tema da sanam kidev
droa momaval arCevnebamde,
movaxerxoT sistemis Secvla. samwuxarod, xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi am
sakiTxe ar gvelaparakebian,
mxolod kaxa oqriaSvilma,
dmanisis maJoritarma deputatma gamoTqva azri amis
Sesaxeb, sadac ganmarta, rom
mas moswons maJoritari deputatoba da mxars ar uWers
Cvens iniciativas. imas, rasac Cven vTavazobT xelisuflebas, sWirdeba sakonstitucio cvlileba, romel-
sistemiT, xolo meore naxevars samxareo siebiT, anu
calke Telavi, an gurjaani
an WiaTura ki ar airCevs
calke deputats, aramed
mTel mxares eyoleba erTi
deputati, mosaxleobis raodenobis mixedviT. axlandeli sistemiT SeiZleba xuTasma kacma airCios 1 deputati da meore raionSi sami
aTas xuTasmac erTi _ es Seusabamobaa da antikonstituciuria. yvela deputati
arCeuli unda iyos Tanabari amomrCevelTa
xmis odenobiT _ es maTi konstituciuri uflebaa. partiebis mxrivac
ase iqneba, vinc xmebis ramden procents moipovebs, imden deputats Seiyvans parlamentSi, amomrCevelTa raodenobis mixedviT gadanawildeba mandatebi da es iqneba Tanabroba. am ideis garSemo sruliad SevTanxmdiT
mTeli opoziciuri speqtri,
saparlamentoc da arasaparlamentoc da iqneba xmebi
75-75-ze sruli TanabrobiT.
am ideas mxars uWeren arasamTavrobo organizaciebic,
aseve eqspertebi.
baton margvelaSvils sakanonmdeblo
iniciativis
ufleba ara aqvs, magram am
ideas savsebiT eTanxmeba da
sac ori sesiis parlamenti
sWirdeba, sagazafxulo da
saSemodgomo amitom dRes
xelisufleba unda gamovides
da Tqvs is, Tu ratom surdaT 2012 wlamde saarCevno
garemos Secvla da ratom
ar surT axla? kaxa oqriaSvili aris yofili `nacionali~, romelic axla `ocnebaSi~ gadabargda, cxadia, mas
ar endomeba maJoritarobis
gauqmeba, amitom misma komentarma mxolod Rimili gamoiwvia damswre sazogadoebaSi
da meti araferi, am sakiTxebSi mas Sesabamisi codna arc gaaCnia.
am konferenciis mTavari
arsi iyo is, rom SevimuSaveT Sesabamisi sakonstitucio cvlilebebis paketi, 7575-ze da warvadgenT parlamentSi. am etapze Zalian seriozuli politikuri berketi gvaqvs imisTvis, rom es
saqme bolome miviyvanoT da
Tanabrobis principze agebul sistemas daTanxmdes.
Tu amas ar gaakeTeben, seriozul politikur diskomforts SevuqmniT _ jerjerobiT, gvainteresebs Sexvedrebi, molaparakebebi da
SeTanxmeba.
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gvesaubreba eqsperti
kavkasiis sakiTxebSi
mamuka areSiZe:
_ batono mamuka, `nacionalur
moZraobaSi~ arsebuli ganxeTqileba, kvlav aqtualuria. rogor
fiqrobT, ramdenad waadgeba es
procesi qarTul politikas ra
svlebia mosalodneli qarTul
politikur saWadrako dafaze?
_ daviwyoT imiT, rom axla,
yvela partia Tu politikosi arCevnebisTvis emzadeba. arCevnebi,
rogorc Cans, an seriozuli jaxis fonze an erTi politikuri
Zalis didi upiratesobiTa da yovelgvari konkurenciis gareSe Catardeba. is, rac `nacmoZraobaSi~
moxda, zustad, am formatSi SegviZlia ganvixiloT.
`nacmoZraobaSi~ ganawyenebuli
arian procesebiT, romlebic maT
partiasTan dakavSirebiT mimdinareobs. ramodenime adamiani sapatimroSia, partia ki maTi bediT
arc interesdeba. yvelaze mTavari
isaa, rom miSa saakaSvilma ukrainaSi axali partiis Camoyalibeba
daiwyo Tavisi mTeli atributiT
da `nacionaluri moZraoba~ aRar
ainteresebs, rac maTTvis seriozuli dartymaa. sxvaTa Soris, mixeil saakaSvilma es dRes garkveulwilad, kidec daadastura _
ukrainis moqalaqeoba miiRo da
praqtikulad, uari Tqva, uaxloes
momavalSi, saqarTveloSi politikur aqtiurobaze. ase, rom situacia Zalian airia. magram, rogorc Cans, viRac sxvam gadawyvita, rom am saqmeSi xeli moiTbos.
aSkaraa, `nacionaluri moZraoba~
marTlac daiyofa. viciT, rom arsebobs `iverielTa~ jgufi, romlis garSemoc, garkveuli Zala,
aucileblad Seikribeba. garda
amisa, nu daviviwyebT, rom `nacionalur moZraobaSi~ arsebobs adamiani, romelic yvelaze ufro
Wkviania, vgulisxmob, bokerias.
igi aucileblad moindomebs an
`nacionaluri moZraoba~ ganaaxlos an axali partia Seqmnas. miuxedavad imisa, rom bokeria sazogadoebaSi popularuli araa, igi
erTaderTi politikosia vinc amas
SesaniSnavad acnobierebs da amitom kuluarebidan moqmedebs. ar
gamovricxav, rom ganxeTqileba nacebSi, garkveulwilad, sxva politikuri Zalis zewoliT, aqtiurobiTac gaRrmavda. ar mjera,
rom es oTxeuli partiidan finanasuri dainteresebis gareSe wavida. partiidan wasvlis motivi, razec isini saubroben, sisulelea.
vxedev, rom finansuri daintereseba aris da iqneba. unda iTqvas,
rom ganxeTqilebis es formati viRacam sakmaod kargad moifiqra
imitom, rom erTdroulad ori
kurdReli mokla: erTi is, rom
partiis aRmasrulebeli mdivani
oTxeulidan erT-erTi,
SeiZleba,
specialurad gadayolili piria
imisTvis, rom `nacionalebTan~ kuluaruli
kontaqti ar daikargos. amas ar gamovricxav. `nacionalebis~
finansebs, isini, ver
miiReben imitom, rom,
am kuTxiT, TviTon `nacionalur moZraobasac~ uWirs. magram arseboben sxva Zalebi,
ramdenjerme gaiJRera
oqriaSvilis da CoCelis gvarebma, romlebic sakmaod SeZlebuli adamianebi arian.
amas didi filosofia. adamianebs,
amaSic ki, imedi gaucrues. aq,
elementarulad, laparakia imaze,
rom xalxs warTmeuli mamqanebi
mainc daubrunon. amis precendentis Seqmnac ki ar surT. imitom
ki ara rom ar undaT, aramed ezarebaT, amas xom dro, energia,
xalxis siyvaruli sWirdeba.
_ am qaosis, politikuri duRilis fonze `respublikuri partiis~ didi aRzeveba xdeba. ras
niSnavs partiis wevrebis xelovnuri dawinaurebebi da ras moutans es qveyanas?
_ `respublikelebi~ miuxedavad Tavisi mcirericxovnebisa, saqarTvelos uaxles istorias Tu
gavixsenebT, yovelTvis wina plan-
mamuka areSiZe:
vinme sxvas SeuerTdes. es erTaderT SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba moxdes _ Tu maTi `megobrebi~, dasavleTis mxridan, sakiTxs ase dasvamen. `qarTuli ocnebis~ qudqveS
`respublikelebi~ uaRresad komfortulad arian, ori lideri,
col-qmari sakvanZo figurebia
arian _ parlamentis Tavmjdomare
da Tavdacvis ministri, meti raRa
unda moiTxovon? Tu Zalian moindomes, gamoricxuli araa, maT
premieris postic miiRon. aq imaze araa saubari, es kargia Tu cudi, imas vambob, rasac vimsaxurebT. viRebT imas, rasac vimsaxurebT. `qarTuli ocnebis~ ZiriTadi birTvis xelmZRvanelobam ver
imuSava ise, rom Sedegi hqonodaT.
ori weli gaacdines. ver vityvi
rom gasuli wlis dekembridan
ivaniSvilis da RaribaSvilis
urTierToba imdenad Rrmaa,
rom qarTul presas, romlis
didi nawili yviTelia, ar aqvs imis
Sno, maT Soris mtroba gaaRvivos
gadadga, rac saSineli dartymaa;
meorec _ mixeil saakaSvilis piradi megobari _ goga xaCiZe partiidan gavida. es seriozuli Temaa. principSi, situacia romelic
aimRvra, arCevnebamde aRar dalagdeba _ Seiqmneba axali politikuri Zalebi, aseve, iqneba mcdeloba,
rom didi prodasavluri gaerTianeba da amis paralelurad, meore
tradicionalisturi orientaciis
gaerTianeba Seiqmnas, anu qarTul
faseulobebze dayrdnobiT, romelic ruseTis mimarT ufro rbili
iqneba. am wlis ganmavlobaSi aseTi tipis konfiguraciebis Seqmnisa da daSlis da Tavidan agebis
momswreni gavxdebiT da saerTod,
politikuri mozaikis gadalagebagadmolagebis. ubedureba isaa, rom
politikur mozaikas da politikanobas, samwuxarod, qarTvelebi
miCveulni arian, magram mTavari
saqmis keTebas ver uTmoben imden
dros, ramdensac sakuTar Tavs politikaSi SenarCunebisTvis.
_ finansuri daintereseba axseneT. saubroben, rom am oTxeuls
isev `nacmoZraoba~ daafinansebs.
Tqven, rogor fiqrobT, saidan modis finansuri daintereseba?
_ maT, `nacionalebi~ ar daexmarebian. aq, TamaSis elementebia,
rac ase warmomidgenia _
am
Tumca, mainc mgonia, rom mTavrobis zogierTi warmomadgenlis gareSe, es ambavi ar gamovidoda. miveCvieT, rom xan
trabzonSi, xan kievSi, xan kidev sadRac dRevandeli xelisuflebisa da opoziciis warmomadgenlebi erTmaneTs xvdebian da qarTveli xalxis
zurgs ukan garkveul molaparakebebs awarmoeben, rac absoluturad miuRebelia. am viTarebaSi, saidan modis finansebi, amis Tqma, Znelia. ici
ra, es Cveulebrivma adamianma
arc unda gaigos imitom, rom igi
daiRala. praqtikulad, gaCnda nihilizmi ara dasavleTis, ara ruseTis, aramed sakuTari politikuri elitis, politikis mimarT.
qarTveli xalxi Tavisi genetikis,
potenciis TvalsazrisiT, niWieria. miuxedavad imisa, fiqrobs Tu
ara am Temaze, mainc male xvdeba
yvelafers. qarTveli politikosebi angariSs ar uweven imas, rom
saqme sakmaod gonier sazogadoebasTan aqvT.
_ am politikur paseansSi sad
aris `qarTuli ocneba~?
_ ar vici. ufro zustad,
`qarTuli ocneba~ sadRac aq aris,
saqarTveloSi, magram rogorc
partia ver Camoyalibda.
partia romelsac parlamentSi da sakrebuloebSi sxvadasxva doneze mxolod deputacia hyavs da ar aqvs
partiuli rgolebi, partia
araa. `nacmoZraobas~ myari
eleqtorati mainc hyavda da
aqtivistebi raionebSi, romelTa didi nawili SeinarCunes. `qarTulma ocnebam~
ki praqtikulad, Tavisi aqtivistebis 60-70% dakarga
imitom, rom es xalxi uyuradRebod miatova. meorec,
ar Sesrulda dapirebebi, samarTlianobis aRdgena Tu
sxva ram. umartivesia adamians sakuTari qoneba daubruno miTumetes Tu is ekonomikis saministros an sxva
uwyebis balanszea, rad unda
ze iyvnen. zviad gamsaxurdias wasvlis Semdeg, pirveli samxedro
sabWo rom Seiqmna, sias gadavxede,
iq `respublikuri partiis~ yvela
lideria warmodgenili, maT Soris, meorexarisxovani liderebic
ki. yovelTvis ase iyo. `respublikur partias~ aqvs Tviseba, yovelTvis movlenebis epicentrSi iyos
_ an opoziciuri an saxelisuflebo mdgomareobiT. ra gamodis?
_ partias aqvs resursi, romelsac sworad iyenebs. sxva saqmea is,
rom visac `respublikuri partia~ ar moswons, mis winaaRmdeg,
brZolas ar awarmoebs. marto ginebiT saqme ar keTdeba. maSin Sen
unda gaakeTo ukeTesad is saqme,
vidre `respublikelebi~ akeTeben.
marto feis-buqze da sxva socialur qselebSi Tu iginebi, amiT
`respublikelebs~ erTi bewvic ar
CamouvardebaT. Tu maTi ideologia ar mogwons, sad aris kontrideologia? ase, rom taqtikuri
TvalsazrisiT, `respublikuri
partia~, yovelTvis reitingulia.
modis arCevnebi. Tu ggoniaT rom
es partia arCevnebSi monawileobas marto miiRebs, Zalian scdebiT. ase arasdros moqceula da
arc axla moiqceva ase. es, `respublikuri partiis~ koziria anu,
eqstremalur situaciaSi mobilizeba da yovelTvis saWiro adgilas yofna.
_ 2016 wlis arCevnebSi visTan erTad miiRebs monawileobas?
_ isev `qarTul ocnebasTan~
erTad. eWvi mepareba, gaiqces da
dRemde saqme ar gakeTebula, piriqiT, am eqvs TveSi Zalian bevri
ram gakeTda. magram ori weli ras
akeTebdnen, amaze pasuxi, veravin
gamca. vTvli, rom eqvs TveSi imaze meti gaakeTes, vidre mTeli
ori wlis manZilze. magram aris
saqmeebi, rasac ar akeTeben. magaliTad, CineTis gansakuTrebuli
dainteresebis gamo unikaluri
Sansi mogveca, saqarTvelos industrializacia movaxdinoT. CineTi saqarTveloze ki ar giJdeba,
aramed igi sWirdeba rogorc samxreT-kavkasia _ seriozuli saxmeleTo xidi evropasTan. anu, sarkinigzo xidi, raTa ruseTs seriozuli konkurencia gauwios.
amisTvis, saqarTvelos saocrad
SeRavaTian proeqtebs sTavazobs,
Tan icis saqarTvelos sainJinro
potenciali. gagecinebaT, magram
Cven, jer kidev gvyavs iseTi adamianebi, romelTac SeuZliaT industriuli qveyana Seqmnan. CineTi
arc Tavis inJiners, arc Tavis muSaxels ar gvTavazobs, aramed
mxolod fuls da imas, rom saqarTvelo gadaiqces qveynad, romelic regionSi, samxreT-kavkasiaSi
industriuli produqciis gayidvas SeZlebs. magram qarTveli Cinovnikebis biurokratiuli da gaugebari pasiurobis gamo, weliwadze metia, es proeqtebi imtvereba. Tu es proeqtebi ar Sedga,
CineTi saqarTveloze xels Caiqnevs da azerbaijanidan pirdapir
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Sinagan saqmeTa saministros
savaraudo gayofasa da mTavari
prokuroris arCeviTobasTan dakavSirebiT gvesaubrebian cnobili uflebadamcveli, advokati
giorgi TevzaZe da policiis vice-ppolkovniki daviT
gagniZe.
giorgi TevzaZe: `Sinagan
saqmeTa saministros aucileblad unda gamoeyos uSiSroebis
samsaxuri da calke uwyebad Ca-
giorgi TevzaZe
moyalibdes, radgan erTiani birTvi orive struqturisTvis xelisSemSlelia da ufro demokratiulic iqneba maTi gancalkeveba. marTalia, orive struqtura saxelmwifo interesebs emsaxureba, magram maT gansxvavebuli datvirTva da funqcia aqvT.
Cemi azriT, Sss-s gamoZiebis
samsaxuric unda gamoeyos, es
samsaxuri arc prokuraturas,
finansTa saministrosa da uSiSroebis saministros unda hqondes, umjobesia Tu gamoZieba
calke struqturad Camoyalibdeba da parlaments daeqvemdebareba. gamarTlebulad ar mimaCnia, roca erTi uwyeba iWers da
gamoZiebasac TviTon axorcielebs, radgan aq saxezea interesTa konfliqti da sazogadoebaSic naklebadaa ndobis faqtori. prokuraturas mxolod
zedamxedvelis funqcia unda
hqondes, rac isedacaa misi ZiriTadi valdebuleba, oRond am
zedamxedvelobas
formaluri
xasiaTi ar unda hqondes. Sss-s
funqciaSi ki marTlwesrigis
dacva, danaSaulis aRkveTa, operatiuli saqmianoba unda darCes. sagamoZiebo samsaxuri SeiZleba departamentad Camoyalibdes, oRond gafarToebuli, saministros uflebebiT, miT umetes, rom Cven amis praqtika
gvaqvs. uSiSroebis saministroSi SeiZleba darCes garkveuli
danayofebi, radgan arsebobs saidumlo gamoZiebis etapebi, romelic sagamoZiebo uwyebasTan
erTad unda ganaxorcielon.
sxvaTa Soris, sasjelaRsrulebis sistemasac aqvs Tavisi sagamoZiebo samsaxuri, romelic am
sistemis SigniT Cadenil danaSaulobebs iZiebs, magram mainc mimaCnia, rom umjobesia am SemTxvevaSic damoukidebelma organom
Seiswavlos da gamoiZios.
rac Seexeba mTavari prokuroris arCeviTobas, me Tu
mkiTxavT, marto prokurorebi
ki ara, mosamarTleebi da policiis ufrosebic arCeviTi unda
iyos, magram am etapze ganuxorcieleblad mimaCnia. kanonproeqtis mixedviT, mTavari prokuroris daniSvna saprokuroro sabWos meSveobiT unda ganxorcieldes, ufleba-movaleoba am
sabWoze gadanawildeba. am sab-
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Wos Tavmjdomare iusticiis ministri iqneba, sabWos SemadgenlobaSi iqneba ori parlamentari, romlebsac aseve airCeven. iq
aseve Sevlen saganmanaTleblo
dawesebulebebisa da sazogadoebrivi organizaciebis (arasamTavrobo seqtori) warmodgenili kandidatebi, aseve ori wevri, romlebic ar ewevian saadvokato saqmianobas. bunebrivad
Cndeba kiTxvebi, saprokuroro
sabWos mier arCeuli mTavari
prokurori
damokidebuli
xom ar iqneba xsenebul sabWoze? vin airCevs wevr-parlamentarebs, isev umravlesoba xom? ra principiT moxdeba arasamTavrobo seqtoris
warmomadgenelTa arCeva, eWvi
maqvs, rom aqac igive ganmeordeba, rac muSajgufTan dakavSirebiT moxda, is kontingenti, romlebic wlebia realurad muSaobs uflebadacviT
sferoSi, xsenebul jgufSi
ar Seiyvanes, miuxedavad imisa, rom Sesabamisi gancxadebebi maTi mxridanac gakeTda.
etyoba, is xalxi amoarCies,
vinc ideurad ufro axlos
dgas xelisuflebasTan. Tu
mTavari prokuroris arCeviTobaze midga saqme, vfiqrob, ufro
upriani iqneba, rom igi saprokuroro sabWom ki ar daniSnos,
saqarTvelos prezidentma wa-
Txovo saqme bolomde miiyvaneo,
roca mas amisi kvalifikacia ar
aqvs, pirvel rigSi, sakadro politikis gajansaRebaze unda
ifiqron. prokuraturaSi yvela
nacionalebis momxreebi da yaCaRebi ki ar arian, magram gamomZiebeli saqmeze metad imaze fiqrobs, krediti rogor gadaixados, reformis Semdeg axali
ufrosi rom mova, vaiTu, ar movewonoo, am dros ki am axalma
xelmZRvanelma SeiZleba, gamoZiebis anabana ar icodes. analogiuri arakompetenturobis magaliTia Tavdacvis saministro. ra
kriteriumiT daniSnes Tina xidaSeli am uwyebis pirvel pirad? gasagebia, rom ministri
politikuri Tanamdebobaa
da xidaSelic politikuri figuraa, magram mainc
sircxvilad mimaCnia misi
am Tanamdebobaze daniSvna.
dasavleTis qveynebs vetolebiT da genderul balanss vicavT? ra gvegendereba, roca qveyana Tavze gveqceva. Tamar mefis
magaliTs Tu iSvelieben,
is ratom aviwydebaT, rom
mas awyobili qveyana daxvda.
Cemi azriT, Sss aucileblad unda gaiyos. nacionalebma Tavis droze
policia da uSiSroebis
sfero `gadaxuruli~ unda hqondes. yvelaze mTavari dRes savaluto krizisia, romelmac amazrzeni saxe miiRo, aqedan gamomdinare, uSiSroebis samsaxurs
Seswavlili unda hyavdes yvela
banki, rogorc erovnuli banki,
ise komerciuli bankebi, maTi
TiToeuli TanamSromeli, yvela
safinanso operacia (fulis gasvla), ratom ar sruldeba
strategiuli mniSvnelobis ekonomikuri winadadebebi. ase rom,
xsenebul samsaxurs namdvilad
ar aqvs imis dro, rom qveyanaSi
mzveravebsa da jaSuSebs sdios,
radgan maT garda mravlad
gvyavs `sabotaJnikebi~, diversantebi, moRalateebi. man ekonomi-
miscemen, ise dayofen operaciebs, rom axalgazrdebi verc ki
mixvdnen ra mizniT agroveben informacias. am 50 kacis Segroveba namdvilad ar gagviWirdeba.
ase gagrZeleba aRar SeiZleba,
mTeli saqarTvelo maTxovrad
aris gadaqceuli, am dros ki mavanT miliardebi aqvT qveynidan
gatanili. Sss-Si, mgoni, kidev
funqcionirebs ekonomikuri danaSaulis winaaRmdeg brZolis
samsaxuri, magram dRes iseTi eqstremaluri viTarebaa Seqmnili,
rom ar yofnis. garda amisa, xsenebuli samsaxuris zemoT dganan
iseTi pirebi, Ss ministrs ar
vgulisxmob, romelTa ndoba ar
SeiZleba, iq iseTi situaciaa,
saqarTvelos prokuratura
ganaxlebuli uSiSroebis
sabWo, saqarTvelos
prezidents ki ara, premierministrs unda daeqvemdebaros
radginos misi kandidatura par- saministro imitom gaaerTianes,
lamentSi dasamtkiceblad. mogv- rom msoflio narkomafias erT
wons es Tu ara, giorgi margve- kacTan hqonoda saqme. saqarTvelaSvili xalxis arCeul prezi- los teritoriaze marto nardentad iTvleba da demokratiu- kotikebis ki ara iaraRis tranlic iqneba Tu mTavar proku- zitic xdeboda da erT kacs unrors is waradgens. prezidentis da gaewia kurireba am `bizneseuflebebi mkveTrad SeuzRudes bisTvis~, sazRvris dacvis deda es erTgvari kompensacia iq- partamentic am mizniT miuerTes
neba. uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tav- Sss-s, mxolod es iyo realuri
mjdomaris wardgenasTan dakav- mizezi. kontrdazverva Zalze
SirebiT giorgi margvelaSvilma Zalze swori nabiji
gadadga da didi imedi maqvs,
rom mTavar prokurorsac
sworad SearCevs~.
Sinagan saqmeTa saministros dayofasa da gamoZiebis
organos calke struqturad
Camoyalibebas profesionali
samarTaldamcavi daviT gagniZec eTanxmeba, Tumca prokuraturis reforma, kerZod ki
mTavari prokuroris arCeviToba masSi seriozul eWvebs
iwvevs.
daviT gagniZe: `ra
mniSvneloba aqvs prokurors
airCeven Tu ara, an vis daniSnaven, mTavaria, keTili neba iyos. 90-ian wlebSi, rodaviT gagniZe
ca `mxedrioni~ da sxva SeiaraRebuli dajgufebebi avlag- specifiuri samsaxuria, igi sameT, policiis mTeli Semadgen- qarTvelos teritoriaze Semoloba Tavisi xelmZRvanelebianad sul da moqmed jaSuSebs ebrZigive viyaviT. erT RameSi davas- vis da akavebs, mimaCnia, rom konruleT yvelaferi, radgan amisi trdazverva uSiSroebis samsakeTili neba arsebobda. am are- xuris daqvemdebarebidanac unda
ul qveyanaSi, namdvilad ar aris gavides da es ukanaskneli unreformebis dro. prokuraturis da interesdebodes qveynis ekogamomZiebels rogor unda mos- nomikiT, ZiriTadi strategiuli
kuri sfero unda akontrolos.
bankebi karteluri garigebiT
rom adgenen valutis kurss, sad
aris am dros uSiSroebis samsaxuri? ramdeni kargi proeqti
Cavarda, ratom ar dgeba im xalxis pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi,
romlebic qveyanas Rupaven. savaluto fondidan Tu msoflio
bankidan miTiTeba rom modis,
risi Sesrulebis safuZvelze
mogvcemen kredits, vinme
swavlobs maT winadadebas? SevardnaZis mmarTvelobis periodidan moyolebuli 50-55 miliardi
dolaria saqarTvelodan
gatanili. Tu es yvelaferi simarTlea, maSin SevqmnaT raime ekonomikuri
samsaxuri, romelic aseve
calke uwyeba iqneba gazrdili funqciebiT, pirdapiri premier-ministrs
daeqvemdebareba da misi
kurirebiT imuSavebs. mivceT am samsaxurs 50-kaciani Stati, aucilebeli
ar aris yvela policieli iyos, moviwvioT profesionali ekonomistebi,
romlebic Tavis varaudsa
da analizs dadeben. TanamSromelTaTvis asakobrivi cenzi ar
unda arsebobdes, magram amave
dros iyos axalgazrdebisgan
dakompleqtebuli
mobiluri
jgufi, romlebsac gamocdili
da kvalificiuri TanamSromlebi
(igive uSiSroebis samsaxuridan
da policiidan) mimarTulebas
rom SeiZleba informaciam gaJonos. me Tu mkiTxavT, dRes iseTi viTarebaa, imdeni miTvisebuli Tanxebia amosaRebi, rom ekonomikuri danaSaulis winaaRmdeg
brZolis samsaxurebi saerTod
unda gavides yvela uwyebidan da
calke struqturad Camoyalibdes, 3-4 wlis Semdeg, roca
mdgomareoba metnaklebad gamoswordeba, SeiZleba saerTod
aRar dagvWirdes es samsaxuri.
marTvis xelovnebis arsi imaSia,
rom rac SeiZleba swrafad unda mivides pirveli piris gankarguleba bolo rgolamde, e.i.
Sua struqturebi unda Semcirdes, rom operatiuli, ZviradRirebuli dro ar daikargos. Ss
ministrs uamravi sxva problemac aqvs, yvelafers ver gawvdeba, amitom jobia ekonomikuri
samsaxurs pirdapir premier-ministrTan hqondes urTierToba,
miT umetes, rom batoni irakli,
ramdenadac vici, profesiiT
ekonomistia da ar gauWirdeba
viTarebaSi garkveva. prokuraturaSi calke jgufi unda gamoiyos, romelic amgvar saqmeebs
zedamxedvelobas gauwevs. adre
iyo prokuraturaSi aseTi samsaxuri, magram xom xedavT, isev
reformas apireben da kacma ar
icis, momavalSi ra moxdeba~.
- batono daviT, mTavari
prokuroris arCeviTobasa da
reformasTan dakavSirebiT seriozuli eWvebi gaqvT. iqneb dag-
saerTo gazeTi
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vikonkretoT, ram gamoiwvia Tqveni undobloba?
- mTavar prokuraturaSi Seqmnes
specialuri departamenti, romelsac
nacionalebis 9-wliani mmarTvelobisas
dazaralebulTa saqmeebi unda gamoeZiebina, TiTqos muSaobac daiwyes, magram,
sinamdvileSi, araferi gaukeTebiaT, erTi kaci mainc daakmayofiles? mogexsenebaT, 2007 wels damiTxoves Sss-dan,
TiTqos agentze gamovwere fuli da miviTvise. es Tanxa Cemma xelmZRvanelma
gamomawerina da TviTon aiRo, Tumca
misTvis pasuxi aravis mouTxovia. nacionalebis mmarTvelobisas prokuraturas mivmarTe, rom es saqme gamoeZiebinaT maTi qvemdebare iyo, radgan policielebs gvexeboda. Cemi werili im gamomZiebels gadaugzavnes, romelmac
mxolod erTxel damibara, magram xelmZRvanelobam gaafrTxila Tavi daanebeo
da aRar damelaparaka, gaiqca, faqtobrivad, ar davukiTxivar. arc xelisuflebis Secvlis Semdeg momxdara raime
sasikeTo Zvra, umZimesi kategoriis damnaSaveebi Seiwyales, Tu gaamarTles, gamagebinon, ra davaSave iseTi, rom `reabilitacia~ ar mexeba. Zalian kargad
ician, vinc miiTvisa is fuli, magram
dRemde aravin sTxovs pasuxs. xelisufleba rom Seicvala, TviTon damibares
Sss-Si (ministris maSindelma moadgilem aleko tabataZem), TiTqos sistemaSi unda davebrunebine, testireba gaviare, normativebic Cavabare, magram mere
miTxres, moicadeo da dRemde vicdi. Zalian minda, es yvelaferi CaweroT, gamoZiebasTan viTanamSromle, vuTxari,
rom is Tanxa ar amiRia, isic vuTxari,
vin aiRo da sad wavida, magram oficialur Cvenebas ar marTmeven, ician, iq
bevr sxva raRacas vityvi, rac, rogorc
Cans, ar awyobT. marto Cemze ar aris
saubari, uamravi adamiania igive mdgomareobaSi. axla, roca xsenebulma specdepartamentma saqmeebis Seswavla daiwyo, prokuraturis reforma wamoiwyes, sinamdvileSi dros welaven, mere
ityvian ra dros xarvezebis gasworebaa,
arCevnebia kars momdgario.
mTavari prokurori Turme saprokuroro sabWom unda airCios, sadac wev-
vebi yovelTvis vambobdiT, rom ar SeiZleba gamoZieba awarmoos im uwyebam,
romelmac Caatara operatiuli samuSao.
TviTon rom daiWira da TviTon iZiebs,
swored es aris komunisturi gadmonaSTi. roca erTi adamiani xelmZRvanelobs
gamoZiebasac da operatiul samsaxursac, maSin advilad xdeba, ase vTqvaT,
gatareba, e.w. `patasovka~. gamoZieba
calke uwyeba rom iyos, aseTi ram naklebad SesaZlebelia, konkurenciis pirobebSi ufro efeqturi Sedegi dgeba,
amas sakuTari gamocdilebidan geubnebiT. prokuraturasTan erTad romel
saqmeebzec gvimuSavia operatiul samsaxurs, yovelTvis ufro srulyofili
iyo da arc gamoZieba Wianurdeboda. gamoZieba yvela uwyebidan unda gavides
da calke struqturad Camoyalibdes,
Tu gvinda, rom realur Sedegs mivaRwioT. am uwyebis xelmZRvanelad ki koba narCemaSvilze ukeTesi kandidatura
namdvilad ar meguleba. minda erT mniSvnelovan sakiTxzec gavamaxvilo yuradReba,
organizebuli danaSaulis
winaaRmdeg brZolis samsaxuri, mgoni,
isev aris Sss-Si, magram es samsaxuri
unda gafarTovdes. 1995 wels, roca
qveyanas sWirdeboda, es samsaxuri departamentis saxiT funqcionirebda, kaxa TargamaZe iyo misi xelmZRvaneli, mere kriminogenuri viTareba rom dastabilurda, sammarTvelod gadakeTda. axla isev departamentis funqcia unda
mieniWos, kurireba unda gauwios qveda
rgolebs, aiZulos rom imuSaon. Cemi
informaciiT, marto mitingebis dros
(2007-2012 wlebi) 21 Tu 22 adamiania
dakarguli, sad aris es xalxi, vinme
muSaobs am saqmeze, iqneb sulac cocxlebi arian. am informaciis sizusteSi
eWvi ar mepareba, radgan xelisuflebis
Secvlis Semdeg Sss-Si muSaoba rom unda damewyo, maSin miTxres, am saqmeebze
unda imuSaoo. merwmuneT, bolomde miviyvandi am saqmeebs, axlac SeiZleba
maTze muSaoba da Sedegis dadeba. me ar
viziareb im pozicias, rom sagamoZiebo
organo parlaments daeqvemdebaros, Tu
is gvinda, rom araferi gakeTdes, maSin
gadavceT parlaments, roca bevri adamiania makontrolebeli, maSin, rogorc
wesi araferi keTdeba. daiyos Sss, Seiqmnas, rogorc giTxariT, axali samsaxurebic, magram isini unda daeqvemdeba-
Sss saministro
rebad parlamentarebi, arasamTavrobo
organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi, faqtobrivad nacionalebis satelitebi iqnebian. davarqvaT barem saqarTvelos
arasamTavroboTa respublika, yvelafers mainc egeni wyveten. an is parlamentarebi vin iqnebian, isev `qarTuli
ocneba~ da nacebi? Tu demokratiulobaze aqvT pretenzia, maSin am sabWoSi
arasaparlamento opoziciis is warmomadgenlebi Seiyvanon, romlebmac arCevnebSi sxvebze meti xmebi daagroves. vimeoreb, mTavari reforma ki ara, politikuri nebaa, nu SezRudaven prokuraturas, samarTaldamcav struqturebs
da isini TviTon moagvareben problemas,
rogorc es 90-ian wlebSi moxda. mimaCnia, rom Sss-s unda gamoeyos gamoZiebis
samsaxuri, magram operatiuli Semadgenloba dautovon, romelic mZime kategoriis danaSaulobebze imuSavebs, maT Soris, ra Tqma unda, nacreJimis dros
momxdarzec. gamocdili samarTaldamca-
ros uSiSroebis sabWos, magram ara
iseTs, romelic dRes gvaqvs. unda Seiqmnas axali uSiSroebis sabWo, romelic
yvela Zalovan (operatiul) Tu sagamoZiebo struqturas gauwevs kurirebas
da kontrols, magram mis xelmZRvanelad araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar unda dainiSnos irina imerliSvili. es qalbatoni ki aris generali, aravis vayeneb
Seuracxyofas, magram me ar vici, man ra
damsaxurebisTvis miiRo es wodeba. saakaSvilis reJimis dros zogierTebi lamis feldmarSlebic xdebodnen, magram
maTi gakeTebuli saqme aravis unaxavs.
rac yvelaze mTavaria, ganaxlebuli
uSiSroebis sabWo, yvela SemTxvevaSi,
saqarTvelos prezidents ki ara, premier-ministrs unda daeqvemdebaros. qveynis interesebidan gamomdinare, es yvelaze optimaluri variantia.
manana suxiSvili
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ivaniSvilis da RaribaSvilis
urTierToba imdenad Rrmaa,
rom qarTul presas, romlis
didi nawili yviTelia, ar aqvs imis
Sno, maT Soris mtroba gaaRvivos
gava iranSi. am dros Cveni politikosebi
sxva ramiT arian dakavebulni _ vinmem ar
ajobos da Tanamdebobriv skamze ufro win
ar waiwios. Cven, unikalur mdgomareobaSi
vcxovrobT _ unikaluri Cinovnikuri kasta
Seiqmna, romlis didi nawili msoflio Cinovnikur elitaSi erTgvari nou-haua. vgulisxmob Semdegs: qarTveli Cinovnikebi ar iReben qrTams da arafers
akeTeben, sxedan kabinetebSi iReben
maRal xelfass, manqanas, telefons, premiebs, magram arafers ar
akeTeben da Tan arc iparaven, es
unikaluria. aseTi ram msoflioSi ar arsebobs _ an unda iparavde,
an saqmes unda akeTebde, an unda
saqmes akeTebde da Tan iparavde, an
Tavi mainc moikali kabinetSi, rom
xalxma gaigos rom xar.
_ batono mamuka, vrceldeba informacia
imis Sesaxebac, rom axal politikur Zalas
prezidenti margvelaSvili uxelmZRvanelebs.
_ eWvi mepareba. margvelaSvilma, SeiZleba, yvelasTan iTanamSromlos, magram marTali giTxraT momaval arCevnebSi mas rogorc politikuri organizaciis xelmZRvanels, ver vxedav. am etapze, ar mgonia margvelaSvili romelime politikuri Zalis
xelmZRvanelad, Riad gamoCndes. TviTonac
ar aqvs iseTi mdgomareoba, rom am saqmeSi
gamodges. mis biografiaSi Zalian cudi roli iTamaSa sasaxlesTan dakavSirebulma ambavma _ xalxs ar esmis ratom unda Tqvas
adamianma, erTxel, iq fexis Semdgmeli ar
varo da mere, Sevides da iqedan aRar gamovides. sxva sakiTxia, rom amdeni Widaoba,
samarcxvinoa. es jiutoba damRlelia. xalxi xedavs rom uamravi problemaa da am
dros mTavroba da prezidenti kinklaobiT
arian dakavebulni. Tundac, is, rom saqarT-
_ batono mamuka, bolo dros presiT
ucnauri informacia gavrcelda, TiTqos Semodgomaze ivaniSvili axal opoziciur partias Seqmnis da RaribaSvilis mTavrobas
daamarcxebs.
_ warmoidgine, gamovides ivaniSvili da
gamoacxados, rom opoziciur partias qmnis.
mTeli `qarTuli ocneba~ RaribaSvilis meTaurobiT umal im opoziciur partiaSi aRmoCndeba, iq Sesvlas erTmaneTs Seaswreben,
vinRa darCeba xelisuflebaSi, ar vici. rac
ar unda gamoacxados ivaniSvilma, yvela mis
gverdiT iqneba. ivaniSvili da `qarTuli
ocneba~ WiplariT arian erTmaneTs gadabmulni. mecineba roca amboben, biZina ivaniSvili kuluarebidan marTavs xelisuflebaso. jer erTi, uamravi sxva SemTxveva vici
roca xelisufleba kuluarebidan imarTeba.
miSa singapurze rom giJdeboda, iqac ase
iyo. aSS-s prezidents, xSir SemTxvevaSi,
gadawyvetilebebs msxvili trans-nacionaluri kompaniebi aRebineben. ki, vTqvaT marTavs biZina ivaniSvili kuluarebidan, mere
ra? mTavari Sedegia da ara forma. aqve unda giTxraT, Cemi informaciiT, RaribaSvils ukve orjer aqvs gadadgomaze gancxadeba dawerili, magram amis saSualebas ar
aZleven.
_ da mainc, qarTuli presa wylis amRvrevas, SuRlis gaRvivebas xom ar cdilobs
axlandel da yofil premiers Soris? es
xom nacebis wisqvilze asxams wyals?
_ qarTul presas ar aqvs imis Sno, ivaniSvilsa da RaribaSvils Soris mtroba gaaRvivos miTumetes, rom premieri amis mizezs ar iZleva. analitikuri, seriozuli
presa, ZiriTadad, 5% gvaqvs, danarCeni yviTeli presaa, romelic sensaciebze, Seumowmeben ambebzea orientirebuli. RaribaSvilis da ivaniSvilis urTierToba imdenad
Rrmaa, rom presa verafers daaklebs.
velos sazRvrebi moSiSvlebulia, kanoniT
daculi araa, demarkacia ar arsebobs. uamravi gamowveva da riskia qveynisTvis islamuri fundamentalizmidan dawyebuli ekokatastrofebiT damTavrebuli.
_ rogorc amboben, saakaSvili gagubernatorobamde Tavisi nacionaluri gundisgan
saqarTveloSi revoluciis mowyobas iTxovda.
_ vici, rom aqtivobebs iTxovda da
brazdeboda amaze, rom amden fuls xarjavda da gundi kidev naklebad aqtiurobda.
bolos gamarTul aqciaze, aqaoda miSa unda davabrunoTo, magram mitingze 30 kaci
mivida. xalxs, miSas dabrunebaze laparaki,
mobezrda. ici, ra aris? _ xalxs 2007
wlis miSa rom damaxsovreboda, maSin im
dRes aqciaze 10 aTasi da meti kaci iqneboda, magram maT 2008 da 2012 wlis saakaSvili axsovT. aqedan gamomdinare, 30 kaci
rom mivida, isic bevria.
_batono mamuka, saubris dasawyisSi axseneT, bokeria an `nacmoZraobas~ ganaaxlebs
an axal partias Seqmniso. dayofis es gegma ramdenad SesaZlebelia masTan kavSirSi
iyos?
_ ar gamovricxav es swored misi gegmis nawili iyos. bokeriasgan yvelaferia mosalodneli, kargic da cudic. igi Cems xelSia gazrdili, `saRamo mSvidobisa~-Si muSaobda da misi gonebis horizonti kargad vici. samwuxarod, Camoyalibda adamianad, romelmac bevri uaryofiTi ram Caidina. ar gamovricxav, mas garkveuli Canafiqrebi, Sors
mimavali gegmebi hqondes, Tan, bevri qarTveli politikosisgan gansxvavebiT, strategiulad azrovneba SeuZlia. amitom, ar gamovricxav, es RonisZieba misi momavali moqmedebis garkveuli fragmenti iyos.
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saerTo gazeTi
2012 wlis 30 marts saqar Tvelos yofil mTavrobas, me riasa da Cinur korporacia
„hualings“ Soris gaformda
xelSekruleba, romlis Tanaxmad, am ukanasknels evropis
axalgazrduli
sazafxulo
olimpiuri
festivalisTvis
olimpiuri sofeli unda aeSe nebina. proeqtis dagegmvis,
kontruqciisa da molaparake bebis dros saqarTvelos yofili prezidenti piradad Sexvda
hualingis delegacias da daeswro kontraqtze xelmoweris
ceremonias. kompleqsis mSeneblobisTvis Tbilisis zRvis
mimdebare teritoriaze
420
heqtari miwis nakveTi gamoiyo.
cnobisTvis, „hualing jgufi“
saqarTveloSi kapitaldabande bas 2007 wlidan axorcielebs.
mis mier SeZenili iqna xe-t
tyis,
oqrosa da samSeneblo qvis mopovebis 20 wliani licenziebi.
rac Seexeba olimpiur qalaqs, 2015 wlis 26 ivliss
sofelma 49 qveynis 3800
sporstmens unda umaspinZlos.
festivalis saorganizacio komitetis Tavmjdomaris TqmiT,
mSenebare obieqtebis ZiriTadi
nawili dasrulebulia da yvela sportuli nageboba, rome lic festivalisTvis mzaddeba,
saerTaSoriso standartebisaa.
Tumca, „hualingis“ saqmianoba ze gansxvavebuli Sexedulebisaa arasamTavrobo organizacia
iuridiul da fizikur pirTa
uflebebis dacva-antikorufciuli kavSiris Tavmjdomare giorgi burjanaZe. Cinuri kompaniis mier
uxarisxod Catarebul samuSa osa da „hualingis“ mier „ga dagdebul“ qarTul kompaniebze
saubrobs. misi TqmiT, gaxSirda SemTxvevebi, roca tenderebs korufciul garigebebSi
CarTuli da upasuxismgeblo
kompaniebi igeben. Sedegad viRebT uxarisxod agebul Senoba-nnagebobebs da uxelfasod
darCenil, motyuebul adamia nebs, _ ganacxada giorgi bur janaZem.
yvelasTvis cnobilia, rom
2015 wlis axalgazrduli
olimpiadisTvis zRvis teritoriaze mimdinareobs olimpiuri qalaqis mSenebloba. miuxedavad imisa, rom Senobebi
STambeWdavad gamoiyureba, maqvs dazustebuli informacia,
rom saamuSaoebi Zalian uxarisxod Catarda. faqtia, rom
saqarTveloSi xarisxis kontrolis samsaxuris ararsebobiT, kargad sargebloben arakeTilsindisieri adamianebi da
samSeneblo sferoSi sruli
ganukiTxaobaa. eqspertebisa da
specialistebis
SefasebiT,
zRvis mimdebare teritoriaze
aramyari da aseTi masStaburi
proeqtebisTvis sruliad gamoudegari niadagebia. aq namdvilad ar iyo rekomendirebuli
mSeneblobis dawyeba, magram
mogexsenebaT, wina xelisuflebis dros yvelaferi erTi adamianis muStis dartymiT wydeboda. aramyar niadagebs isic
daemata,
rom
saZirkvelis
gaTxrisas,
gruntamde anu
myar fenebamde ar Casulan.
SarSan zafxulSi Zlieri qaris dros, erT erTi mSenebare
saxlis meSvide sarTulis ke-
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giorgi burjanaZe: roca ucxoel muSas
maRal xelfass uxdi da adgilobriv
muSaxels ufasod amuSaveb, amas
kriminali da qveynis abuCad agdeba qvia
vin aris damnaSave _ Cinuri korporacia
`hualingi~ Tu qarTuli Sps-eebi?
aqedan rvas saxelfaso davalianeba gaaCnia. qarTveli muSebi
saSinel mdgomareobaSi arian.
ojaxSi puris fuli ver SeaqvT, sabanko valdebulebebs
ver asruleben da aravin icis,
es ramden xans gagrZeldeba.
Cveni informaciiT, axlo momavalSi, ekonomikis saministros Sesabamisi samsaxurebi
olimpiur sofelSi miReba-Cabarebis procedurebs Caatareben. savaraudod, Senoba-nagebobebis mniSvnelovani nawili
moTxovnil standartebs ver
daakmayofilebs. albaT, Cinur
kompaniasac igive molodini
aqvs da xelfasebis gacemis
traqtorebi, qalaqis
erT-erTi kuTxis reabilitaciaze amuSava
da bolos saxelfaso
fondSi 100 000 lari
ar gadauricxa _ mizezi Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis xarisxi gaxldaT. igive kompaniam WiaTuraSi fasadurad gaaremonta municipaluri Senobebi da Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis
uxarisxobis sababiT,
erT-erT qvekontraqtors 20 000 lari ar
gadauricxa. gemaxsovrebaT, rogor „SesaniSnavad“
agviSena
Turqulma kompania „aqsmSenma“
iusticiis saxli. igive `aqsu~
muSaobda gldanis cixeSi gayvanilobebze. sabolood, Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis uxarisxobis gamo, `aqsum~ cixeSi
amohyo Tavi, xolo ra daemarTebodaT qvekontraqtorebs,
Tavadac mixvdebiT. darwmunebuli var, rom Tbilisis zRvaze momuSave kompaniebis SemTxvevaSic igive moxdeba. qarTvel
qvekontraqtorebs vurCev, sanam miReba-Cabarebis aqtamde misulan, kompaniebs saxelfaso
davalianeba manamde gaastumrebinon, Torem Cinelebisgan qarTvelebis SromiTi eqspluata-
dros Segnebulad aWianurebs.
rogorc ki problemebi Seiqmneba, Cinelebi qarTul kompaniebs moubrundeban da etyvian:
Tqveni Sesrulebuli samuSao
standartebs ar akmayofilebs,
msoflioSi reputacia SemilaxeT da xelfass ar gadagixdiTo. msgavsi SemTxvevebi bevri
gvqonia. wina xelisuflebis
dros, erT-erTma kompaniam,
romlis saxels amjerad ar
davasaxeleb, daiqirava qvekon-
ciis faqtis winaSe davdgebiT.
yvela moqmedi xelSekrulebis
Tanaxmad, anazRaureba unda
moxdes yoveli Tvis dasawyisSi an bolos. rom aRaraferi
vTqvaT komunalur gadasaxadebze da ojaxur saWiroebebze,
TiToeul Cvengans gaaCnia sabanko valdebulebebi, romlebic aucileblad yovelTviurad unda daifaros. banks ar
ainteresebs Cinelma ar gadagixada Turqma Tu quTaiselma.
giorgi burjanaZe
deli daingra. Senobac vici
romelia, kedelic da mzad var
telekamerebTan erTad mivide
da yvelas vanaxo uxarisxod
aSenebuli kedlebi. sruliad
darwmunebuli var, rom es Senoba-nagebobebi ar akmayofilebs aranair samSeneblo normebsa da standartebs. teqnikuri universitetis specialistebi da eqspertebi meubnebian,
qalaqSi iseTi Senoba-nagebobebi Sendeba, rom 30 weliwadSi
Tbilisi avariul qalaqad gamocxaddebao da TbilisSi mimdinare samSeneblo bumis Semxedvare, amaSi sruliad darwmunebuli var.
uxarisxo mSeneblo bebis garda, saxezea
problemaTa mTeli kas kadi, _ acxadebs burja naZe. misi monayolidan
irkveva, rom Cinur kom panias ramdenime qarT vel qvekontraqtorTan
gaaCnia 6-7
7 Tvis saxelfaso davalianeba. anti korufciuli kavSiris
Tavmjdomare varaudobs,
rom Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis uxarisxobis mo mizezebiT, „hualingi“
qvekontraqtorebs fuls
aRar gadauricxavs da
qarTveli muSebi „gadagdebuli“ darCebian.
yvelas gvsmena SromiTi trefikingis Sesaxeb, roca muSaxeli ahyavT da mere anazRaurebas ar
aZleven. swored aseT SemTxvevasTan gvaqvs saqme Tbilisis
zRvis teritoriaze mimdinare
mSeneblobebze. garkveuli saxis samuSaoebis Sesasruleblad, Cinur kompanias qvekontraqtorebad
daqiravebuli
hyavs qarTuli Sps-ebi, romelTa umravlesobas 7-8 Tvea,
xelfasebs ar uricxavs. rogorc vici, mSeneblobaze 12
qarTuli kompania muSaobs da
aba, saqarTvelos moqalaqem
moigos CineTSi, an TurqeTSi
tenderi da Cinelebs da Turqebs Tveebis ganmavlobaSi xelfasi ar misces, cocxali ver
gamoaswrebs iqidan. Cvens qveyanaSi Cinelic, Turqic da iranelic imas akeTebs, rasac Tavis qveyanaSi ver gabedavda. yofil Tu amJamindel xelisuflebas araerTxel uTqvams, rom
ucxoelma investorma, pirvel
rigSi, adgilobrivi muSaxeli
unda daasaqmos. dasaqmebiT
asaqmeben, magram roca xelfasis gacemaze midgeba saqme, Cinel muSebs aZleven xelfass
da qarTvels
_ ara. iseTi
STaveWdileba mrCeba, rom Cinur kompanias garkveuli Zalebi mfarveloben da agulianeben: qarTvelebs sul nu miscemT mag xelfass, uaresebic
mouTmeniaT da autaniaTo.
_ antikorufciuli kavSiris Tavmjdomare acxadebs,
rom olimpiuri soflis mSeneblobaze dasaqmebuli Cinelebis 30% patimaria, romlebsac
kompania iaf muSaxelad iyenebs. burjanaZis ganmartebiT,
Cineli patimris anazRaureba
qarTveli muSis xelfasze gacilebiT metia.
_ CemTvis cnobilia, rom
olimpiuri qalaqis mSeneblobisTvis, Cinurma kompaniam iafi
muSaxelis saxiT Camoiyvana patimrebi, romlebsac, pirvel etapze,
dReSi 20 dolars uxdian. patimrebi vaSlijvris dasaxlebaSi mdebare sastumroSi cxovroben da mSeneblobamde avtobusiT gadaadgildebian. sapatimro vadis
gasvlis Semdeg (muSaobis periodi patimrobaSi eTvlebaT) gadadian
50 dolarian anazRaurebaze, zog SemTxvevaSi ki
80 da 100 dolarsac ki
uxdian. igive samuSaoebis SesrulebaSi Cvens
muSaxels 20 lars aZleven da imasac TveobiT
ar uxdian. aravis Seuracxyofas ar vayeneb,
magram verc sakuTari qveynis
siyvaruls amikrZalavs vinme,
amitom pirdapir vityvi-roca
Cinel muSas yovelTviurad maRal xelfass uxdi da adgilobriv muSaxels ufasod amuSaveb, amas kriminali da qveynis abuCad agdeba qvia. guli
mwydeba, rom Sesabamisi samsaxurebi amaze reagirebas ar axdenen. SeiZleba ikiTxoT, sai-
saerTo gazeTi
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
dan vici yvelaferi ase detalurad? saqme
is gaxlavT, rom Cveni organizaciis 12 TanamSromeli Tbilisis zRvaze mimdinare mSeneblobaSi dawyebis dRidan monawileobs da
Tavisi TvaliT xedavs, rac iq xdeba. bunebrivia, am adamianebis vinaobas ver davasaxeleb, Tumca Tu kompanias rame pretenzia gauCndeba, Cemi TanamSromlebi daadastureben,
rom maT ramdenime Tvis xelfasi asaRebi
aqvT. saubris bolos gulistkiviliT getyviT, rom saqarTvelo iqca sacdel poligonad, sadac Cinelsac da iranelsac yvelafris keTebis ufleba aqvs da veravin ubatonod xmas ver gascems.
_ anonimurobis dacvis garantiiT, „saerTo gazeTs“ Tbilisis zRvis „olimpiuri
qalaqis“ mSeneblobaze dasaqmebuli adgi lobrivi muSa esaubra. masTan saubarSi gavarkvieT, rom „sxva sikeTeebTan“ erTad saxelmwifosTvis Semosavlebis damalvis faqtebsac aqvs adgili, Tumca rogorc sxva,
ise am faqtebzec qarTuli mxaris reagireba nulia.
_ ver getyviT, mSeneblobaze dasaqmebuli Cinelebi patimrebi arian Tu ara, magram isini rigiTi muSis poziciebze ar muSaoben da ufrosebi arian. Cven CinelebTan
urTierToba ar gvaqvs, magram viciT, rom
Cvenze maRali xelfasebi aqvT. qarTveli
muSis yoveldRiuri anazRaureba 20 laria, magram amasac ver viRebT. iciT, rogoraa? Cineli korpuss gasaremonteblad aZlevs qarTul Sps-s, romelsac Tavisi brigada hyavs. qarTveli brigadiri Tavis muSebs xelfass Cinelebisgan Caricxuli Tanxidan uxdis, magram korpusis Cabarebis
dro rom movida, Cinelebma Cvens brigadirs
gamoucxades, rom Sesrulebuli samuSao ar
mowonT da xelfass ver gadagvixdian. Cvens
garemontebul korpusebs ar ibareben, magram imasac ver gveubnebian konkretulad ra
ar mowonT. arc imis uflebas gvaZleven,
rom Tu ar mowonT da ar ibareben, Cveni garemontebuli masala avyaroT da waviRoT.
ar vici, ase rodemde gagrZeldeba.. marto
me, daaxloebiT, 800-900 lari maqvs asaRebi da CemTan erTad biWebi arian, romlebsac 1000 da 2000 larze meti aqvT asaRebi.
_ ratom moxda saxelfaso davalianebis
dagroveba da xelSekrulebis pirobebSi Tu
ewera, rom Sesrulebuli samuSaos dawunebis SemTxvevaSi, kompanias ufleba aqvs fu li ar gadagixadoT?
_ araviTari xelSekruleba ar arsebobs.
xelSekrulebas ar gvideben, imitom, rom dabegvra ar gvindao. gveubnebian, rom fuli
Cvens brigadirs unda movTxovoT, magram ra
movTxovoT, roca isic CvensaviT „gadagdebulia“?
rogorc mosalodneli iyo, kompania
„hualing jgufis“ warmomadgenlebma arasam Tavroboebis mier mowodebuli informacia
ar daadastures. kompaniis adamianuri re sursebis marTvis ganyofilebis ufrosma
Tamar daneliSvilis TqmiT, „hualingi“
qvekontraqtorebs fuls mxolod Sesrule-
bul samuSaoSi uxdis. bunebrivia, Seusru lebel samuSaoSi fuls ver gadavixdiT da
verc kontraqtorebis saxelfaso davalianebebze vagebT pasuxs_ganacxada daneliSvilma.
albaT iciT, rom Cveni kompania samSeneblo samuSaoebs uSualod ar awarmoebs da
kontraqti aqvs gaformebuli sxvadasxva
kompaniebTan. Cven maT kontraqtisa da Sesrulebuli samuSaos mixedviT vuxdiT gadasaxads. maT unda Seasrulon garkveuli samuSao da Tanxa mxolod amis Semdeg nazRaurdeba. amdenad, maTi pasuxismgeblobaa,
rom TavianT daqiravebulebs xelfasi gadauxadon.
_ qvekontraqtorebs Tanxa Tu ar Cau ricxeT, daqiravebul muSebs xelfass ro gor gadauxdian?
_ Tqven rom daiqiravoT vinme saxlSi
samuSaoebis Casatareblad da ise ar Seasrulos, rogorc moTxoveT, fuls gadauxdiT? maTi valdebuleba kontraqtiT gaTvaliswinebuli samuSaos Sesrulebaa da Cveni valdebulebaa, rom Tanxa Sesrulebuli
samuSaos mixedviT gadavuxadoT.
_ muSebi, romlebmac olimpiuri qalaqis
mSeneblobaze keTilsindisierad imuSaves
da TavianTi
valdebulebebi Seasrules,
Tavs motyuebulad grZnoben da amaSi Tqvens
kompanias adanaSauleben.
_ es Cveni kompaniis problema ar aris.
Cvens valdebulebas, rac kontraqtiT
gvaqvs gaTvaliswinebuli, pirnaTlad vasrulebT da namdvilad ar aris Cveni brali
Tu daqiravebuli qvekontraqtori xelfass
ar uxdis Tavis daqiravebul muSebs. Cven
vinc gvyavs kompaniaSi daqiravebuli, yvela
droulad iRebs xelfass, magram rogor
unda gadavixadoT fuli im samuSaoSi, romelic ar Sesrulebula?
Sesrulebuli samuSaoebis uxarisxobas
sruliad gamoricxavs kompania „hualing
jgufis“ piar-mmenejeri. TinaTin SiSilaSvilis TqmiT, korpusebis Cabarebis procesi
yvela wesis dacviT mimdinareobs da meriis
Sesabamis samsaxurebs mSeneblobis xarisxTan dakavSirebiT pretenziebi ar gasCeniaT.
meriis zedamxedvelobis samsaxuris mier moxda Cvens mier gadacemuli korpusebis eqspluataciaSi mieba da es procesi
yvela proceduris dacviT mimdinareobs.
Cven gadavcemT merias. isini modian, amowmeben da eqspluataciaSi iReben. mSeneblobis
xarisxTan dakavSirebiT, maTi mxridan SeniSvnebi ar yofila. procesi jer ar dasrulebula. korpusebis nawili Cabarebulia,
nawilis Cabareba amJamad mimdinareobs.
„hualingis“ warmomadgenlebTan saub ris Sedegad SeiZleba davaskvnaT, rom qar Tveli qvekontraqtorebis arakeTilsindisieri muSaobis miuxedavad, samuSao unak lod Sesrulda da meriis Sesabamis samsaxurebs mSeneblobis xarisxTan dakavSirebiT, SeniSvnebi ar gasCeniaT. es yvelaferi
logikaSi rogor jdeba, Cvenma mkiTxvelma
da kidev im saTanado organoebma gansajon,
romlebic, imedia, an sakiTxis SeswavliT
aucileblad dainteresdebian.
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rbilad rom vTqvaT, uaryofiTi
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iCens, rac kidev ufro samwuxaroa.
axla vnaxoT, ra mogvitana 2012
wlis 1 oqtombris arCevnebma.
aravin moeloda, rom aseT Rarib
qveyanaSi SesaZlebeli iqneboda jandacvis reformis ase swrafad ganxorcieleba. jandacvis sayovelTao
dazRvevis Sedegad saqarTveloSi
sikvdilianoba Semcirda, rasac
TiTqmis yvela aRniSnavs. samagierod, zogierTma daiviwya is dro,
rodesac ufulod eqimsac verc
esalmebodnen. xom aris umaduroba?
an `C~ hepatitis ufasod mkurnaloba msoflios ramden qveyanaSia,
xom ar dagviTvlia? an ra jdeba am
daavadebis mkurnaloba? magram zogierTs ar unda kargis danaxva da
morCa, araferi keTdebao da zogierTi TuTiyuSiviT imeorebs.
produqtze fasebi izrdebao,
Civian. ratom da ra Zvirdeba, arafers amboben. adgilobrivi produqcia araTu imatebs, iklebs kidec.
amis gasarkvevad gaiareT, batono,
bazarSi da darwmundebiT. xorci
imaze iafia, vidre `nacmoZraobis~
mmarTvelobis periodSi. diax, garkveuli produqcia Zvirdeba, oRond
isini importulia.
biZina ivaniSvili qveynis ganviTarebisTvis erT-erT mTavar prioritetad soflis meurneobas miiCnevda da miiCnevs, amitomac moixna
saqarTveloSi miwebi. axla gaviaroT Tbilisis quCebSi da vnaxoT,
ramdeni adamiani, romelic soflad
unda muSaobdes, usaqmod dayialobs, an ukeTes SemTxvevaSi, bazrobaze dgas. vin Seqmnis produqcias maT magivrad, isev biZina ivaniSvili xom ara? an misi bralia Cveni sizarmace?
biZina ivaniSvilma saqarTvelos
aacila kidev erTi ZmaTa omi, rac
advili SesaZlebelia momxdariyo.
samagierod, `nacmoZraobelebma~ axla enebi gaitlikes da Sanss ar
uSveben xelidan mis saZageblad.
raoden gasaocaric ar unda iyos,
maT mxari sxvadasxva politikurma
partiebmac aubes, Tundac igive
`Tavisufalma demokratebma~, `leiboristebma~, Tu sxvebma da sxvebma.
zogs fuli undoda, zogs Tanamdeboba, zogs orive misca, magram... ai,
es aris umadurobis gamovlineba.
kritika, nebismieri xelisuflebisTvis aucilebelia. mxedvelobaSi gvaqvs jansaRi kritika da ara
lanZRva. samwuxaro is aris, rom
mxolod usafuZvlo saubrebi gvesmis, gamosavals da Wkvianur azrs
iSviaTad gaigonebs adamiani. presateleviziebma xom mTlad auria
Tav-gza mosaxleobas. Tumca Cvens
zogierT kolegas daaviwyda is zewola da diqtati, romelsac `nacmoZraobis~ dros ganvicdidiT. esec
umadurobaa.
rac yvelaze samwuxaroa, umaduroba biZina ivaniSvilis mimarT
mis mier xeldasxmulma prezidentmac gamoiCina. saerTodac sainteresoa, ra saWiroa Cvens qveyanaSi
prezidentis institutis arseboba,
ra funqcia akisria, gaugebaria. erTi, rac aSkarad Cans, dRes prezidenti inglisis dedofaliviT
gvyavs.
nu viqnebiT, batonebo, umadurebi. yvelafers Tavisi saxeli davarqvaT _ kargs kargi da cuds _ cudi. uSecdomo adamiani ar aris qveyanaze, magram Secdomaze unda mivuTiToT da usafuZvlod ar unda vilanZRebodeT, Torem umaduroba
kargs arafers mogvitans.
`umaduroba ujiSobis aris
niSani~ _ Tqva erTma poetma.
ki magram, Cven, qarTvelebs,
jiSian erad rom mogvaqvs Tavi,
saidan Semogvepara es samarcxvino
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oTxi dRe `cecxlovan
qveyanaSi~, anu san
seviram, azerbaijan!
saqarTvelos Crdilo-aRmosavleTiT mdebare mxares,
romelsac Turme romaelebi
atropatenas eZaxdnen, xolo
arabebi aderbedagans, Tanamedroveni ki azerbaijans
uwodeben, pirvelad vestumre.
`wiTeli xididan~ azerbaijanis dedaqalaqamde xuTieqvsi saaTis savali gzaa.
...rac ufro Sors midixar
saqarTvelodan, miT metad
Sordebi qarTul yofas...
aguriT naSenebi pompezuri saxlebi maRali koSkurebiT, saxuravebze gvirgvinebiT. TviT saxlebis umetesoba garedan brWyvialebs, rogorc Cans, sarkeebi daumtvreviaT da baTqaSSi CauyolebiaT.
gzad gvxvdeba warwerebi:
Saqi. yazaxi, ganja...
baqo. azerbaijanis, rogorc uwodebdnen, `cecxlis
qveynis~ dedaqalaqi, ulamazesia, kekluci azerbaijaneli
qalebiviT mimzidveli da kaSkaSa, dRisiTac ki.
baqo
sil qalebsac dainaxavT. ufro Tanamedroved 17-20 wlis
ymawvilebs acviaT. Tanamedroveoba ki Semoifargleba gogonebze viwro SarvlebiT da
gaSlili grZeli TmebiT.
azerbaijanis quCebSi arc
erTi qali ar dadis gamomwvevad Cacmuli...
sainteresoa da, erTi SexedviT ase Cans, rom azerbaijaneli mamakacebi did pativs scemen TavianT qalebs.
sazogadoebriv transportSi
konferenciis gaxsna
quCaSi gamvlelic, Cinovnikic da ubralo taqsis
mZRolic kmayofilia, rom
maT qveyanas heidar alievis
vaJi ilham alievi marTavs.
_ giyvarT Tqveni prezidenti?
_ SeiZleba is ar giyvardes? _ kiTxviT mpasuxoben
baqoelebi.
heidar alievis Zegli,
foto da plakati yvelaze
xSirad mogxvdebaT TvalSi,
mTeli qalaqi am fotoebiTaa
mofenili. azerbaijanelebi
heidar alievs TavianT beladad da winamZRolad miiCneven
da samarTlianadac. misi
mmarTvelobis periodSi azerbaijanma
damoukidebloba
moipova da ganviTarebadi demokratiis gzas daadga.
tradiciebis zedmiwevniT
dacvas dRemde cdiloben
TviT dedaqalaqSic ki.
quCebSi Savi hijabiT Semo-
ar dajdeba arc erTi mamakaci, Tu qali fexze dgas.
win ar daudgeba qals, magaliTad, maRaziaSi da TvalebSi umizezod ar Caxedavs...
azerbaijanelebi SesaniSnavi maspinZlebi arian.
stumars kavkasiuri siamtkbilobiT uReben karebs, raTa GaCvenon, ra Zlieri, la-
mazi da mdidari qveyana aqvT.
cdiloben, dagamaxsovron Tavi, rom yvelgan Tqva: azerbaijani aris saxelmwifo, azerbaijanelebi arian eris Svilebi. es asecaa. yvela baqoeli azerbaijanis patriotia
da rom ityvian, guliT efereba Tavis samSoblos.
azerbaijani dRes regionSi umdidresi qveyanaa da rogorc am qveynis prezidentis
mrCevelma qamal abdulam
miTxra, es ar aris mxolod
bunebrivi resursebis
damsaxureba.
azerbaijani damoukidebel politikas
awarmoebs!..
ar apirebs arc
erT samxedro da politikur
aliansSi
gawevrianebas da msoflio arenaze damoukidebeli
sityvis
Tqmas apirebs.
* * *
5-7 maiss baqos
slavianur iniversitetSi meeqvse saerTaSoriso samecniero konferencia gaimarTa,
romelic heidar alievis 92e wlisTavs mieZRvna.
konferenciaSi 19 qveynis
warmomadgenelma miiRos monawileoba. stumarTa Soris
iyvnen: ruseTis, belarusiis,
bulgareTis, poloneTis, ge-
rmaniis, TurqeTis, inglisis, litvis, italiis,
yirgizeTis, CexeTis, aSSis, israelis, Sveciis, egviptis, iranis, yazaxeTis,
niderlandebis warmomadgenlebi.
azerbaijanuli universitetebi
aqtiurad
iyvnen Cabmulni konferenciaSi. fond `codnis~
warmomadgenlebi, samecniero-kvleviTi instituti
ÍÀÍÀ, baqos saxelmwifo universiteti, azerbaijanis saxelmwifo pedagogiuri universiteti,
azerbaijanis enebis Semswavleli universiteti, teqnikuri universiteti, nacionaluri saaviacio akademia, saxelmwifo ekonomikuri universiteti, saxelmwifo marTvis akademia, m. lomonosovis saxelobis saxelmwifo
universitetis baqos filiali, azerbaijanis samedicino
universiteti, baqos slavianuri universiteti, turizmisa da menejmentis universiteti, nacionaluri konservatoria, musikaluri akademia,
sportis akademia, policiis
akademia, baqos evraziis universiteti, kavkasiuri universiteti, pedagogikis instituti
da misi Samaxiisa
da yazaxis filialebi, sumgaiTis saxelmwifo universiteti, naxCevanis
universiteti, ganjis universiteti,
agraruli universiteti,
baqoel
qalTa universiteti,
kooperaciis
universiteti, biznesis
umaRlesi
saswavlebeli, islamuri universiteti, sxva umaRlesi saswavleblebi, agreTve baqos 95-2,
286-e. 301-e saSualo skolebi.
TiTqmis mTeli qveyana CaerTo am RonisZiebaSi sruli
mobilizaciiT da pasuxismgeblobiT...
konferenciis gaxsnis dRes, dilidan, konferenciis
monawileebma heidar alievis
saflavi yvavilebiT SevamkeT.
slavianuri universitetis foieSi heidar alievis
xsovnis kuTxea, kuTxe ki
ara, darbazi, fotoebiT, uWknobi yvavilebis gvirgvinebiT. iqve xmis gamaZliereblidan ismis azerbaijanis himni,
azerbaijanuli simRerebi da
araviTari inglisuri...
studentebi dganan foieSi
da usmenen...
plakati ki gvamcnobs:
`xalxi, romelsac aqvs maRali kultura, yovelTvis ivlis win, icocxlebs da ganviTardeba~. _ heidar alievi...
konferencia saxelmwifo
himniT gaixsna.
misasalmebeli sityviT gamosulma akademikosma qamal abdulaevma Tqva:
`heidar alievi yovelTvis
Cvens gulebSi iqneba, amis Sedegia swored es saerTaSoriso konferencia~.
profesori zaxar zaxarievi, bulgareTi: ...Tavisuflad SeiZleba iTqvas,
rom baqo erT-erTi yvelaze
lamazi qalaqia msoflioSi,
me Zalian miyvars es qveyana
da amitomac xelidan ar gavuSvi SesaZlebloba davswrebodi konferencias. heidar
alievis moRvaweobis Seswavla dRes aqtualuria yvela
aspeqtSi, misi memkvidreoba
Zalian sainteresoa, radgan
is iTvleba saxelmwifoebriobis namdvil mSeneblad da
es igrZnoba yvelgan _ azerbaijani viTardeba da is Ta-
qamal abdulaevi
vis sityvas Rirseulad ityvis msoflio arenaze.
daviT gociriZe, profesori, saqarTvelo: es konferencia ukve tradiciad iqca... aq Sekrebilni arian
msoflios sxvadasxva qveynis
warmomadgenlebi da yoveli
maTgani azerbaijanul kulturas msoflio masStabiT
ganixilavs. es Zalian didi
gamocdilebaa
qveynisTvis,
roca SegiZlia sxvisi TvaliT Sexedo Sens qveyanas.
einsheut urlike, doqtori, germania: meorejer
var baqoSi. mixaria, rom am
konferenciaze movxvdi. aqtu-
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alur problemebs ganvixilavT, Sexedulebebs vuziarebT erTmaneTs.
augsburgis universiteti
TanamSromlobs baqos saxelmwifo universitetTan. vfiqrob, momavalSi es urTierTobebi ufro mWidro gaxdeba.
iolanta zabarskaite, profesori, litva: Zalian momwons baqo, azerbai-
asker ahmedi
janis mSvenieri dedaqalaqi...
madlobeli var baqos saxelmwifo
universitetis,
mogveca saSualeba vimsjeloT aqtualur sakiTxebze~.
saerTaSoriso urTierTobis fakultetis studentebma mSvenivrad ician rusuli,
inglisuri, polonuri, Cexuri enebi. ramdenime maTgani
saqarTveloSic aris namyofi
dasasveneblad.
_ borjomi, xaWapuri,
_ amboben da icinian.
me vicnob ilia WavWavaZes, _ ambobs erTi.
saqarTvelo aq yvelas
uyvars. ise laparakoben,
raRac Zalian rom mogwons da rom ginda, sul
eferebode...
ufrosebi
mowiwebiT laparakoben
qarTvelebsa da saqarTveloze, ymawvilebi aRtacebiT...
Cveni maspinZeli universitetSi, istoriis
fakultetis dekani asker ahmedia. inteligenti azerbaijaneli, moridebuli, daxvewili. is istorikosia, magram kosmopoliti
ar aris, udides pativs
gvcems, namdvili jentlmenia,
oRond azerbaijanis Rirseba
misTvis yvelaferze mniSvnelovania, yarabaRis Temaze
msjelobisas vgrZnob, rogor
iZabeba da surs es gancda damalos.
saerTod, yarabaRis problema yvela azerbaijanelSi
udides tkivils iwvevs da
gagrZnobinebs, rom es konfliqti mxolod gayinulia da
dro mas odesme aamoqmedebs...
baqoSi warmatebebi aqvT
saqarTvelodan Casul azerbaijanelebs. gacnobisas pirvelad imas amboben, rom qarTul miwaze gaizardnen da
enatrebaT aqauroba...
Cvenc gvixaria, rom viRac
mainc afasebs qarTuli miwis
madls...
`me saqarTveloSi davibade, dmanisSi, TbilisSi cxovroben Cemi da da Zma, iq davqorwindi, saqarTveloSi daibadnen Cemi Svilebi. miyvars
saqarTvelo. yvelani kargad
viyaviT erTmaneTTan _ azerbaijanelebic, qarTvelebic.
axla xaliCebis mwarmoebel qarxanaSi `azer-ilmeSi~
vmuSaob. Zalian kargi direqtori
gvyavs.
kmayofili
varT...
minda qarTvel xalxs
vuTxra:
mogesalmebiT,
gkocniT yvelas! menatrebiT! _ ambobs suraia
norguzova,
romelic
baqos xaliCebis qarxana `azer-ilmeSi~ mqsovelad muSaobs.
vidadi muradovi,
`azer-iilmes~ generaluri
direqtori: rusulad ar
vilaparakeb. ar miyvars
rusuli ena. me kavkasieli
xalxi miyvars. azerbaijanul enaze vilaparakeb da
gadamiTargmnian.
Cems qarxanaSi qsoven
xaliCebs. Cveni saqme ar
aris politika, Cven gvainteresebs uZvelesi rewvis kultura da misi gavrceleba. 40
weliwadia xaliCebis saqmes
vswavlob da kavkasiaSi, SeiZleba iTqvas, me var yvelaze
saukeTeso xaliCebis eqsperti.
dRes saqarTveloSi uxarisxo, iranidan Camotanili
xaliCebi iyideba, arada, Tavis droze, yvelaze kargi
nebi ufasod dauriges
qalaqis prestiJul ubnebSi. es iyo Zalian didi saCuqari ilham alievisgan _ garemontebuli binebi saxelmwifo
dacviT da a. S. Cveni
prezidenti
afasebs
Cvens Sromas.
migvaCnia, rom sakuTari qveynis problemebi
TviTon unda gadavwyvitoT. ruseTisgan daxmareba ar gvWirdeba da
arc araviTar aliansSi
ar gvsurs viyoT ruseTis
federaciasTan.
sevil iusufova
azerbaijani damoukidebeli saxelmwifoa, mas
AZER BANK. ucxouri bandamoukidebeli
politika
kebis wili aq umniSvneloa
aqvs!~
da SeiZleba iTqvas, arc aris
warmodgenili.
azerbaijans surs fexi
auwyos Tanamedrove yofas da
amas mSvenivrad axerxebs.
rogorc saqarTveloSi,
azerbaijanSic uamravi arasamTavrobo organizaciaa. magaliTad, erT-erTi arasamTavrobo organizaciis `Jurnalist qalTa asociaciis~
xelmZRvaneli, Jurnalisti
sevil iusofovaa, romelic aseve azerbaijanel qalTa genderuli Tanasworobis
sakiTxebze muSaobs.
sevil iusufova: `saxelmwifo struqturebsa da
sxva angariSgasawev samsaxurebSi iuristebad, politikosebad, politologebad qalbatonebi arian warmodgenilni, magram es arc ise bevria. meti azerbaijaneli
qali unda iRebdes monawileobas qveynis mSeneblobaSi. ufro meti qali
gvsurs iyos azerbaijanis parlamentSi _ milli-mejlisSi.
Cveni saqmianobisTvis
grantebs ucxoeTidan ar
viRebT, azerbaijanis xelisufleba
gvexmareba.
arasamTavrobo organizaciebs adre hqondaT ucxouri dafinanseba, axla ukvidadi muradovi ve yvelas saxelmwifo uzrunvelyofs da ucxouri
dafinanseba TiTqmis aRar
borCalouri, qvemo qarTlSi aris.
naqsovi xaliCebi iyo.
Jurnalistikis ganviTareiq ramdenime azerbaijanu- basac xelisufleba uwyobs
li tomi cxovrobs, romle- xels. 2013 wels 200-mde
bic damaxasiaTebeli ornamen- Jurnalists, romlebsac mutebiT qsoven xaliCebs.
Saobis 10 welze meti gamocuaxloes xanebSi vapirebT dileba da staJi hqondaT, biTbilisSi gavxsnaT xaliCebis
rewvis centri~.
batoni vidadi muradovi aRniSnavs, rom saxelmwifo yvelanairad exmareba
warmoebis gafarToebas, SedarebiT mcire gadasaxadebi
xels uwyobs xaliCebis warmoeba azerbaijanis regionebsa da TviT soflebSic ki gaSalos.
sainteresoa, rom sorosis
da msgavsi dasavluri fondebi azerbaijanSi fexs ver
ikideben.
centralur gamzirze SexvdebiT uzarmazar feSenebelur Senobebs warweriT _
* * *
oTxi dRe arc ise bevria,
Tumca arc ise cota, rom Seafaso da gadaafaso raRacraRacebi.
ai, isev `wiTeli xidi~.
vuRimi Cvens mebaJeebs.
romlebic, samwuxarod, Zalian daZabuli, gayinuli mzeriT gvTxoven piradobis mowmobebs.
mikvirs, rom ar iRimebian
azerbaijaneli mebaJeebis msgavsad...
ras izam, albaT, saqme moiTxovs...
sabaJoze mkacri kontrolia. CanTas Sesamowmeblad
vawvdi.
_ aqeT mobrZandiT, Tqven,
mgoni, kontrabanda gadagaqvT.
daRlili Zlivs mivlaslaseb Semowmebis oTaxSi. ikribeba, daaxloebiT, xuTi mebaJe, alageben Cems nivTebs da
wignis furclebsac ki saguldagulod Slian mkacri
da agdebuli toniT.
procedura naxevar saaTs
grZeldeba.
mebaJe nino gansakuTrebiT
agresiulia da Tumca mSve-
studentebi
konferencia sruldeba da
Cvenc TbilisSi dabrunebas
vapirebT.
gamosamSvidobebeli saRamo Zalian guliTadia da megobruli. azerbaijanuli qababi, baqlava da xalxuri
simRerebi... qarTvelebis ufro metad gasamxiaruleblad
`Cito-gvritos~ mRerian.
Cvenc vepatiJebiT _ CamodiT saqarTveloSi, _ veubnebiT. qalebs yvavilebs gvCuqnian, gvexumrebian da gveubnebian: oRond cxare da mware
saWmelebi ar iyos!..
asker ahmedi, romelsac baTumSi loriebi hyavs
megobrebi, am zafxuls Camosvlas gvpirdeba da saukeTeso
survilebiT gvacilebs.
* * *
saqarTvelos vuaxlovdebiT.
nivrad vici, CanTaSi araviTari kontrabanda ar midevs,
sakuTar TavSi eWvi mepareba.
Cemo qveyanav, Sens sazianod me sxva qveynidan kenWsac
ar wamoviReb! _ vfiqrob da
guli mwydeba, rom saqarTvelos sazRvarze mebaJe adamianadac ar mTvlis...
_ Caalage! _ mkacrad meubnebian da dasZenen: wabrZandiT.
saSinlad daTrgunuli valageb da saqarTvelos miwaze vdgam fexs...
vimedovneb, rom kidev vestumrebi Cvens mezoblebs...
madloba azerbaijanel maspinZlebs, `cecxlovani qveynis~ Svilebs...
san seviram, azerbaijan!
iranda kalandaZe
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7 maisi, 2015 w.
12 saerTo gazeTi
„jorjian uoTer end faueriT“ ar davinteresdebodi,
rom ara gaxSirebuli wylis
mowodebis Sewyveta, Tbilisis sxvadasxva quCebisTvis,
cxel xazze dakavSirebasac
didi Zalisxmeva sWirdeba. Tu
daukavSirdi iseT pasuxs miiRebT, gaocebuli da imedgacruebuli darCebiT. ori quCis
iqiT, dazianebaa da wylis miwodeba amitom Sewydao, SeiZleba 5 quCis dacilebiT iyos
dazianeba da wylis miwodebis
Sewyvetis mizezi gaxdes. arada, aRniSnul kompanias ambicia aqvs, rom saqarTvelos
wyalmomaragebis bazarze wamyvani kompaniaa da Tbilisisa
da misi Semogarenis mosaxleobas, saxelmwifo organizaciebs, samrewvelo da komerciul obieqtebs maRali xarisxis momsaxureobas uwevs. ambicia, rom aqvT ra uWirs,
magram ra xdeba sinamdvileSi?
jer kidev 2012 wels „jorjian uoTer faueris“ muSaobiT ukmayofilo adamianebs
feisbuq gverdi SeuqmniaT. aRniSnuli kompaniis winaaRmdeg
frTiani frazebi ki uxvad gaumetebiaT... feisbuq gverdis
SeqmniT ukmayofilo `jorjian uoTer faueris“ kompaniam
„netgazeTs“ ganucxada, rom
yalbi (!) gverdi maT uflebebs laxavs, Tumca amaze reagirebis berketi ar gaaCniaT
sainteresoa,
mosaxleobis
uflebebis Selaxvaze an berketebze fiqrobs vinme am qveyanaSi? mokled, socialur
qselSi „jorjian uoTer faueris-maqebari ver movZebne,
maginebeli ki uamravi .„wyali
gamouSviT farCakebo“ _ `abaSiZeze talaxi gamouSviT dasalevad?“ - „jorjian uoTer
end faueri“ - TaRliTi kompania!
„jorjian uoTer end faueris” mier mosaxleobisTvis
sasmeli wylis gaufrTxileblad gaTiSvebs sistemuri xasiaTi aqvs. kompaniis mier feisbukze gamoqveynebuli gancxadebebi imis Taobaze Tu
drois ra monakveTSi SeiZleba Seuwydes an aRudges Tbilisis ama Tu im ubans wyalmomarageba, umeteswilad ar
Seesabameba simarTles.kompaniis am gancxadebis miuxedavad
didi diRmis dasaxlebas, 8 aprils wyalmomarageba nacvlad
dilis 10 saaTisa, dilis 6
saaTze Seuwyda da am wuTebamde, dilis 11 saaTi) wyalmomarageba ar aRmdgara. da es,
ar aris erTeuli SemTxveva.
kompaniis cxeli xazi ki momxmareblisTvis sistematurad
miuwvdomelia. „cxelma xazma
droebiT Sewyvita muSaoba,
radgan aRara aqvT Tqveni gi-
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
`wyalSi vdgavar,
cecxli mikidia...~
nebis mosmenis Tavi“aseTi
frTiani sityvebi uxvad moiZebneba kompaniis misamarTiT.
maS ase kohabitaciis kidev
erTi faqti. rasakvirvelia
davinteresdi vis ekuTvnoda
aRniSnuli kompania,”saerTaSoriso gamWirvaloba_ saqarTvelos“friad
saintereso
kvlevebs
wavawydi.kompania
„jorjian uoTer end faueri“
britaneTis virjiniis kunZulebze daregistrirebul ofSorul subieqts „jorjian
global iuTiliTiz“-s ekuTvnis (yofili „multipleqs
enerji limitedi“). Tavad
„jorjian global iuTiliTiz“-s ori aqcioneri hyavs
da orive, rogorc irkveva,
fiqtiuri ofSoruli kompaniaa. sajaro reestris dokumentebSi beneficiari mesakuTreebi ar fiqsirdeba,-. kavSirebi rusul kompaniebTan -saqarTvelos sajaro reestris
uaxles CanawerebSi „jorjian
global iuTiliTiz“-is direqtorad sami piri figurirebs: goCa megreliZe, mixail
tuzovi da vladimir kozini.
am ukanasknelis biznes interesebis Sesaxeb informacia
sajaro wyaroebSi ar moipoveba, xolo danarCeni ori piri
(goCa megreliZe da mixail
tuzovi) sxvadasxva
dros
„inter raos“ Svilobil kompaniebSi
muSaobda. „inter
rao“ rusuli energo kompaniaa, romelic saqarTveloSi
„Telassa“ da kidev sam eleqtrosadgurs (mtkvari, xrami
1 da xrami 2) flobs. privatizaciisas „inter raos“
warmoSobiT ukraineli biznesmeni
andrei
rapaporti
marTavda. amJamad rapaporti
anatoli Cubaisis mmarTvelo-
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.ge
ze
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-z
baSi myofi rusuli saxelmwifo kompania rusnano-s aRmasrulebeli sabWos Tavmjdomaris moadgilea. mas GWP-Tan
kavSiri arasodes daudasturebia, mixail tuzovi andrei
rapaportis didi xnis partnioria. ruseTis saialqno
klubis saitze mis Sesaxeb
ganTavsebul informaciaSi mixeil tuzovi ÎÀÎ ÐÀÎ ÅÝÑ
Ðîññèè-s (romelsac reformis Sedegad „inter rao” gamoeyo) yofil TanamSromlad
saxeldeba. tuzovi da rapoporti ruseTis mier qveynis
eleqtroresursebis marTvis
„jorjian uoTer end faueris“ direqtorad dainiSna.
megreliZe da gaCeCilaZe erToblivad floben Sps „Sardeni 11“-s. GWP-is sakuTrebis Taobaze arsebuli ufro
adreuli kvlevebi gvafiqrebinebs, rom giorgi gaCeCilaZe
da misi biznes partniori levan kaWarava aseve iyvnen CarTulni privatizaciaSi: mwvane
alternativis 2010 wlis angariSSi aRniSnulia, rom
mTavrobam SveicariaSi daregistrirebuli
subieqti
„multipleqs
soluSensi“
privatizaciis procesSi ga-
mizniT Seqmnili saxelmwifo
kompaniis F direqtorTa sabWos wevrebic iyvnen.
goCa
megreliZe 2000-2003 wlebSi
saxelmwifo
kancelariaSi
fiskaluri politikisa da sagareo ekonomikuri urTierTobebis ganyofilebis ufrosad muSaobda, xolo 2004
wels ekonomikis ministris
moadgile iyo. „inter raos“
2007 wlis finansuri aqtivebis angariSSi goCa megreliZe
„inter raos“ TurqeTSi moqmedi erT-erTi Svilobili
kompaniis
gamgeobis wevrad
saxeldeba. saocaria rogori
kacTmoyvare da humanuri xelisufleba gvyavs aba miSas
dros gamilionerebul elitarul kriminalebs xom ar
CaaCoCebdnen?“ Cvenebi ariano
da miuSves sabalaxod Tan ra
„Caxutebulebi yoliaT rusebs. ekonomikis yofili ministri da goCa megreliZis
yofili ufrosi giorgi gaCeCilaZe 2014 wlis aprilSi
marjvebulad gamoacxada. kompaniam wylis sadistribucio
qselis reabilitaciaSi 350
milioni dolaris investiciis ganaxorcielebis valdebuleba aiRo. organizacia aRniSnavda, rom „multipleqs
soluSenss“
saqarTveloSi
daregistrirebuli Svilobili kompania hyavda, romelsac
sxvadasxva dros giorgi gaCeCilaZe da levan kaWarava xelmZRvanelobdnen. 2009 wlis
ivlisidan dekembramde kompaniis direqtoris movaleobas
soflis meurneobis yofili
ministri Salva fifia asrulebda, soflis meurneobis
saministros vebgverdze ganTavsebul mis biografiaSi ki
miTiTebulia, rom 2008-2009
wlebSi
fifia Multiplex
Holding Group-is finansuri
direqtori iyo. sajaro reestris monacemTa bazaSi arsebuli privatizaciis xelSekrulebidan irkveva, rom GWP
Sveicarulma
„multipleqs
soluSensma“ ki ar iyida, aramed britaneTis virjiniis
kunZulebze daregistrirebulma „multipleqs enerji
limitedma“. es garemoeba gvafiqrebinebs, rom „multipleqs soluSensi“ mTavrobam
yuradRebis gadatanis mizniT
gamoiyena, rom SeumCneveli gaexada privatizaciis procesSi britaneTis virjiniis kunZulebze daregistrirebuli
supieqtis monawileoba. media
saSualebebis
cnobiT, „tilikas” metsaxeliT cnobili
levan kaWarava „silqroud
jgufis~ ukan mdgomi ZiriTadi aqcioneris giorgi ramiSvilis megobari iyo. kaWarava
da ramiSvili marTlac arian
biznes partniorebi ramdenime
kompaniaSi, kerZod, „ol sizons rizortsSi“ da Sps
k.l.g-Si. imavdroulad isini
ss „sastumro iveriis” (redisoni) gamgeobis wevrebic arian. „multipleqs soluSensis“
misamarTi JenevaSi Place de la
Fusterie 9 –11 (Place de la
Fusterie 9 – 11) iyo (Sveicariis biznes reestrSi Tavdapirvelad kompaniis misamarTad es mdebareoba iyo miTiTebuli, Tumca amJamad kompania aRar iZebneba). „silq roud jgufis“ saitidan vgebulobT, rom am kompaniasac aqvs
ofisi SveicariaSi, romelic
Silk road Group (Suisse) SA-is
saxeliTaa registrirebuli.
es ofisi imave misamarTze
mdebareobs, romelzec adre
„multipleqs soluSensi“ iyo
registrirebuli, anu: Jeneva,
plas de la fusteri 9 –11.
metic, „multipleqs soluSensac“ da Silk road Group
(Suisse) SA-sac erTi da igive direqtori iorg (Jrg)
ioneri hyavdaT. miuxedavad
imisa, rom TavisTavad aRniSnuli kompaniis mflobelebis
ofSorSi registracia ar
warmoadgens saqarTvelos kanonmdeblobis
darRvevas,
vfiqrobT, rom sazogadoebisTvis saintereso iqneboda
codnoda amgvari strategiuli obieqtebis mflobelTa
vinaoba.sainteresoa 350milioni dolaris invensticia,
romelic wylis sadistribucio qselis reabilitacias
unda moxmareboda vis an ras
moxmarda? - `problemebis aRmofxvris mizniT, aucilebelia damatebiT axali milsadenebis damontaJeba, radganac
sistemis gaumarTaoba swored
jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris
dros damontaJebuli milebis
mwyobridan gamosvliT aris
ganpirobebeuli“, – ganacxada
`jorjian uoTer end faueris~ generalurma direqtorma anu ra gamodis, 350 milioni dolaris invensticiaSi
milebic ar gamoucvliaT?
qeTevan zarnaZe
saerTo gazeTi 13
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
arkadi mamontovis filmi
`sodomi~ cota xnis win rusuli teleeTeriT gavida da
dReisaTvis ukve milionobiT
adamians aqvs nanaxi (sxvadasxva enebze Targmnili versiebic aris internetSi).
vnaxoT, ra xdeba filmSi,
razea saubari, am SemTxvevaSi
ra saxis `mavneblobis~ `propagandas~ ewevian rusuli televiziebi?
filmi mkvdari zRvis CvenebiT iwyeba da Tan sdevs
teqsti miTiuri bibliuri qalaqebis, sodomisa da gomoris Sesaxeb, sadac garyvnileba _
homoseqsualizmi,
lesboseloba da pedofilia,
faqtobrivad, normad iyo
qceuli... mas Semdeg 4 000
weli gavida
amonaridebi:
`mas Semdeg 4 000 weli
gavida, magram sisxlmowyurebuli demoni axlac nTqavs
axalgazrdebsa da bavSvebs,
xdeba biwierebis kultivireba da iRebs axal saxels _
lgbt...
skot lavli, amerikeli iuristi, homoseqsualebisTvis #1 mteri aSS-Si,
xsnis rogor aris ganawilebuli homoseqsualizmis ganviTareba-xelSewyobis etapebi: _ `es aris xuTi etapi.
yvelaferi iwyeba tolerantobidan. rogorc ki geebi sazogadoebisgan tolerantobis umaRles damokidebulebas miaRweven, iwyeba meore
etapi _ Tanasworoba; mas
mosdevs mesame etapi _aRiareba; Semdeg _ CarTva-monawileoba `gei-kulturaSi~ da
bolos, sasjeli, anu unda
daisajos yvela, vinc ar iziarebs gei-Sexedulebebs.
yofili sabWoTa kavSiris
respublikebidan ruseTi imyofeba yvelaze dabal safexurze, anu rusuli sazogadoebisgan jer mxolod tolerantobas iTxoven. amitom
aris, rom ruseTSi homoseqsualizmis problemas jer
ver xedaven, magram, realurad, problemebi axla iwyeba.
es hgavs marcvals, romelsac
miwaSi agdeb gasaRiveblad _
es aris antidiskriminaciuli
politika, romelsac sworeba
aqvs e.w seqsualur orientaciaze. aSS-Si gei-sazogadoebis kritika ukve danaSaulia...
saSualo
statistikiT,
amerikeli negatiurad aris
ganwyobili homoseqsualizmis mimarT, magram amis xmamaRla Tqmis eSinia, radgan
imdenad didia homoseqsualebis raodenoba mTavrobaSi,
rom advilad SeuZliaT rame
dauSavon. Mamerikelebma ician, rom Tu xmamaRla ityvian
imas, rasac fiqroben homoseqsualizmis Sesaxeb, mas moZebnian da mkacrad dasjian.
adamianis uflebaTa damcveli organizaciis mTavari
ofisi, HUMAN RIGHTC
CAMPAIGN _ es aris organizacia, romelic homoseqsu-
alizmis yvelaze didi da
amasTanave, mrisxane mxardamWeria. mTel msoflioSi irRveva adamianTa uflebebi, amcireben, devnian, klaven, magram aRniSnuli organizacia,
nacvlad imisa, rom adamianebs
daexmaron Selaxuli uflebebis aRdgenaSi, mxolod
imisTvis iRvwian, rom `homoseqsualizmis programam~ ganviTareba hpovos mTel msoflioSi...~
londonSi mdebareobs tavistokskis `adamianur orTi-
logiis Sedegebi, radgan dRes
ukve SesaZlebelia adamianis
Seqmna laboratoriaSi ise,
rom aRar aris aucilebeli qalisa da mamakacis bunebrivi
Serwyma. saWiroa arsebis Seqmna, rac dadis iqamde, rom arsebas eqneba ara mxolod qalisa da mamakacis geni, aramed kidev sami adamianis mdgavsi arsebis, romelsac SeuZlia adamianis mocema. `msoflio elitis~ mizania, rom genetikuri
manipulaciis Sedegad moispos
genetikuri mexsiereba.~
xebSi da es mxolod dasawyisia _ cneba dedis nacvlad
gaCnda Semcvleli, biokonteineri...
msoflios yvela qveynis
amerikul saelCoSi aris instruqcia, romelic iZleva instrumentebs, rogor unda
Secvalo im qveynis kultura;
ra unda moimoqmedo, rom
Secvalo Rirebulebebis sistema; asea mTel msoflioSi,
ris ukanac Zalian didi fulia, Cveni planetis miliarderebis fuli...~
Zelda. es qalbatoni cdilobda moveWkvianebine imiT, ra
aris `dasavluri Rirebulebebi~, magram ar gamouvida...
evrokomisrebi, romlebic
CvenTan Camodiodnen, Riad
gveubnebodnen, rom isini mogvcemdnen liberalur savizo
reJims, sanacvlod ki Cven
unda migveRo antidiskriminaciuli kanoni. kanoni iTvaliswinebs, rom aratradiciuli seqsualuri orientaciis adamianebs SeuZliaT imuSaon sabavSvo baRebSi, skolebSi, armiaSi, eklesiaSi da
a.S. anu gasagebia, rom `dasavleTis elita~ qmnis da aRvivebs Zalian Zlier, mZlavr
Zalas msoflioSi, romlis
msxverpli Tu nawili ukve
gaxda moldova tradiciuli
Rirebulebebis dangrevaSi...~
2011 weli. 6 dekemberi.
vaSingtoni. TeTri saxli.
presmdivnis ofisi. saswrafod! gasavrceleblad! muSaoba adamianis _ lgbt pirebis
_ uflebaTa dacvisTvis! es
aris msoflio davaleba!
sodomi
erTobaTa instituti~. am institutis TanamSromlebis
saqmianoba mkacrad gasaidumloebulia, Tumca mainc gamoiZebna adamiani, romelic
mniSvnelovan informac. ias
flobs, _ daniel iestulini,
avtori wignisa `tavistokskis instituti~
daniel iestulini: _
`Tavdapirvelad, es iyo klinika, me-2 msoflio omis Semdeg ki gadakeTda institutad. memorandumi xelmowerilia rokfelerebis ojaxsa
da general jon rolings
Soris. xelSekrulebis mixedviT, Tanamedrove sazogadoeba unda Seicvalos, sxva
sityvebiT rom vTqvaT, yvelaferi, rac da rogorc warmogvidgenia sazogadoebasTan
dakavSirebiT, unda Seicvalos. aq iqna gamogonili da
moedo evropas axali kulturologiuri
aqcentebi,
iseTebi, rogoricaa: Tavisufali siyvaruli, suingerebi,
samoqalaqo qorwineba da a.S
cru-sTan erTad institutSi SemuSavebuli iqna
programa adamianTa cnobierebis manipulirebisa. proeqtebi, romelTa realizeba xdeba
axla, magaliTad, programa _
homoseqsualizmi, Cafiqrebulia ara 5-10 wlis win, aramed jer kidev me-2 msoflio
omamde.
Tavdapirvelad umravlesoba arian qalebi da kacebi, Semdeg iqnebian homoseqsualebi,
transseqsualebi, Semdeg _
transadamianebi da Semdeg ukve postadamianebi... iqnebian
adamiani-robotebi, rogorc
terminatorebi, kiborgebi. iqnebian ara 100%-iani adamianebi, aramed sinTetikuri bio-
jefri stainbergi,
los-anJelesis klinikis (institutis) mTavari eqimi, romelTac pirvelma SesTavazes
wyvilebs surogatuli dedoba: _ `Cven SegviZlia avirCioT ra sqesis iyos bavSvi. xedavT failebs, maTgan cisferi
failebi biWebisaa, vardisferi _ gogoebis, mwvane _ genetikurad defeqtianebis, daunis sindromis mqoneebis... es
planetaze
homoseqsualizmis gavrcelebis ideas
aSS ukve aRar malavs...
iuri roSka, moldovas
yofili vice-premieri, romelmac ukan ar daixia Tavis
qveyanaSi
homoseqsualur
lobisTan da amJamad gankicxulia dasavleTeli emisrebis mier: _ `rodesac mzaddeboda gei-paradis Catareba,
ki spermis konteinerebia. es
gayinuli embrionia _ konteinerebi gadavsebulia... gvaqvs
gayinuli sperma da gayinuli
kvercxujredebi, roca maT
vaerTebT, viRebT embrions,
yvela maTgani sxvadasxvaa da
sxvadasxva kategoriis. didi
ambavi Tu bavSvebs arasodes
eyolebaT deda!~
dReisaTvis 2 mln bavSvi
izrdeba erTsqesianTa oja-
movawyve konferencia, sadac
mkveTrad gamovxate Cemi damokidebuleba da protesti.
ar gasula erTi saaTi da
aSS-is saelCodan daireka. meore piri rekavda, qalbatoni
daria feini. man miTxra, axlave midio _ Cemi 25-wliani
moRvaweobis manZilze pirvelad iyo, rom aseTi rangis
diplomati imwamsve iTxovda
Sexvedras. Cveni arasasiamovno saubari oTx saaTs gagr-
Tbilisi. 2013 weli. geiparadis sawinaaRmdego demonstracia. aq ar aris dokumentebi da instruqcia, romlis
mixedviTac, mixeil saakaSvilma, amerikis marionetma,
gamoiyena 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi da sastikad dasaja saqarTvelos mosaxleobis 7,5 %
mamakaci...
filmSi naCvenebia gldanis
cixis kadrebi, mis paralelurad abu-greibis cixis
kadrebi, romelsac sdevs
teqsti (kadrSi, cixis kamerebis fonze mcire ganmartebas iZleva levan gogiCaiSvili): _ `saakaSvilis reJimis
mowinaaRmdegeebze, raTa gaetexaT maTi neba, Zaladobdnen
maTze. 330 000 adamianma gaiara es wameba da yvelaferi
fiqsirdeboda kamerebiT. mizani iyo erTi _ adamiani eqciaT mokankale pirutyvad.
patimris wameba, gaupatiureba _ es meTodika aRebuli
iyo amerikuli cixidan, abugreibidan... qarTvelisTvis
aseTi daSveba (gaupatiurebg.C) sikvdilis tolfasia...
igive elodeba yvelas ukrainaSi... amerikuli xuntis reJimi igive iqneba ukrainis
izolatorebsa da cixeebSi.
axla iq aTasobiT patimaria
kievidan odesamde da ra moeliT, mxolod RmerTma icis!..
uflisgan dalocvili qalisa da mamakacis kavSiri iZleva Sanss rom kacobrioba
gadarCes!..~
saSineli realobaa is,
rac mamontovis dokumetur
filmSia naCvenebi, magram es
filmi, albaT, yvelam unda
naxos...
giorgi CxeiZe
14 saerTo gazeTi
ratomRac yvelas egona, rom
Temis saxeli bia xilis saxelwodebisgan modioda. magram ukvirdaT, rom komSi Tu bia, rogorc mas megrul-imeruli tomebi moixseniebdnen, aq arc xarobda da arc moipoveboda da amdenad, gaugebari iyo, es saxeli
ratom unda darqmeoda am RvTis
sauflo sanaxebs.
Zneli iyo adamisnebisTvis
maT maxsovrobaSi aTaswleulebis miRma daleqili movlenebis
mogoneba. Soreul warsulSi ki,
Zalian didi xnis winaT, aq gamoiara qalRmerTma biam, romelmac
zevsis davalebiT kavkasionis qedze miajaWva promeTe, miuCina
mas modaraje razmebi da mZime
movaleobis Sesrulebisgan ukan
mobrunebulma, daRlilma daisvena zustad iq, sadac odiTgan salocavi _ oxvame iyo agebuli.
aqedan xelisgulze moCanda lamazi da Tvaluwvdeneli egrisi,
egrebis qveyana, romelsac Semdeg
kolxeTad moixseniebdnen berZnebi. dasvenebis adgils ki SemorCa qalRmerTis saxeli _ bia.
idumalebiT moculma warsulma daviwyebis saburveli gadaafara momxdars da is daviwyebas mieca, saxeli bia ki saukuneebs SemorCa qvaSi amokveTil
RvTis wyalobad. dauZinebeli
mtrebi iSviaTad Tu bedavdnen am
viwro da gauvali tyeebiTa da
ekal-bardebiT dafaruli adgilebis gadalaxvas, sadac gautexeli, bedTan Seurigebeli adamianebi cxovrobdnen.
saukuneebis
ganmavlobaSi
qalRmerTi bia da misi saqme daviwyebas mieca, magram adgils,
sofels misi saxeli SerCa.
esec legenda, rasac mosdevs
sinamdvile.
vinc erTxel naxa, ra daaviwyebs mas zemo biis mTavarangelozis eklesias _ saydars, axla oxvames _ salocavs rom
uwodebs mrevli. kolxeTsa da
kavkasions Soris, urTas mTis
gagrZelebaze, yvelaze maRal
gorze rom wamomarTula lamaz
gvirgvinad. saTuTad uvlida da
mokrZalebiT miapyrobda imedian
mzeras mas mrevli _ aleqsandriebi da abSilavebi, xarebavebi
da gvaliebi, lipartiebi da qoraiebi, Raduebi da belqaniebi,
iosavebi da Soniebi.
baridan gza xobisa da nojixis gagrZelebaze, RarRulas
viwroebidan
mTavarangelozis
mTis _ oxvames ferdis gverdis
avliT, zemo biidan bia saSonioSi eSveboda, saidanac gadalaxavda xobis wyals da xibulas gavliT zemo mTis samegreloSi _
lakadaSi gadadioda.
zemo bia da bia saSonio iyo
gzis Camketi. hoda, aqaurebi
ufro Tavisuflebi, ufro gabedulebi da daumorCileblebi
gaxldnen. bedi da mdgomareoba
maT did movaleobas _ momxvdurTaTvis gzis Caketvas avalebda. bolos es movaleoba
omer faSas SemoWris dros
aRasrules, rodesac yovelnairad SeuSales xeli safafios
golasTan dabanakebul Turqis
jaris zemo samegreloSi SemoWras. rasakvirvelia, aq sxva garemoebebmac Tavisi roli Seasrula, magram adgilobrivi xalxis daumorCilebloba da mzadyofna, Sebmodnen Semoseul
duSmans, gadamwyveti faqtori
Seiqmna, rom xeli aeRo mas
mtruli garemocvis lakadaSi
Semosevisgan. zemo bia da bia
saSonio iyo momxvdurisagan
erT-erTi gzis Camketi.
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
eklesiis da qveynis damcvelebi cxovrobdnen aq odiTgan.
moZalebuli iyo maTSi rwmena da Zala, Tavganwirva da gamZleoba TanamoZmeTa gadarCenisaTvis.
icoda es dadianma, rodesac
1492 wels aqedan Svidi ojaxi,
maT Soris, Soniebi Caiyvana da
daasaxla biWvinTaSi eklesiis
dasacavad. maTve evalebodaT weliwadSi samjer sanTlis danTeba. ubraloni ki ar iyvnen, janic
hqondaT da rwmenac, SeeZloT
daecvaT eklesia, daenToT sanTeli da aRevlinaT locva RmerTisadmi.
samegrelos samTavros gauqmebisa da rusuli mmarTvelobis
SemoRebis Semdeg sofeli zug-
qceva dablar venaxs da 24 saxnavs flobda, aseve iosava daTikia da Sevardeni. sakmaod didi
miwis mflobelebi iyvnen bigvavebi, sikoia, Temuryva, WiTaSvilebi _ utu da daviTi, Soniebi _
gigi, pepu, lazarika, siko da
zurab kvaSilavebi ki 460 qceva
miwas flobdnen.
magram aranakleb sainteresoa
is, rom saeklesio (saxelmwifo)
glexebze met miwebs flobdnen
sabatono glexebi. Tavad CiCuas
glexi baxva Radua 450 saxnavs
da562
qceva
maRlar-venaxs
flobda. aseve didi miwis farTobebis mflobelebi iyvnen Tavad CiCuas glexebi: WiTaSvili
besiki, aznaur beCuna salayaias
glexi _ beJan xurcia, aznaur
es mere gamoCnda, Turme sxva Tavisi saqmisTvis rom gvabrZolebda. rogorc monRolebis, sparselebis, Turqebis saqmeebs ewirebodnen maSindeli qarTvelebi,
ise Seewirnen komunisturi ruseTis miznebs. qudze kaci iyo
gamosuli am patara Temidan da
ibrZoles kidevac. gawveuli 156
kacidan 88 Seewira am oms, kanonisa da qveynis erTgulni:
brZolis velze daecnen oTxi
WiTaSvili, xuTi aleqsandria,
eqvsi Radua, rva bigvava, rva
TuTberiZe, cameti Sonia, 21
iosava. omSi daiRupnen iosavebis
gvaridan Zmebi baliko da valeriane, petre da koki, evsevi da
JorJi, kalistrate da vladimeri. Soniebi _ kapitoni da oTa-
Cemi sofeli
qalRmerTis saxeliT
(legenda da sinamdvile)
didis mazris SemadgenlobaSi
aRmoCnda.
1871 wlamde bielebis umravlesoba, gansakuTrebiT ki zemo
bielebi da miT umetes, bia saSonios mkvidrni, cxovrobdnen saeklesio miwebze da iyvnen saeklesio glexebi. maTTvis ucxo
iyo mebatonisadmi ymoba da morCileba. gamomdinare aqedan ki
Rirsebis Semlaxavi wesebiT
cxovreba.
1871 wels saeklesio miwebi
gadaeca xazinas da, saTanadod,
eklesiis glexebi gaxdnen saxelmwifo glexebi. maSindeli monacemebiT, saqarTveloSi xazinas
gadaeca 120 mln. maneTis qoneba,
maSin, rodesac eklesiebis rCena
jdeboda 2 mln maneTi. amaze aSkara yaCaRoba iSviaTad Tu moiZebneba msoflioSi. es rusuli
imperiuli mmarTvelobis `Sedevrad~ rCeba msoflio istoriaSi.
1873 wlis monacemebiT, glexebi garkveuli miwis nakveTebs
flobdnen ijariT, arcTu ise
mcire iyo maTi kuTvnili miwis
farTi.
1873 wels iose Sonia da misi Svilebi flobdnen 76 qceva
miwas. sakmao miwis mflobelebi
iyvnen iosava bekoia, romelic 45
rostom loluas glexze, babukoci aleqsandriaze ricxuli
iyo 800 qceva saxnavi miwa. ise
ar unda gavigoT, rom cxovreba
saamuri hqondaT bielebs, bevri
iyo mciremiwianic da visac miwa
hqonda, mas dasamuSaveblad jojoxeTuri Sroma uwevda.
meomari da morwmuneni yofilan odiTgan bielebi. mterTan
Seurigebloba da RvTis rwmena
yofila maTi cxovrebis wesi, rasac Tavisa da ojaxis rCenisTvis
titanuri Sroma axlda.
saukuneebiT yalibdeboda bielebis sabrZolo tradicia. me-19
saukuneSi dadianis laSqarSi
osmalebis winaaRmdeg bevrma bielma gamoiCina Tavi. gansakuTrebuli vaJkacoba gamoiCines pirveli msoflio omis frontze bielebma, biidan gawveuli iyo aTze
meti vaJkaci. wminda giorgis
jvriT iyvnen dajildoebuli kalistrate Radua da samson bigvava, xolo grigol bigvava wminda giorgis ori jvris kavaleri
gaxda.
soflis mkvidrTa sabrZolo
suli gansakuTRebiT gamovlinda
meore msoflio omSi, romelic
maSin, rogorc qveynisTvis, aseve
bielebisTvis samamulo omi iyo.
ri, Zeki da dianozi, aleqsandriebi _ kvebe da kolia, sami Zma
TuTberiZe _ kapitoni, irodi da
estate, bigvava _ jogo da ipolite.
brZolaSi daeca diviziis
Stabis ufrosi, saqarTvelos
kavSirgabmulobis saxalxo komisris moadgile zinobi Sonia.
sainteresod warimarTa lusion
Sonias bedi _ is omis pirvelive dReebSi tyved Cavarda, Semdeg
gaiqca da SeuerTda italiel
partizanebs, sadac is italielebis sayvareli gmiri gaxda.
omidan dabrunebuli Tavis ojaxTan erTad Sua aziaSi gadaasaxles.
SinmousvlelTa sia naTlad
metyvelebs saqarTvelos am patara soflis tragediaze.
ai, isinic:
Sinmousvlel bielTa sia, dazustebuli 1989 wels (rigiToba daculia daR
Rupvis Sesaxeb mosuli Setyobinebebis drois mixedviT)::
bigvava silovan meseilis Ze
iosava sara grigoris Ze
iosava valiko zalikas Ze
iosava valeriane zalikas Ze
TuTberiZe kolia egnates Ze
TuTberiZe lukiane onisimes Ze
TuTberiZe parmeni onisimes Ze
Radua ladi jaos Ze
baraSvili irodi jondis Ze
Sonia iliko basas Ze
Sonia kapitoni aleqsis Ze
Sonia oTari aleqsis Ze
Sonia evgeni filus Ze
Sonia Zeke gaxunias Ze
Sonia dianozi gaxus Ze
Sonia aristano artemis Ze
CubiniZe alioSa giorgis Ze
salayaia kalistrate ijanjas Ze
xarebava Teufane iosebis Ze
Serozia vladimeri beglaris Ze
farRalava ladi arCilis Ze
gvalia levan maqsimes Ze
lipartia valeriane arCilis Ze
qajaia kolia solomonis Ze
aleqsandria jvebe ivlionis Ze
aleqsandria nove markozis Ze
lomsaZe vaso lavrentis Ze
iosava alioSa iakobis Ze
Sonia duru kondrates Ze
Sonia miza zaqarias Ze
dolbaZe sara gvadis Ze
Todua biqtori tarasis Ze
WiTaSvili amirani ermines Ze
WiTaSvili Teodoti isidores Ze
TuTberiZe kapitoni besas Ze
TuTberiZe prokopi kalistrates Ze
TuTberiZe estate besarionis Ze
TuTberiZe irodi besarionis Ze
TuTberiZe diomide ionas Ze
bigvava JorJi grigoris Ze
bigvava irodi ilarionis Ze
bigvava abrami nikolozis Ze
bigvava griSa besarionis Ze
bigvava amirani besarionis Ze
iosava kapiton berdes Ze
rekvava ivane iosebis Ze
iosava valodia vasilis Ze
iosava akaki grigoris Ze
iosava artemi besarionis Ze
iosava ladi mixas Ze
iosava petre vasilis Ze
iosava kika vasilis Ze
Radua iona vladimeris Ze
iosava valeriane lavrentis Ze
bigvava jogo gudus Ze
bigvava ipolite gudus Ze
Serozia kolia ivanes Ze
qaquTia buta ivanes Ze
kvaSilava noe petres Ze
alania griSa grigoris Ze
WiTaSvili arvelodi Teimurazis Ze
Radua noe akakis Ze
WiTaSvili nikolozo nikolozis Ze
Sonia parTeni mixeilis Ze
iosava levarsi sogratis Ze
iosava eqvsevi paxulis Ze
iosava kalistrate besarionis Ze
iosava vladimeri besarionis Ze
aleqsandria daTiko ivanes Ze
iosava kalistrate besarionis Ze
iosava vladimeri besarionis Ze
aleqsandria daTiko ivanes Ze
iosava jondi iakobis Ze
qoraia miro melitonis Ze
qoraia ilia ivanes Ze
Radua artemi petres Ze
pertaia vaso besas Ze
aleqsandria aleqsandre andronikes Ze
Radua ipolite solomonis Ze
cxomaria Salva tarasis Ze
daviTuliani parmeni oqruas Ze
torCinava kondrate ivanes Ze
iosava Teufane meTos Ze
qaquTia valiko besarionis Ze
iosava Sio besarionis Ze
Sonia zinobi dutus Ze
Radua irodi simonis Ze
Sonia apaloni melitonis Ze
maT Tavisi vali moixades
brZolis velze mterTan SejaxebaSi.
afxazeTi da samaCablo ki
davkargeT. saqarTvelos mTavarsardlebma _ jer SevardnaZem,
Semdeg ki saakaSvilma ver Sekra
erT muStad mterTan saomrad
qarTvelni. davmarcxdiT, sabolood saqarTvelo gaiyida da
adamianebi Tavis qveyanaSi devnilni gaxdnen.
Tavisi meomruli tradiciebisTvis arc Semdeg uRalatiaT
bielebs _ sad ar Cadgnen samxedro samsaxurSi da ibrZoles
_ gansakuTrebiT eraySi, avRaneTSi da Tavi ar SeurcxveniaT.
gamodis, rom magrebi varT
sxvis omSi.
magram es kidev sakiTxavia.
es istoriaa.
istoria ki ar unda daikargos.
grigol Sonia
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saerTo gazeTi 15
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
1970 welSi, davinaxavT, rom
israeli iyo erT-erTi yvelaze
pativsacemi qveyana msoflioSi.
bevrs moswonda is. axla ki is
erT-erT yvelaze arasimpaTiur
qveynad iTvleba msoflioSi. misi eSiniaT. 70-iani wlebis dasawyisSi israelma miiRo gadawyvetileba. maT arCevanis saSualeba hqondaT da maT gadawyvites gafarToebuliyo qveyana,
vidre hqonodaT simSvide. yovelive aman didi safrTxeebis winaSe daayena israeli. me vwerdi
maTze, amas sxvebic aRniSnavdnen.
roca miiCnev, rom qveynis gafarToeba ufro mTavaria, vidre
mSvidoba, es moitans qveynis
SigniT areulobebs, winaaRmdegobebs, agresias, izolacias da
SesaZloa, saboloo ganadgure-
sagangebo wameba. es niSnavs, rom
dapatimrebul adamians ugzavniT
Tqvens sayvarel diqtators _
asads, mubaraqs an kadafs, rom
maT awamon da Tqven miiRoT Sedegi. kvlevam aCvena, rom am saSinelebebSi axlo aRmosavleTis yvela diqtatori iRebda
monawileobas imitom, rom iq
gadahyavdaT eWvmitanilebi sawameblad TviT evropidanac ki. inglisidan, Sveciidan, sxva qveynebidan. erTaderTi qveyana ar
monawileobda amaSi. es iyo laTinuri amerika. moulodnelobaa, ara? magram yovelive es
moxda imis gamo, rom laTinuri
amerika mniSvnelovnad gamovida
aSS-is gavlenidan. roca is iyo
aSS-is kontrolqveS, wamebis
msoflio centrad iyo aRiare-
_ rodis Camoaweren saberZneTs valebs?
_ zustad ise, rogorc germanias 1953 wels, roca evropam
Camoawera germanias vali. ubralod, imisTvis, germanias rom
SeZleboda omis Sedegebisgan
Tavis daRweva.
_ sxva evropuli qveynebi?
_ maTac igive bedi eliT.
_ anu portugaliasac da espaneTsac Camoaweren?
_ vin unda daabrunos es valebi? isini xom diqtatorebma
daades qveynebs. saberZneTSi iyo
faSisturi diqtatura, romelsac aSS-i mfarvelobda. swored
mag dros daedo valebi saberZneTs. me vfiqrob, es valebi ufro binZuri fulia, vidre diqtatura. saerTaSoriso enaze
amas `odiozuri vali~ hqvia...
valebis didi nawili aris bankebis gadasaxadebi germanuli
da franguli bankebisTvis, romlebmac Zalian didi riskis fasad gasces procentiani kreditebi.
_ kidev erTi SekiTxva auditoriisgan: rogor miudgeba evropa ekzistencialur problemebs, romelsac Seejaxa _ ekonomikur kriziss, nacionalizms,
kulturul dacemas, rogor
uyurebT evropis transformacias?
_ evropa seriozuli problemebis winaSe dgas. problemebis nawili ekonomikuri politikis Sedegia, romelic briuselidan modis, evrokomisiidan,
natodan da msxvili bankebidan.
konkretulad germanuli bankebidan. erTi mxriv, maT surT
gascen sarisko investiciebi, raTa movale qveynebs SeeqmnaT safrTxe. saxelmwifoebis keTildReoba, simdidre da Zliereba
maT ar awyobT... meore problemad evropisTvis rasizmis problemaa. yovelTvis vgrZnobdi,
rom evropa ufro rasistuli
iyo, vidre aSS-i. es evropaSi
basac ki. aseT politikas mxars
uWers aSS. e. i. is xels uwyobs
israels daRupvaSi.
yvelaze saSineli teroristuli kampania msoflioSi vaSingtonidan
imarTeba. globaluri mkvlelobebis kampaniaa gaSlili. aseTi masStabis teroristuli
kampania
arasdros
yofila
msoflioSi.
_ ras gulisxmobT globalur mkvlelobebze rom saubrobT?
_ msoflios sxvadasxva qveyanaSi aSS-i sistematurad, Riad, ar arsebobs araviTari saidumlo da yvelam viciT amis
Sesaxeb, rom mimdinareobs adamianTa mospobis regularuli
buli. axla is aRar monawileobs msgavs saqmeebSi. evropa monawileobs. batonma brZana, msaxuri _ asrulebs.
_ evropa amerikis msaxuria?
_ isini mSiSrebi arian. amitom damoukideblad sityvas
ver Zraven.
_ Tu SevxedavT situacias
evropaSi, aris erTi saintereso
fenomeni. Cven vxedavT, rom saberZneTi aRmosavleTisken miiwevs. xedavT aq evropis interesebis daaxloebas ruseTTan?
_ saberZneTs aRar surs misi bedi briuselSi da germanul
bankebSi wydebodes. samuSao
aRar aris saberZneTSi, TiTqmis
40% siRaribis zRvarzea. saberZneTs angreven.
ufro SesamCnevi iyo, imitom,
rom evropelebi Tavs gansakuTrebul rasad miiCnevdnen, qerebi,
cisferi TvalebiT. magram axla
mosaxleobis garegnoba icvleba
da rasizmi ayvavebas iwyebs. es
seriozuli kulturuli problemaa evropasTvis.
...imedi unda viqonioT, rom
sabolood daiwyeba saxalxo
gamosvlebi, ganadgurebis, ekonomikis ngrevis, mZime socialuri politikis, biurokratizmisa da bankebis winaaRmdeg.
es maimedebs da es aucileblad
moxdeba.
moamzada
iranda kalandaZem
593 56 11 18
(ibeWdeba mciredi SemoklebiT)
noam xomski erT-eerTi mniSvnelovani figuraa msoflio inteleqtualur sazogadoebaSi.
filosofossa da lingvists, 86
wlis noam xomskis, asaki ar
uSlis xels iyos kvlavac angariSgasawevi da yvelaze Seurigebeli anarqisti. is kvlavac
aqtiurad ewinaaRmdegeba usamarTlobas dasavlur samyaroSi.
gTavazobT fragmentebs interviudan, romelic noam
xomskim `evroniuss~ misca.
_ 2015 weli Zalian mSfoTvare aRmoCnda, magram Tu mTlianobaSi SevxedavT, optimizms
grZnobT Tu pesimizms Seqmnil
situaciaSi?
_ globaluri TvalsazrisiT, ufskrulisken mivdivarT
da Rirseuli gadarCenis perspeqtivebi naklebia.
_ ra ufskrulia es?
_ SeiZleba iTqvas, ori saxis ufskrulis winaSe varT.
pirveli, es aris ekologiuri
katastrofa, romelic gardauvalia. Zalian cota dro dagvrCa, rom vecadoT da raime gamovasworoT. Cven gaurkveveli mimarTulebiT mivdivarT.
meore saSiSroeba aris birTvuli omi. Tu yuradRebiT daakvirdebiT am problemas, dainaxavT, rom Cven mxolod saswaulebrivad varT gadarCenilni am
saSinelebisgan.
_ modiT, yuradReba mivaqcioT garemomcvel samyaros. Cven
vTxoveT auditorias da socialuri qselis momxmareblebs,
TqvenTvis kiTxvebi daesvaT. uamravi kiTxva dagrovda. magaliTad, erT-eerTi ase JRers: roca
Tqven akvirdebiT garemos filosofosis TvaliT, rogor
fiqrobT, klimati sagrZnoblad
Seicvala?
_ adamianTa modgma, SesaZloa, 100 000 wlisa iyos da
is axla gadis Tavisi istoriis
unikalur periods. es modgma
dRes iseT mdgomareobaSia, rom
man unda iCqaros, mas uwevs gadawyvetilebis miReba Caataros
Tu ara eqsperimenti maRalganviTarebuli cxovreba gaagrZelos Tu gaanadguros. mecnierTa umravlesoba miiCnevs, rom
bunebriv resursebs unda gavufrTxildeT, rom Cvens momavlebs
Rirseuli cxovrebis perspeqtiva hqondeT. magram Cveni sazogadoebis
institucionaluri
struqturebi cdiloben bolo
wveTamde amowuron maragi. klimatis cvlilebis TvalsazrisiT, kacobriobis momavali katastrofulia da Cven ufskrulisken mivemarTebiT.
_ rac Seexeba birTvul oms.
didi xani ar aris, rac miaRwies SeTanxmebas iranis programasTan dakavSirebiT. gaZlevT
Tu ara imedis Tundac naperwkals is, rom dedamiwa SeiZleba potenciurad usafrTxo adgilad iqces?
_ me momxre var iranTan molaparakebebis, Tumca arsebiTad
mainc Secdomebs uSveben. arsebobs ori saxelmwifo, romlebic angariSgasawevia axlo aRmosavleTSi mudmivi agresiis,
Zaladobis, teroristuli aqtebis da ukanono moqmedebebis
kuTxiT. orive maTgans birTvuli iaraRis uzarmazari arsena-
kampania, romelSic amerikuli
xelmZRvaneloba aris eWvmitanili. es kampania gadasxvaferebuli teroria. roca bombaven, magaliTad, sofels iemenSi da
klaven adamians, romelsac araferi dauSavebia, rogor ggoniaT, isini ar zRaven amisTvis?
_ Tqven aSS-ss teroristul
saxelmwifos uwodebT. rogor
SeafasebT evropas?
_ saintereso SekiTxvaa.
ramdenime xnis win kvleva Catarda Cemi fondis `Ria sazogadoebis~ iniciativiT, romelmac cxadhyo, rom wamebis yvelaze mZime forma aris patimarTa
noam xomski:
`samyaro
ufskrulisken
mieqaneba~
li aqvs. magram amaze aravin saubrobs.
_ romel qveynebs gulisxmobT?
_ aSS-sa da israels. eseni
ori mTavari birTvuli saxelmwifoebia msoflioSi. amitomacaa sazogadoebriv gamokiTxvebSi, romelsac aSS-is sociologiuri samsaxurebi awarmoeben,
gamokiTxulTa
umravlesoba
aSS-s miiCnevs msoflioSi yvelaze saSiS Zalad. arc erTi
sxva saxelmwifo ar Seedreba
mas am kuTxiT.
_ Tqven pativs ar scemT
aSS-iis prezidents barak obamas.
is cdilobs Seamciros birTvuli omis safrTxe. es ar gaZlevT mis mimarT sxvagvarad
fiqris saSualebas?
_ sinamdvileSi ise ar aris,
rogorc Tqven fiqrobT. barak
obamam moawera xeli birTvuli
iaraRis modernizaciis programas aSS-Si da trilioni dolaric gamoyo amisTvis. es ki niSnavs, rom afarToebs birTvuli
sistemebis warmoebas. es aris
erT-erTi mizezi, ris gamoc
TandaTan cxadi xdeba bolo Jamis dro da saaTi, razec mecnierebi werdnen Jurnal-gazeTebSi, sul axlaxan, gasul kviras, sul ori wuTiRaa darCenili SuaRamemdeo. SuaRame, es
aris dasasruli. axla saaTi
Ramis 3 saaTs aCvenebs, rac ufro mokle droa dasasrulamde.
bolo 30 wlis ganmavlobaSi
reiganis periodze ufro mZime
viTarebaa. maSinac didi iyo
omis saSiSroeba.
_ kidev erTi SekiTxva am
Temaze. kvlav socialuri qselebidan. gjeraT Tu ara, rom
aSS-ii odesme moawers xels
iseT xelSekrulebas, romelic
israelisTvis saziano iqneba?
_ aSS-i mudmivad dgams nabijebs, romlebic israelisTvis
aris saSiSi. kerZod, israelis
politikis mxardaWera aris
amis magaliTi. bolo 40 weliwadia yvelaze did safrTxes
israelisTvis TviT misi politika warmoadgens. Tu ukan davbrundebiT 40 wliT, davuSvaT,
16 saerTo gazeTi
#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
ciurixis genealogiuri
centris sensaciuri daskvna:
tutanhamoni da sxva egvipteli
faraonebi kolxebi iyvnen?!
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi
ix. `saerTo gazeTi~ #8-1
19
mkiTxvelis
gamoxmaureba
`im dadastrurebuli faqtebisa Tu mosazrebaTa nakrebi, rasac Tqven beWdavT, absoluturad
misaRebia yvela, amgvar sakiTxebSi met-naklebad gaTviTcnobierebuli mkiTxvelisTvis. me minda
mxolod mciredi Sevmato Tqven
masalas rogorc qarelSi mcxovrebma TviTmxilvelma.
upirvelesad, vis da rac unda, is sarCuli daudos _ msoflio civilizacia marTlac Zveli kolxeTidan iwyeba! maias tomi kolxeTidan (saqarTvelodan)
aris amerikis kontinentze gadasuli! ras niSnavs m-aia? _ `aia~
kodirebulia amiranisgan... adamis
saflavic iq aris, sadac miniSnebaa, xaSuri-xaragaulis mTis
qveS, igive lixis qedi, suramis
qedi, geTsimaniis qedi, amiranis
qedi. `surami~ kodirebuli sityvaa, romlis gasaRebi `amirania.~
msoflioSi adamianebis ganTesva
moxda kolxeTidan (saqarTvelodan). qarTuli kodirebuli enaa.
sityvebSi marcvlebi: `ali~,
`don~, `ami~, `oni~ _ gasaRebs
Seicavs. amaze sasuliero pirebTan rom viwyeb saubars, garbian,
magram aris ori episkoposi, romelic yuradRebiT mismens. am
SemTxvevaSi bibliur doneebzea
sasaubro da yvelaferi erTad
Tavs iyris aq, saqarTveloSi, sadac RmerTis adgilia _ fsalmunebSi Zalian kargadaa miniSnebuli yvelaferi.
amaswinaT, erT-erT ugvano
SouSi (`sxva rakursi~ _ g.C)
profesiiT fizikosi sasuliero
piri iyo miwveuli da saubari
aramiwier civilizacias exeboda.
mRvdelma `amo-s~ TviTmxilvelebs erT momentSi `dautatana~
_ iqneb Cvenc gvinaxavs rameo?!
hoda, Tu ginaxavT da raime faseul informacias flobT, vis unaxavT? amden malva-parvaSi mTlad
gaafarCakes saqarTvelos namdvili istoria, misi mistiuri arsi, misi namdvili daniSnuleba
dedamiwaze...
axla rasac vityvi, Zalian
bevrisTvis absoluturad gaugebari iqneba, magram vinc odnav mainc Caxedulia warsulis maZiebel da mis damdgen mecnierebebSi da cotaodeni ezoTerikisac
esmis, axali da ucnauri araferi
iqneba. mas Semdeg, rac msoflio
masStabiT jer Zalze viwro da
erT wreSi gaJona informaciam
rom saqarTveloSi raRac `kosmiuri zeganZi moipoveboda~, Semd-
gom ki, ukve wre gafarTovda
garkveuli ordenebis saxiT, mteri da mtrad mosuli moyvare ar
daelia saqarTvelos. saqme imaSi
gaxlavT, rom is, vinc miiswrafvis msoflio batonobisken, am
adgilis gareSe verafers miaRwevs. maTi gegmaa axali adamianis Seqna. am gegmis umTavresi nawilia, rom Cven, konkretulad
qarTvelebs, rogorc am adgilis
mflobelebs, dagvikargon (gagviyalbon) istoria, ena, sarwmunoeba, erovneba, dagvikargon genetikuri mexsiereba da upirvelesad ki ena – es araa Sefaruli
brZola, pirdapir gvebrZvian da
vai, mas, vinc amas ver xedavs!
sinis TargmanSi ufali or
mimarTvas `TqvenobiT~ ambobs, mesames ki, `SenobiT~, es mesame
aris `naTesavi kacTasa~, anu am
adgilis macxovreblebisadmi _
qarTvelebi, Sinaurebi, yvela
sxva ucxoa, romlebic ukve ganTesilebi arian. `me Tavi davimdable da Sen aRgamaRle~... me
imisTvis movedi, rom Seni mcneba, romelic SenTvisaa dawerili,
aravin miitacoso – amisTvis ecva qriste jvars, CvenTvis, qarTvelebisTvis, TavisianebisTvis,
maTTvis, visac SenobiT mimarTavs.
mama RmerTi, Ze RmerTi da
suliwminda momdinareobs qristes gaCenidan, magram manamde
RmerTs erqva `amirani~ _ daimala es saxeli, romelsac `RmerTTa RmerTi~ RmerTi hqvia aRmosavleT saqarTveloSi, dasavleTSi hqvia dedamiwis RvTaeba. amirani aris erTaderTi cocxali
RmerTi da man Seqmna adami _ amas
ambobs maTe 16;16 `amirani~ unda
damaluliyo garkveul dromde.
lazarem gaiRviZa ukve...
ratom iCqmaleba movlena,
rom amoucnobi cecxlis gadmosvla xdeba saqarTveloSi, RmerTis mTaze? _ qarelidan Cans.
imave adgilze oTxiv mxares mimavali Rrublebia _ aseT rames
sadme vinme wawydomia? Rame, rodesac naTeli, varskvlavebiani ca
aris pirdapir isaxeba xe, romelic Semoragulia varskvlavebiT
_ es iseTi saidumloa, rac saqarTvelos garda arsadaa da ar
weren amaze. es igivea rac `ali~,
`doni~, `sioni~ da a.S aqedan ganTesilma xalxma waiRo es saxelebi... germanuli _ ain, cvain,
drain (erTi, ori, sami), `ain~
(`ani~) igive suliwminda, `cvani~ (`svani~) da `don-i~ _ `d~
RmerTis adgili (Tu SegimCneviaT, magaliTad, sceticxovelSi
saflavis qvebze, kuTxeSi, yvelgan Zveli qarTuli `d~ aris gamosaxuli) da `r~ _ qristes mimaniSnebeli simbolo _ es aTaswleulebis winandelia, magram
enam brwyinvaled Semoinaxa...
ratom mokvda lazare, es
vrceli da rTuli Temaa, imitom
rom `daekargeba maT brZenTa sibrZne da gonierTa goniereba~ _
qarTvelebma dakarges yvelaferi,
wylulisgan gamomdinare miiZines
da dRemde asea... mTeli msoflio
saqarTvelodan imarTeboda, magram rodesac wyevla iwyebs moqmedebas, ecema siZliere ai, aq,
kolxeTis samefoze da veRar
marTavs. `qanaani~ _ igive megrelebisa da svanebis dasaxleba
iyo, `qani~ da `ani~... daikarga
sibrZne, TiTqos mokvda Zaladakarguli lazare...
RmerTis Zala sityvaSia,
`pirvelad iyo sityva~. sityva
aris enis Semadgeneli _ RmerTis
ena qarTuli enaa, anu am xalxis
sityvas hqonda iseTi Zala, rom
bunebrivi movlenebis gamowveva
SeeZloT. wyevlis Semdeg daikarga es Zala da Sesabamisad codnac...
biblia ar aris moTxroba.
marTalia, is gadawerilia dakarguli (Tu moparuli?) `efuTi-
sicocxlis xe. karxemiSi
lazuri sicocxlis xe
dan~, magram yvela SemTxvevaSi
biblia daSifruli faqtebia.
`lazares~ sikvdilidan aRsadgenad lazare Setanili iqna saxarebaSi, or-samjeraa naxsenebi
lukas saxarebaSi. 10 saukunis
mere wers ioane zosime rom lazare aris RmerTis ena, es ena
aris qarTuli da es Tqva RmerTma... mokled rom vTqvaT, codna
dakargulia da mere weren ebraelebi...
SexedeT, erovneba amogviSales, enas pirdapir rom ver miadgnen, (ki miadgnen, magram ver
gaitanes) eSmakurad dauwyes gadagvareba, magram cota rom ga-
anxi
dagvaWarbeben viRacebi, imasac
amogviSlian. sanacvlod, sxvebi
swavloben qarTuli enas radgan
frTxiloben, ar dakargon is
codna, romlid gagebac mxolod
qarTuladaa SesaZlebeli.~
egvipturi ieroglifi
`anx~ da svanuri `ang~
qarTveli mkvlevarebi ise
arian daTrgunvilebi uxilavi
wnexisgan, pirdapir ver daurqmeviaT saxeli imisTvis, rac xelisgulze devs cxadad, mxolod mokrZalebul varaudebs gamoTqvamen.
ratom ar unda iyviros qarTvelma, roca mas uxsovari droidan
aqvs svanur saweso ritualebSi
erT-erTi umTavresi elementi
`ang-i~ aqvs da absoluturad misi sworferia egvipturi ieroglifi `anx-i~? (nax. 2) elementarulad, saintereso mainc unda
iyos imis garkveva, ra kavSirSia
erTmaneTisgan absoluturad yovelmxriv daSorebuli qveyana egvipturi civilizacia da saqarTvelos erT-erTi kuTxe, svaneTi
da svanuri agraruli dResaswaulebi `aRba-laRrali~ da `limuryvamali~ (oqros nakeTobebi saqarTvelodan gahqondaT egvipteSi
Tu ara, es calke sakiTxia da
amis Sesaxeb vTqviT kidec).
orive svanuri dResaswaulis
mTavari saweso moqmedeba koSkis
agebaa. koSkis SuaSi, maRal xeze,
romelsac svanurad `ang-i~ hqvia,
xelmandiliani droSaa aRmarTuli, Tumca zogjer damagrebulia
adamianis gamosaxulebac `lamaria~, romelsac xelSi daSna
ukavia. win xis falosi aqvs Camokidebuli, xolo saxis adgilze saceri ukeTia. aRniSnuli ri-
tualis centraliri elementi,
`ang-i~, rogorc sicocxlis xe
misteriuli daniSnulebiT, formiT da TviT saxeliTac, Zalian
Camohgavs III dinastiis egviptis
saritualo nivTs `anx-s~, romelic dRemde mravali qveynis
mkvlevarTa didi dainteresebis
sagania. anxi, romelic aseve iwodeba `kruqs ansat-ed~, anu tarian jvrad, Zvel egvipteSi yvelaze gavrcelebuli simboloa da
III dinastiidan moyolebuli xSirad aris arqeologiur masalebSi, uamravi liTonis, Tixisa da
xis anxia napovni. maTi didi nawili amuletia, romelsac unda
angi
uzrunveleyo mflobelis sicocxlis gaxangrZliveba, xolo
gardacvalebis Semdeg iqauri sicocxle. anxi metwilad RmerTebsa da faraonebs ukaviaT, aseve
xSirad aris egvipturi akldamebis, maT Soris tut-anx-amonis
(TuT-ang-amoni) akldamis warwerebSi. xSirad, saritualo WurWelsac anxis forma hqonda da
igive formas imeorebda sistra,
malamos kovzi da sarke. aRsaniSnavia, rom Sua saukuneebidan moyolebuli, sarkesac anxs uwodebdnen, radgan Tvlidnen, rom
sicocxle da sikvdili erTmaneTs ireklaven.
vinaidan egviptis mosaxleobis umetesoba wera-kiTxvis ucodinari iyo, es niSani maTTvis gasagebi versiiT _ sandlis Rvedebi _ gamoisaxeboda. mdabioTa mier gakeTebul WurWelze xSirad
iyo anxis gamosaxuleba. igi gahyva yvela dinastias da koptur
qristianul eklesiaSic ki, rogorc jvarcma, mistikuri Zalis
mqone simbolos mniSvneloba SeinarCuna.
anxis savaraudo funqcia rTuli seqsualuri simbolizmidan
ubralo sandlamde meryeobs. radgan anxi sicocxlis simboloa,
mravagvari gamovlinebac aqvs. egviptur miTologiaSi, rodesac
anxi anubiss ukavia, micvalebulTa sicocxles icavs; seqmeTis,
uarisa da hapis xelSi _ macocxlebel wyalTan kavSirSia; TvTaeba amenis xelSi _ sicocxlis
STabervas emsaxureba... anxi nilosis arxis kedelzec iyo gamosaxuli, rogorc misi dinebis adamianTa sasikeTod warmmarTvelis.
(gagrZeleba iqneba)
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cnobil
li pol
lit
tol
logis, sazogado moRvawis, yofil
li Jurnal
list
tisa da mwerl
lis jul
lieterviu sami
to kiezas es int
wl
lis win aris Caweril
li, magram misi mosazrebebi dResac
aqt
tual
luria, prognozebi ki _
ut
tyuari.
bolo sami saukunis
istoria dasasruls
uaxlovdeba, fulis
civilizacia midis
_ axla Cven vimyofebiT
gardamaval periodSi, romlis
precedenti istoriaSi ar yofila. igi SeiZleboda dawyebuliyo jer kidev am saukunis
dasawyisSi, magram amerikis SeerTebulma
Statebma
2001
wlis 11 seqtembris movlenebiT
krizisi 7 wliT gadaavada. gadaavada, magram Tavidan ver
aicila _ 2008-Si mainc dadga.
visTvis iqneba es epoqa xelsayreli, rTuli saTqmelia, magram erTi ram naTelia _ bolo
sami saukunis istoria dasasruls uaxlovdeba. dResdReobiT isic naTelia, rom SeuZlebelia ganviTareba resursebis
Caketili sistemis SigniT _
msofliom ganviTarebis sazRvrebs miaRwia. yvela tyuis, vinc
ambobs, rom wina sistema SenarCundeba. qvanaxSiri, navTobi,
uranic ki _ planetis yvela
resursi amowurulia da sul
mokle xanSi is sabolood amoiwureba. yvelaferi Seicvleba
_ Cveni garemomcveli samyaro,
is, rasac miveCvieT. fulis civilizacia amowuravs Tavs da
wava.
_ naadrevad xom ar marxavT
mas? Tanamedrove kritikosebi
xom ar azviadeben krizisis
masStabebs?
_ araviTar SemTxvevaSi. es
marTlac globaluri krizisia,
maT Soris _ energetikulic.
wyalsac ki imaze mets movixmarT, vidre bunebas SeuZlia
rom mogvces. ra moxdeba Semdgomi aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi,
roca 300 milion adamians am
resursis naklebobis problema
gauCndeba? narCenebis struqturac iseTia, gadamuSavebas
azri ekargeba. Cven SevcvaleT
TviTon bunebis gezi.
_ bevri laparakobs ekologiaze. mTavrobebi uamrav Tanxas
xarjaven, mosaxleoba ama Tu im
partiis ekologiur mxars aZlevs xmas...
_ unda gaviazroT, rom adrindeli demokratia suls Rafavs. evropaSi mosaxleobis naxevari aRar dadis arCevnebze _
da ara imitom, rom apolitikuria. xalxs aklia misi interesebis warmomadgenloba xelisuflebaSi. parlamentebis, adgilobrivi sabWoebis winaaRmdegi rodi var. Cemi azriT, unda Seiqmnas warmomadgenlobebis axali sistema, axali partiebi da moZraobebi. da moZraoba qvemodan unda daiwyos.
_ da ra unda iyos maTi devizi?
_ TviTSezRudva. unda daviwyoT Cveni Tavis SezRudva,
TviTonve SevicvaloT da Cveni
cxovrebis wesic SevcvaloT.
Cven mxolod
bazrisTvis vcxovrobT
_ Tqveni varaudiT, msoflioSi sakmarisi xalxi mogrovde-
rivi informaciis saSualebebis sistema xalxis
fundamenturi uflebaa da
ar SeiZleba misi privatizacia. isini saxelmwifosa da xalxs unda daubrundes. ra xdeba mTels
msoflioSi _ amis gageba
telearxebis monawileobis gareSe SeuZlebelia,
ris sanacvlodac televizia cdilobs dagviyolios, viyidoT manqana an
sxva raime nivTi. aseve
darwmunebuli var, rom
_ ra Tqma unda. ufro metic
_ miliardma Cinelma xorcis
Wama da rZis sma iseve rom daiwyon, rogorc Cven, aTi wlis
Semdeg dedamiwaze Cveni adgili
aRar darCeba. da roca adgili
aRar iqneba, es ras niSnavs?
jer kidev 1998 wels amerikis
SeerTebul StatebSi gamoqveynda dokumenti «Project for the
new American century». masSi winaswarmetyvelurad weria, rom
2017 wels amerikis usafrTxoebas yvelaze metad CineTi daemuqreba. yvelaferi marTldeba.
julieto kieza:
urebma aRiares, rom multikulturalizmis politika Caflavda.
_ ar mjera multukulturalizmis Cavardnis. `islamuri
fundamentalizmis safrTxe~ _
es amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis gamogonilia da misi aTvlis wertili 2011 wlis 11
seqtemberia. Cven TviTon SevqmeniT idea eqsportis demokratiis Sesaxeb. erayi da avRaneTi am
sqemis sicocxlisunarianobas
amtkicebs. aseve mcdaria dasavleTis mosazreba, rom yvela
xalxma da qveynebma igive gza
unda gaiaron, rac maT ganvles.
msoflios cxra adamiani,
cxra respeqtabeluri
damnaSave marTavs
ba, romlebic TavianTi keTili
nebiT mzad iqnebian, Tavi SeizRudon? msoflioSi, romlis
didi nawili elementarulad
ver nayrdeba?
_ mSier xalxze ar vlaparakob. isinic ki, visac SeuZlia
TviTSezRudva, amaze arc ki
fiqroben. imitom, rom CveniT
manipulireben, gvasuleleben!
adamianebi yidvis instrumentebad aqcies. absoluturi umravlesobis tvini kontroldeba. roca vSromobT, roca visvenebT
_ bazrisTvis vcxovrobT. swored bazari
gvkarnaxobs Cvens moqmedebebs. Cven ar varT
Tavisufali adamianebi.
Jurnalistebis valia,
amis Sesaxeb mosaxleobas acnobon, magram
dumils amjobineben.
televiziis
meSveobiT, 24
saaTis ganmavlobaSi gveubnebian, rom
unda viyidoT
nivTebi, rom
Cveni faseulobebis skala _ es aris Cveni myidvelobiTi unari. realurad, Tanamedrove televiziaSi uSualod
informacia 8 procents ar aRemateba. sxva danarCeni _ reklama da garTobaa. da adamians
swored es 92 procenti ayalibebs.
_ es bunebrivic aris, radgan televizia reklamis xarjze arsebobs. vinRa Seinaxavs
televiziebs, Tu isini aRarafers gayidian? Tqven ras gvTavazobT?
_ Tavdapirvelad, masobrivi
informaciis saSualebebis nacionalizacias movaxdendi. 50
wlis win adamianSi pirovnebis
Camoyalibebas
ganapirobebda
ojaxi, skola, xandaxan _ eklesia. axla axalgazrdebis azrovnebis 90 procents televizia ayalibebs. igi gaxda yvelaze mniSvnelovani kulturuli
struqtura mTeli msoflios
masStabiT, amerikidan indoeTisa da CineTis CaTvliT. masob-
aucilebelia, fuls rom uSvebs im bankebis nacionalizacia, radgan Cven fulis kontrols vkargavT.
_ vin `Cven~?
_ saxelmwifo, saxelmwifos moqalaqeebi. `niu-iork taimsma~ pirvel gverdze gamoaqveyna werili imis Sesaxeb, rom
uol-stritze mdebare erT-erT
restoranSi, yovelTviurad ikribebian msoflios cxra bankis
xelmZRvanelebi. es bankebia: `goldman saqsi~,
UBS, `amerikis banki~,
`doiCe banki~ da misTanani. yovelTviurad, es
cxra kaci iRebs gadawyvetilebebs, romlebic
eqvs miliard adamians exeba:
ramdeni unda iyos umuSevrobis
procenti msoflioSi, ramdeni
adamiani mokvdeba SimSilobiT,
ramdeni mTavroba unda Camoagdon, ramden ministrs moisyidian da a.S. eseni respeqtabeluri damnaSaveebi arian da nebismier msoflio politikur liderze gavlenianebic. maT xelSia realuri Zalaufleba _
fulis Zalaufleba.
aSS _ kargad
SeiaraRebuli
bankroti
_ dRes aranairi safuZveli
ar gagvaCnia vifiqroT, rom
uaxloes momavalSi warmoebis
zrda da moxmareba Sewydeba...
_ Tqvenc eTanxmebiT Teziss,
rom dedamiwas yvelaze didi
safrTxe CineTisgan emuqreba?
_ ara, safrTxis yvelaze
didi wyaro niu-iorki, uolstriti da amerikis SeerTebuli Statebia. dRes dolari
mkvdaria, amerika – gabankrotebuli, Tanac kargad SeiaraRebuli bankroti. sxvaTa Soris,
saberZneTsa da irlandiaze
ekonomikuri Seteva mxolod
imisTvis aris provocirebuli, rom Seamciros
evropuli valutisa da
mTlianad evropis suve-
reniteti. dResdReobiT xom evro ufro Zlieria, vidre dolari _ Tundac imitom, rom
evrokavSiris vali ufro naklebia, vidre amerikisa. amitomac vfiqrob, rom evro ar gaqreba.
evropa, rogorc
politikuri da
kulturuli fenomeni,
kvlavac iarsebebs
_ evropasac aqvs bevri susti wertili. mosaxleoba berdeba, xelisufleba iZulebulia
Seiyvanos migrantebi, maT ki,
gansakuTrebiT muslimanebs, ar
surT asimilacia, daZabuloba
Zlierdeba... safrangeTisa da
germaniis saxelmwifoebis meTa-
_ islamuri samyaro erT
saukuneSi cxovrobs, Cven _
sxva epoqaSi. gana es maTi bralia? ubralod, droisa da situaciis grZnobaa sruliad gansxvavebuli. amasTan, Cven SevqmeniT globalizacia, Cven wavarTviT resursebi.
_ dResdReobiT aSkaraa,
rom evropas obieqturad 20
milioni migranti sWirdeba,
magram maTi miReba ar SeuZlia.
sabolood, isini mainc modian
ise, rom normalurad cxovrebis aranairi SesaZlebloba ar
gaaCniaT. unda SevignoT, rom
globalizacia _ es aris
xalxis moZraoba, rac
niSnavs kulturis moZraobasac.
_ Tqven ar iziarebT
im saSiSroebas, rom evropa migrantebis nakadSi
gaiTqvifeba?
_ Cemi azriT, evropa,
rogorc politikuri da
kulturuli fenomeni,
momavalSic
iarsebebs.
kontinentze mimdinare movlenebi, rasakvirvelia, Zalze
rTulia. aqamde msoflioSi
ar yofila precedenti, rom
sami aTeuli qveyana mSvidobiani gziT gaerTianebuliyo.
Tanac, dRes evrokavSiris
erTi naxevari `evropulia~,
meore naxevari ki _ `amerikuli~ (igulisxmeba dasavcleT da aRmosavleT evropa).
regionis axlandeli krizisi
yvelaze rTulia mis istoriaSi.
sxvaTa Soris, ruseTs SeuZlia didi roli iTamaSos evropaSi. ufro metic, aucilebelia am ori Zalis Zalisxmevis
gaerTianeba, interesebis integracia. evropa dRes aravis
emuqreba. ruseTic veravis daemuqreba, roca resursebis deficiti gaCndeba _ Tundac imitom, rom mas yvelanairi resursi qveynis SigniT aqvs. evropa da ruseTi SeZlebdnen
mTel msoflioSi damamSvideblis roli Seasrulon. jerjerobiT ki, yvelas `damSvidebas~
amerika cdilobs.
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#20 (332), 3.VI, 2015 w.
`Cems satkivars 8 welia
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am sityvebis avtors mariam
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_ qalbatono mariam, axla
ras apirebT?
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momeca Tu ara, vuTxari, normalur qveyanaSi rom mecxovra,
Cemi mSobliuri saxlis unaxaobisTvis, albaT, moralur za-
nis dasakmayofileblad da ase
gamodis, rom Cemi mamapapiseuli saxl-kari memkvidreobiT
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Cemi
mSoblebis
kuTvnili
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rals aminazRaurebdnen-meTqi;
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_ rogoria sisxlissamar Tlebrivi
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sazRvargareT Cveni moqalaqee bis mier an maT mimarT Cadenili danaSaulisaTvis?
—TqvenTvis sainterseso
sakiTxs aregulirebs saqarTvelos ss kodeqsis me-5 muxli. konkretulad:
muxli 5. sisxlis-samarTlebrivi pasuxismgebloba sazRvargareT Cadenili danaSaulisaTvis
1. saqarTvelos moqalaqes,
agreTve saqarTveloSi mudmivad mcxovreb moqalaqeobis
armqone pirs, romlebmac sazRvargareT Caidines am kodeqsiT gaTvaliswinebuli iseTi
qmedeba, romelic danaSaulad
iTvleba im saxelmwifos kanonmdeblobiT, sadac is Cadenilia, sisxlis-samarTlebrivi
pasuxismgebloba daekisrebaT
am kodeqsiT.
2. saqarTvelos moqalaqes,
agreTve saqarTveloSi mudmivad mcxovreb moqalaqeobis
armqone
pirs,
romlebmac
sazRvargareT Caidines am kodeqsiT gaTvaliswinebuli iseTi qmedeba, romelic danaSaulad ar iTvleba im saxelmwifos kanonmdeblobiT, sadac is
Cadenilia, sisxlis-samarTlebrivi pasuxismgebloba daekisrebaT am kodeqsiT, Tu es
aris saqarTvelos interesebis
winaaRmdeg mimarTuli mZime an
gansakuTrebiT mZime danaSauli anda Tu sisxlis-samarTlebrivi pasuxismgebloba am
danaSaulisaTvis gaTvaliswinebulia saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso xelSekrulebiT.
3. sazRvargareT danaSaulis Camden ucxo qveynis moqalaqes, agreTve moqalaqeobis
armqone pirs, romlebic mudmivad ar cxovroben saqarTveloSi, sisxlis-samarTlebrivi
pasuxismgebloba daekisrebaT
* * *
_ Tu pirma nebayoflobiT
aiRo xeli danaSaulis Cadena ze, daekisreba Tu ara mas sis xlissamarTlebrivi pasuxismgebloba?
_ TqvenTvis sainterseso
sakiTxs aregulirebs saqarTvelos ss kodeqsis 21-e muxli. konkretulad:
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sabolood aiRo xeli.
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danaSauls warmoadgens.
3. danaSaulis organizators, wamqezebelsa da damxmares ar daekisrebaT sisxlissamarTlebrivi pasuxismgebloba, Tu maT gadaarwmunes amsrulebeli, droulad Seatyobines xelisuflebis organos
an sxvagvarad SeuSales xeli
amsrulebels an sxva Tanamonawiles da amiT ar misces danaSaulis damTavrebis SesaZlebloba. damxmares agreTve
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man amsruleblis mier danaSaulis dawyebamde uari Tqva
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danaSaulis
damTavrebamde
ukan daibruna danaSaulis Casadenad gadacemuli iaraRi an
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4. Tu organizatorma, wamqezebelma da fsiqikurma damxmarem TavianTi moqmedebiT ver
SeZles Tavidan aecilebinaT
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yvavebiviT Cxavian.
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astrologiuri
prognozi
verZi _Tqvens cxovrebaSi sasikeTo cvlilebebia mosalodneli.
pirad cxovrebaSi harmoniuli situacia daisadgurebs. geliT romantikuli
Tavgadasavlebi.
kuro _ TqvenTvis warmatebuli
periodi dadga. pirad cxovrebaSi
pozitiuri cvlilebebia mosalodneli. Tavs iRblian Seyvarebulad
igrZnobT. karieraSi mniSvnelovani winsvla
geliT. am periodSi dagegmili mivlineba
warmatebuli iqneba.
tyupebi _ gamoiCineT iniciativa
rig SemTxvevaSi agresiulobac,
raTa sasurvel Sedegs miaRwioT.
sifrTxile gmarTebT kolegebTan da mezoblebTan urTierTobisas. finansuri operaciebidan did mogebas miiRebT.
kirCxibi _ gamoiCineT maqsimaluri Sromisunarianoba, raTa sasurvel Sedegs miaRwioT. dro gamonaxeT megobrebisTvis. maTgan miRebuli
energia mniSvnelovan stimuls mogcemT. biznes-o
operaciebSi warmateba geliT, rasac
materialuri mdgomareobis gaumjobeseba
mohyveba. geliT sasiamovno informaciebi.
lomi _ xelmZRvanelobasTan da
saqmian partniorebTan urTierToba
karieraSi mniSvnelovan winsvlas
ganapirobebs. iyaviT maqsimalurad saqmiani,
raTa cxovrebis es saukeTeso periodi xelidan ar gauSvaT.
qalwuli _ sifrTxile gmarTebT kolegebTan da mezoblebTan
urTierTobisas. warmateba geliT
finansur operaciebSi. am periodSi dagegmili xangrZlivi mivlineba TqvenTvis sasurveli SedegiT dasruldeba.
saswori _ pirad cxovrebaSi
mciredi imedgacrueba geliT. Tavi
xelSi aiyvaneT, raTa depresiaSi
ar CavardeT. warmateba geliT finansur
operaciebSi. erideT alkoholsa da konfliqtur situaciebs.
morieli _ es periodi saerTo
jamSi, pozitiuri movlenebiT xasiaTdeba. gamoiCineT iniciativa,
raTa sasurvel Sedegs miaRwioT. geliT
sasiyvarulo urTierTobebSi warmateba. megobrebis daxmarebiT bevr problemas moagvarebT.
mSvildosani _ xelmZRvanelobasTan urTierToba Tqvens karieraze dadebiTad imoqmedebs, rasac
SesaZloa dawinaurebac mohyves. kargi iqneba, Tu profilaqtikur mkurnalobas CaitarebT. pirad cxovrebaSi harmoniuli situacia SenarCundeba.
Txis rqa _ advilad nuravis
endobiT. sifrTxile gmarTebT megobrebTan urTierTobisas. xelmZRvanelobasTan urTierToba TqvenTvis
sasurveli SedegiT dasruldeba. es periodi piradi cxovrebis mowesrigebas dauTmeT.
merwyuli _ Tqvens cxovrebaSi
warmatebuli periodi dadga. gamoiCineT maqsimaluri Sromisunarianoba, raTa mniSvnelovan warmatebas miaRwioT. geliT romantikuli Tavgadasavlebi da perspeqtiuli winadadebebi. Tavs
iRblian Seyvarebulad igrZnobT.
Tevzebi _ rTul situaciebSi
daxmarebisaTvis megobrebs mimarTeT, maTTan urTierToba Tqvens
cxovrebaze karg zegavlenas moaxdens. pirad cxovrebaSi sasiamovno cvlilebebi geliT. SesaZloa wveulebaze SexvdeT adamianis, romelic Tqvens cxovrebaSi mniSvnelovan adgils daikavebs. warmateba geliT
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